If you currently work from home or are hybrid, how much extra would you want p.a. to work from the office 5 days per week ?

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If you currently work from home or are hybrid, how much extra would you want p.a. to work from the office 5 days per week ?

Just that really.

There really is no figure. I am disabled and it would impact my life too much to make any extra money worth it.

@TrashedSofa I was wondering about implied terms. When I accepted my role I agreed in writing with HR and my manager a set number of office days, it was informal and I knew it couldn't be guaranteed indefinitely, I wondered if I had a leg to stand on in terms of implied terms. I'm going to try submit it now as a formal request, I've been doing it for 6+ months now so evidence it works well!

I'd need about £9K (after tax) to make it financially viable. £6K a year season ticket for the train + £3K for car parking.

But, realistically, if I was asked to do that I'd just leave my job. I took this job on the agreement it was 1-2 days a week (maximum) in London so a big change of policy like that would just destroy my trust in the organisation and my management chain (as it was all signed off).

I wondered a couple of years back if there might end up being loads of employment tribunal cases on the issue, but I suspect people are just going to other jobs instead.

To be honest, no. I have a disability and my employer is relatively good for disability-awareness; plus I've been there long enough to have accrued long service benefits, so I wouldn't quit for that reason, though I wouldn't be happy to lose hybrid working.

Re: energy costs. Ours are £5-6 a day. My current job is about £9 a day by train, new job £40+. Energy prices would have to go even more batshit to cancel that out 5 days a week (and DH also WFH anyway despite his office being 10 mins walk away so would save me nothing!)

Pretty much my thoughts I think. I could do it short term for an insane amount of money.

I haven't worked 5 days a week in the office since 2008. I would agree with PPs that I wouldn't take a full time office job if at all possible.

I wondered a couple of years back if there might end up being loads of employment tribunal cases on the issue, but I suspect people are just going to other jobs instead.

Sounds like it might be worth me pursuing before jumping ship? (I am civil service and we are being ordered back in 60%).

I expect the civil service unions will probably be trying to address the issue? Though practically speaking I wonder how it'd work anyway, surely in some places there won't actually be room?

A minimum of double my salary to even start thinking about it.

Last month I declined a promotion worth £12k p.a.
The offer was going from fully remote WFH , being asked to go to the office 2-3 times a week.
to accept 5 days in the office I would need to be offered double my current salary so 120k and I would probably still be unhappy about it.

They also offered to cover my commuting expenses and offered flexible hours.

I'd want £1k a month more (after tax) to commute to the office for 5 days a week. When I started to WFH I found I saved massively - no station car parking fee, no fuel, no train fare, no tube fare, no breakfast coffee on the go and no lunch bought. It was a massive eye opener for me. I do sometimes go to the office now, but it also seems such a waste of time I don't usually travel there.

I work from home with a visit to the office once a month. My previous role was fully remote, but I felt a monthly visit was worth a £3,000 pay rise.
I would never consider a role that required 5 days a week at the office. It just isn't necessary in my role and gives me a negative perception of the employer. Plus, it wouldn't fit my personal life with my husband's job and our childcare arrangements. If I could magically find the perfect job that fitted around my life, it would have to triple my current salary to make up for what I'd miss in terms of time with family, convenience and work life balance.

I expect the civil service unions will probably be trying to address the issue? Though practically speaking I wonder how it'd work anyway, surely in some places there won't actually be room?

The unions are grumbling but they're not very effective so not holding my breath (ducks). Yes space is an issue for many areas, they offloaded a bunch of estate post Covid. I don't think my BU can manage 60%, we handed over one of our floors during Covid.

The thing is if I had to work in an office, I wouldn’t be able to get my children from after school club/ nursery in time. As it is I go in once every two weeks and on that day my dh works different hours. But his job won’t allow any more flexibility than that, and he is by far the main earner. So if I do have to return to the office more I would just have to leave my job. I imagine this is the case for many people, and it’ll be mostly women who end up being pushed out the workforce.

So I guess to answer your question, I’d need to be paid three times my current salary so I could become the main earner and dh would then have to change jobs.

You would have to triple my salary. Simply wouldn't work FT in an office again.
I work long hours and the days I do work in the office I 'waste' 1.5 hours driving in and then lose the evening hours I'd naturally flow into. I only open up the laptop again, on office working days, if I have a specific task to get done.

We're a high performing team/put in so many additional hours, it honestly feels like punishment to drag us in for 2 days - I couldn't imagine 5!

I agree that my perception of the employer would be a negative one if they insisted on 5 days office presence. In fact I now perceive companies that insist on office presence as less successful, more desperate and quite often badly managed. I have noticed a trend where even big companies, when in trouble, immediately call staff back to the office. Successful organisations tend to be relaxed about it and allow WFH. I also think they attract higher calibre applicants, as evidenced by this trend, WFH is worth more than £ for people who can afford to choose.

There really is no amount of money that would entice me to an office.

Part of the reason I wfh is disability related. Without wfh I might not be able to work at all. It would be challenging to get a workplace to meet my needs.

To stay where I currently am, I'd need another 10k a year just to cover my expenses. Probably another 100k to persuade me to do it though and then I would still be on the lookout for another role that wouldn't ask me to. That's because on the days I go in currently, I spend nearly 5 hours commuting.
If I could get an equivalent job within half an hour of where I live, I'd probably just go in 5 days if they asked me to anyway, though I'd still prefer not to.

I wfh 9 days a fortnight, earn around £50k.

If my employer said we had to return to office five days I would just leave and get a wfh job. If we are in an imaginary land where nobody can wfh, then I would take early retirement.

The figure that would stop me from taking early retirement would be around £150k

If I were to commute into London it's c.£6k for the train, £1,500 parking, £1k mileage so cost £8,500 and I'd be warning at least another £500pm on my pay packet so about £20k pre-tax more which just ain't going to happen in my industry/at my level.

Like others, I will never now consider a role that requires more than 1 possibly 2 days a week in the office just not worth the stress, time, loss of work/life balance.

The commute is £50 a day if via season ticket. Currently I pay £60 to commute one day per week, so I'm already spending £240 per month.

20 days at £50 would be an extra £760 a month cash, so an extra £12,000 p.a. to cover extra costs, tax & NI.

I was offered my job during lockdown on the basis of 4 days/week wfh. To be honest if they wanted me in London every day, I'd resign. It's just not worth the misery of commuting.

I guess about 10k as that's the step down paycut I am currently looking at because I want a WFH job instead of current job.