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If you currently work from home or are hybrid, how much extra would you want p.a. to work from the office 5 days per week ?

248 replies

Cobwebs5 · 17/11/2023 10:57

If you currently work from home or are hybrid, how much extra would you want p.a. to work from the office 5 days per week ?

Just that really.

OP posts:
Hotchocolate2023 · 17/11/2023 13:08

I just wouldn't. It's not about the money but quality of life.

CesareBorgia · 17/11/2023 13:08

Ultimately, if my employer said I had to, I would do it because I don't want to be out of a job!

If it was voluntary and a money-no-object situation I would ask for a 50% pay rise.

TrashedSofa · 17/11/2023 13:11

CesareBorgia · 17/11/2023 13:08

Ultimately, if my employer said I had to, I would do it because I don't want to be out of a job!

If it was voluntary and a money-no-object situation I would ask for a 50% pay rise.

Would you not look for something else instead?

LoobyDop · 17/11/2023 13:11

More than double, I think. I’ve turned down roles because they were off-puttingly negative about wfh- saying things like four days a week in the office. I also turned down one that was fully remote but 2.5 hours away, because the remote bit wasn’t contractual and there were no guarantees that they wouldn’t change it completely.

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 17/11/2023 13:11

fitzwilliamdarcy · 17/11/2023 12:10

Enough that I could retire right now, which kinda defeats the purpose!

Excellent point, well made

SD1978 · 17/11/2023 13:12

Given there was no decrease to wages when WFH came in, nothing. If it's in the contract I have to, then I have to

CyberCritical · 17/11/2023 13:13

It's not a financial issue for me, I wouldn't take a job now that required office work because it doesn't fit in with my life. It might in a few years,but right now no amount of money could make up for being able to get add at school pick up time and the flexibility it allows for school holidays and sickness days.

QueenOfDuisburg · 17/11/2023 13:13

Another one here who wouldn't do it for any amount. I can basically work full time as well as spend all my time with the kids outside of school. I feel very lucky to have that privilege.

Having said that, I used to like working in an office and once the kids are older I would have no problem going into work. I wouldn't expect a salary increase - I'm on the same salary that was paid to people in my role before WFH/hybrid working became so popular. But I'm lucky as I'm on the edge of a big city so commuting is relatively cheap and fast.

Howdoesitworkagain · 17/11/2023 13:13

Backtoreality1 · 17/11/2023 11:06

If your contract states you need to work in the office then there would be no extra. If your contract is for homeworking and they want you to go in, then they need to renegotiate your contract with you. However, personally if you are fulfilling the same role you should not get paid extra.

I think you’ve completely missed the point. The question is not about technicalities of contracts. It’s about trying to quantify the value that people place on flexibility.

OP, I’d be wanting double what I’m on (currently doing 2 days in office and 3 at home on average).

DailyMailHater · 17/11/2023 13:14

the flexibility and work life balance I have being hybrid is priceless at the moment. Finishing work and being able to take kids to activities rathe than being stuck in car / waiting for delayed train is amazing.

extra time at home in the morning cause no commute has done wonders for my mental health

if I want to take a longer lunch and go for a walk and work on I can without having to factor in train times / what time I will get home.

my 13 year old commented the other day that I am a calmer and more present mum since I have been hybrid.

Gingerbee · 17/11/2023 13:16

I suppose it depends if your signed your contract before Covid and WFH.
Previously, contracts in London had London weighting added to the salary.

TrashedSofa · 17/11/2023 13:17

CyberCritical · 17/11/2023 13:13

It's not a financial issue for me, I wouldn't take a job now that required office work because it doesn't fit in with my life. It might in a few years,but right now no amount of money could make up for being able to get add at school pick up time and the flexibility it allows for school holidays and sickness days.

Same really. I said a million a year after tax, but what would actually happen if I got offered that is I'd stick it for a couple of months to pay off the mortgage and then leave for something more flexible.

guiling · 17/11/2023 13:18

Enough of an increase so i could work 3 days a week for the same money 😅

Pinkitydrinkity0 · 17/11/2023 13:19

I would (and probably will have to) take a significant pay cut in order to guarantee being in the office 5x a week with colleagues. I hate wfh 🙁

kitsuneghost · 17/11/2023 13:20

Surely you wouldn't expect any more
During covid many went the other way and didn't get a pay cut.

Commute time/cost is nothing to do with the employer

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 17/11/2023 13:21

Gingerbee · 17/11/2023 13:16

I suppose it depends if your signed your contract before Covid and WFH.
Previously, contracts in London had London weighting added to the salary.

I have been working almost fully remote since 2013 this isn’t new for everyone.
All my contracts for longer than that have been home based.
Perhaps it is industry and role based - my job doesn’t require being in an office.

goababy · 17/11/2023 13:21

guiling · 17/11/2023 13:18

Enough of an increase so i could work 3 days a week for the same money 😅

This is the best and smartest answer!

meagert · 17/11/2023 13:26

Surely you wouldn't expect any moreDuring covid many went the other way and* didn't get a pay cut*

I took the question to mean when selecting a job, as opposed to expecting an employer to pay more. Most people look at the overall package when selecting a job, potentially willing to accept a lower paying job if they offer more flexibility.

TrashedSofa · 17/11/2023 13:26

kitsuneghost · 17/11/2023 13:20

Surely you wouldn't expect any more
During covid many went the other way and didn't get a pay cut.

Commute time/cost is nothing to do with the employer

Edited

They wish.

It's an employees market now in many sectors, with some exceptions of course for roles and employers that are particularly sought after. People make choices with that in mind, rather than things that happened in 2020. In the same way that I don't expect my food shopping budget now to be the same as it was pre-covid.

What this means, in practical terms, is that some organisations who need people in the office have to either pay more for the privilege or manage without.

Night409 · 17/11/2023 13:29

I personally think the pay would be the same.

The amount you use on electricity WFH would balance out the fuel costs commuting into work.

But I don’t think anyone who WFH or works in an office would be happy doing the opposite.
They would just find another job instead.

If it’s in your contract that you WFH 5 days a week, no one would be happy for their employer to turn around and say you have to go into the office 5 days a week.

This was the issue during lockdown and everyone was kicking off that they had to WFH.

Are you wanting your employees to work in the office?
If so it would depend on what’s in their contract.

The only thing you can do is offer incentives to come into the office (perhaps a bonus payment, pay rise, condensed hours, extra holiday etc) but they can still say no.

EmpressSoleil · 17/11/2023 13:30

I genuinely could earn more by returning to the office as my current role is a lower paid band. But I took it as it was wfh (pre covid). So my post tax etc wages went down by around £600 p/m. I did that by choice. So it would take a lot more than that for me to go back.

I'd want at least triple (cash in my hand) to go back to the office. Which would be on the basis that I didn't do it for more than a year or two. If you were talking about 5 days office right up to retirement, then no, there actually isn't any amount that could make me sign up for that. Because nothing could replace the lost time or impact on my health and wellbeing.

Night409 · 17/11/2023 13:30

guiling · 17/11/2023 13:18

Enough of an increase so i could work 3 days a week for the same money 😅

Lots of places are actually doing 4 day weeks and this is something that’s very appealing to people.

3 days would be even better!

TrashedSofa · 17/11/2023 13:31

meagert · 17/11/2023 13:26

Surely you wouldn't expect any moreDuring covid many went the other way and* didn't get a pay cut*

I took the question to mean when selecting a job, as opposed to expecting an employer to pay more. Most people look at the overall package when selecting a job, potentially willing to accept a lower paying job if they offer more flexibility.

I think it works both ways, with new and existing jobs. The talk of contracts ignores the issue of implied terms anyway, but practically speaking a lot of people are in the position where they know they wouldn't have to just accept their current employer saying right, all back in.

meagert · 17/11/2023 13:31

The amount you use on electricity WFH would balance out the fuel costs commuting into work.

I could have a marijuana farm at home and my commuting costs would still be higher.

Doggymummar · 17/11/2023 13:32

I wouldn't do it for any money. But a new job , I would look to move for say 25k