Or is this NOT a tee shirt

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A polo shirt is a subset of T-shirt to me.

I get that the presence of a collar denotes something more formal but that's always seemed silly to me. DP owns some of the scruffiest polo shirts I've ever seen.

Do you call it a polo shirt? These sort of t-shirts have only really been called polo shirts since about the 1980s (except, perhaps, for people actually playing polo!) after which the name stuck. Before that the were called t-shirts or t-shirts with a collar.

I wouldn’t think it’s weird to call it a t shirt - I’d count a polo shirt as a sub category of tshirt. A type of T-shirt with a collar. I think of T-shirts as any type of informal ish top made of “T-shirt material” either long or short sleeved with a variety of collars. No idea of actual definitions but that’s how I think of it.

It's technically a polo shirt but calling it a tshirt is OK I think 🤔

No, but a polo-shirt is (slightly) more formal than a collarless T-shirt.

Anyway, that’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying that it’s mot impression that the presence or absence of a collar on a garment seems a little more significant to Americans.

In the 80s we called them aertex shirts!
Now they are polo shirts.
They are sort of t-shirts in that they are the shape of a letter T! I thought that's where t-shirt came from? But now I'm doubting myself??

That’s very true. Collared t shirts have been around for much longer than the name “polo shirt”.

Yeah I think that’s what we called them when I was young enough to do PE.

I would agree with this.

If I was being specific then I'd call the top in the OP a poloshirt (and not a shirt) but if I was being generic, then it would be a top or t-shirt.

If I was told to picture a "t-shirt" then I'd think of something without a collar, but if for example I was placing children's clothing in a drawer, I put poloshirts and t-shirts together and call them all t-shirts for brevity. I tend to think of "top" or "t-shirt" as being the generic category of garments that go directly next to your skin unless it's cold enough to also wear a vest (which I think Americans call undershirt). Unless otherwise specified, a t-shirt is short sleeved and no collar. But if I was not being specific then a long sleeved top and poloshirt could both be referred to as "your t-shirt" or "pass me that t-shirt please" or "pack four t-shirts" or "DC2 is running out of t-shirts, can you put a wash on?" (I might also use "top" in place of any of these)

Just like everything that goes over the top of the t-shirt is a jumper. Even though my kids mainly have sweaters and hoodies, and nary a knitted item in sight.

And weirdly, the word "shirt" when used on its own definitely means a shirt with buttons and a collar to me. I get the sense from American parenting sites that they use "shirt" as we use "top".

Polo shirt and the collar definitely makes it more formal.

In the 90s/00s you would into have got into many bars/clubs I a collarless t-shirt with jeans but you would in a polo shirt.

In my book a polo shirt is a type of tee shirt. So a polo shirt is a tee shirt but a tee shirt is not necessarily a polo shirt.

I would have thought you are going to have bigger probs than this. For example, your pants. Also your fanny pack 😂.

It is a polo shirt but I would still call it a t-shirt cos I’ve never had to be that precise about describing DP’s tops.

It's a top.

I wouldn't distinguish between them particularly.

It's a polo shirt, which is a type of T-shirt. So T-shirt isn't wrong IMO. I haven't checked, but I would think if your we're looking to buy one of these online, you would look for them under T-shirts h most stores.

It's a polo shirt but they're just a slightly more formal type of t-shirt to me.

A T-Shirt is named as such because of the shape. A polo shirt is still a t-shirt but with a collar.

I am constantly confused which type of shirt we are discussing.
Surely all it takes is a “collar or no collar” “polo or v neck” or what have you, from you to sort that out? Why are you discussing shirts so much?

I would call it a tshirt, it’s got short sleeved and made of thin material.
I don’t own any of these myself, dh does but he deals with his own clothes, not sure I’ve ever had to discuss T-shirts/polo shirts with him in our 21 years together. How often is this topic coming up between you both? And why?!

We always called them golf shirts. 😅

A polo shirt is a subset of t-shirt to me

This isn’t something I would be getting into an argument about.

I would call it a polo shirt. In my mind, polo shirts are not a subset of t-shirts - they're like a slightly swankier cousin.

I love a petty argument, and I would say it is not a t-shirt, because what makes t-shirts T shaped is that they don't have a collar. However, I agree with PPs that no-one would bother wearing these except maybe for PE or as part of a school uniform.

I agree with PPs that no-one would bother wearing these except maybe for PE or as part of a school uniform.

Do you know any men?

I agree with this.

But for clarity and brevity I'd refer to it as a polo shirt.

For disambiguation: not a polo neck, that's a whole different thing.

I agree.
I would consider this a T-shirt variant (more akin to a subcategory).

This is simply a T-shirt with a collar...