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If you currently work from home or are hybrid, how much extra would you want p.a. to work from the office 5 days per week ?

248 replies

Cobwebs5 · 17/11/2023 10:57

If you currently work from home or are hybrid, how much extra would you want p.a. to work from the office 5 days per week ?

Just that really.

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Enderunicorn · 17/11/2023 14:47

My current job can't be done remotely.

lechatnoir · 17/11/2023 14:47

Ah ok so wfh FT earn a rather pitiful £28k

Currently job hunting and look for:

Fully remote £30k+
1 day office £34k +
2 days office £38k+ (highly unlikely!)
3+ days - won't even apply

evryevrytime · 17/11/2023 14:52

I would need to be able to afford to live in a family home in London and send my DC to private schools so ... £1m a year would do it.

As I'm only on a very small fraction of that, I will stay put in my lovely market town with good state schools and a bugger of a commute twice a week.

WeAreBorg · 17/11/2023 14:53

Looks like doctors, nurses, teachers, train drivers etc. should all be on approx double what they’re on then according to these calculations

LisaD1 · 17/11/2023 14:57

There’s no amount would get me back into the office m. I’ve worked remotely for almost 10 years, initially I was in the office one or 2 days a week on average. The last year I have a new role and have only ever been to my office when I was interviewed. My contract is permanently home based. I do travel for about a week per quarter for meetings which is no problem but commuting is a no thanks from me.

Womencanlift · 17/11/2023 15:03

Not that much to be honest. I don’t have high commuting costs and I do (most of the time) enjoy being in the office. Commuting time is fine, about 50 minutes door to door and it is a good separation point between work and home. Stick a podcast on and either set myself up for the day or decompress at the end

We have an on-site gym and our team is flexible enough to allow you to go during the day which is what I do at home too - in fact I would probably go to the gym more in the office as it takes me a minute or so to get there from my desk, rather than the 20 minute walk from home

I would be wanting my company to move premises though if they wanted us all back in as not enough seats for that now. The fight for desks can be a real problem and then you end up squatting at a hot desk that isn’t set up correctly

I get that everyone’s circumstances are different but some of these demands seem crazy to me. Fair enough if you get them but in my work you would not be entertained asking for multiple thousands more to come in. And we don’t have an issue with hiring and retaining staff so must be doing something right, even with the 2 day expectation that we have now

allhellcantstopusnow · 17/11/2023 15:22

WeAreBorg · 17/11/2023 14:53

Looks like doctors, nurses, teachers, train drivers etc. should all be on approx double what they’re on then according to these calculations

You're right, but not for the reasons you're trying to make the point about.

TrashedSofa · 17/11/2023 15:53

WeAreBorg · 17/11/2023 14:53

Looks like doctors, nurses, teachers, train drivers etc. should all be on approx double what they’re on then according to these calculations

We likely are going to have to pay them more in the long run to compensate for the lack of flexibility, yes.

SpongeBob2022 · 17/11/2023 15:59

My office is in the town where I live so I didn't have much of a commute even before Covid. I like the hybrid model but if they said I have to go back to office full time I just would.

I wouldn't change jobs for one with an hour commute, or travelling into London unless I was offered silly money (e.g. 5 times my salary), which would never happen.

hettie · 17/11/2023 16:06

It's interesting the mention of Drs and nurses. I am well past the primary school years drop off and wrap around care dance thank god. But as much of my role can't be done remotely when the kids were little I had no option but to work part time. And that was with Flexi hours and DH doing some drop offs too.
It took some negotiating and only really happened because my speciality is tricky to recruit to and they had a full time post open for a while. Good only knows the NHS needs it's qualified staff more than ever and there are things that could be done more remotely but our IT infrastructure (like all the infrastructure) is ancient and not fit for purpose.

Weedoormatnomore · 17/11/2023 16:08

Depends when you applied was the job home working or in the office moved to wfh due to covid etc.
Have they asked you to go back to office ft ?

Username467849865 · 17/11/2023 16:52

WeAreBorg · 17/11/2023 14:53

Looks like doctors, nurses, teachers, train drivers etc. should all be on approx double what they’re on then according to these calculations

Given all of them reach career average earnings of around 50k probably not. I didn't realise until recently just how well paid train driving was!

DewinDwl · 17/11/2023 16:57

TrashedSofa · 17/11/2023 15:53

We likely are going to have to pay them more in the long run to compensate for the lack of flexibility, yes.

I see the othe side of this actually. Any employer looking at this thread should be taking note - workers value flexible working, hybrid working and WFH more highly than money. People would rather earn less and WFH - effectively a pay cut / lower pay.

Bunnycat101 · 17/11/2023 17:08

Im currently looking at taking a £25k pay cut for a remote working job. I probably won’t actually be that much worse off which is crazy.

FlamingoHels · 17/11/2023 17:10

It’s not about the money. If I couldn’t WFH I would quit. Unless they were literally offering me £5 million or something insane

NearlyMonday · 17/11/2023 17:10

No amount of extra money would get me back into the office 5 days per week

WeeSleekitCowrinTimrousBeastie · 17/11/2023 17:13

I live hundreds of miles away from the office so it's completely off the table.

Tbh there's no an amount of money that would lure me not an office 5 days a week even if it was closer.

MRSMTO · 17/11/2023 17:14

I would require an extra £50k to leave the office and WFH!

DilemmaDelilah · 17/11/2023 17:14

At this stage in my life (3 1/2 years to retirement, currently receiving treatment for cancer, mortgage paid so will still have a home although might have to cut back on a lot of things) I would rather leave work than go in 5 days a week.
Luckily I won't ever have to. We have 18 hot desks for 40 people and other people actually like going into the office. Also I have great managers, so as long as I can do what I need to do while working from home I don't need to go in.

Dixiechickonhols · 17/11/2023 17:16

I don’t think I would cope with 5 days with 45 minute drive each way. If I had to work in office I’d look at dropping back to 4 days or even 3. Impact on my health and lifestyle would be massive - I’m peri menopausal. Sleep not great and without time to exercise would have health implications.
I’m in a role that’s virtually impossible to recruit to. We are usually one day in office a week. Unlikely to change.

HollaHolla · 17/11/2023 17:21

I'm currently in the office 2-3 days p.w.
I earn £51k, and it costs me about £7 (driving) or £14 (public transport) per day I'm in. Also, put lunch into that equation.... and £450 a year for my work parking.
Add the 3 hours a day of my time, travelling, then at work per hour, let's say that adds up to £3600 of my time (3 days per week - 48 weeks a year.)
Total of £6210 a year - but I'd want that after deductions; so I'd guess about £10k a year more, to make it worth my while.

itsanopefromme · 17/11/2023 17:23

Cobwebs5 · 17/11/2023 11:27

To those of you saying that there is no amount of money that would make you go to the office 5 days a week, I’m fairly sure for most of you, there is a figure, even if it’s a ridiculously high figure.

I think for lots of us it would be have to be an offer that couldn't be refused. I agree; everybody has a price - and for some it would have to be in the hundreds of thousands, to do it short term so that retirement would come much sooner.

TrashedSofa · 17/11/2023 17:23

DewinDwl · 17/11/2023 16:57

I see the othe side of this actually. Any employer looking at this thread should be taking note - workers value flexible working, hybrid working and WFH more highly than money. People would rather earn less and WFH - effectively a pay cut / lower pay.

It's long been the way, but employers hadn't all clocked it pre March 2020. People would essentially purchase flexibility. Of course, it's easier to get now than it used to be so that makes a difference too.

SingingSands · 17/11/2023 17:34

Well I'm technically hybrid but there are weeks when I'll be in the office five days.

I get paid for my role, not my location or commute.

AnotherCountryMummy · 17/11/2023 17:37

Probably £30k more