Air bnb owner ott or do we deserve to be chucked out?

[Pilloh]

We were forced out of our house due to a water leak in the house. The insurance company said we had to move out due to the severity of the work.

A bit of a nightmare for us as we have a large dog. He’s been called a wonderfully mannered dog by a qualified behaviourist outside the house who really doesn’t care about people/other dogs. But he is a breed used for guarding and therefore very barky at home (we have a command that gets him to be quiet but it doesn’t stop the impulse to bark initially). Not to make excuses, we were working on this with the behaviourist pre-pandemic but our progress stalled so we just manage the situation. Ie we have gates all around our house/garden, don’t allow strangers and the dog to meet inside the house (he’s totally fine with people when they are not on “his” property). Our house is basically Fort Knox and only DH and I are here so it’s all pretty easy to manage.

We told the air bnb owner that please tell the cleaner not to enter house or garden without telling us as dog will run up and bark at strangers. He agreed. We explained the situation and he said he understood.

Yesterday pm, cleaner comes into the garden when I was playing footy - she was fetching something from shed. Dog ran towards her and barked. I gave the recall command which worked initially but then my dog ran back to cleaner and barked. It’s no doubt intimidating. After 20 ish secs dog was in the house and I apologised. Recall is not full proof hence why we never rely on it. We would never have found an Airbnb where we were not assured we would be informed of any person entering the property.

Owner has messaged now saying the cleaner won’t return whilst we are here and that means we have to leave as the owner is not ok with the house not being maintenanced.

Cleaner has visited 4 times without incident as the right procedures were followed.

Who is being unreasonable?

"The end" 😂😂😂

You sound a complete eejit saying that 😂"my word is FINAL!" oh ok then lol

She maybe a guest, but one that told the host before she moved in the situation with the dog. And the host agreed. Now is backtracking.

If I say to a host, just to warn you my husband like to walk around naked with a pink balloon attached to his nether regions, so please let me know if you are coming round, AND THEY AGREE, then that is what should happen.

I am paying to use the house at my convenience. If the host then turns up and is horrified/scared/revolted by my H, whose fault is it? Should we be told to leave because the host was an idiot and didnt do as was agreed???

Yes for sure - apologies

Yes and the airbnb owner also does not want to come close to a scenario where anything bad happens, which is why he's asked you to leave.

You've told the owner the dog bites. The dog has now shown aggression to the cleaner. He isn't going to risk an attack. Why should he and the cleaner take the risk of trusting that you will keep the dog away if they follow the protocol and text in advance? It could go wrong, and as far as they're concerned one mistake on either your part or theirs and the cleaner gets mauled. That's not an acceptable position to put someone in.

You've given them good reason to consider your dog dangerous, OP. Most people don't want to accommodate dangerous dogs; they want to stay well away from them.

Well the owner did want to accommodate the dog. Just think he should have said no from the outset.

And presumably no neighbours within ear shot?

But now the circumstances have changed because the cleaner won't take the risk of being attacked by a dog that she's been told bites. So the owner can't accommodate you, because his property won't be cleaned as a result. I don't see how anyone can blame the cleaner for refusing to take this risk. She's already been terrified by the dog once while just trying to do her job. The owner tried it out; the dog is more of a problem than he anticipated and he's under no obligation to put anyone at further risk or compromise on the maintenance of his property.

Why do people post in AIBU when they argue with anyone who dares tell them they are being unreasonable

Terrified by the dog because she decided not to follow the rules that have been put in place. I understand her fears but when she did follow guidelines, the dog was clearly fine.

We do not have immediate neighbours. Closest house is 50m around a corner.

Yes but now that's happened and she's experienced how frightening the dog is (and remember the OP has told them it bites!) she doesn't want to risk anything else in the protocol failing. Maybe she will remember to text, but OP won't get it or the dog will get out of wherever it's being contained or will come back early from a walk. If you think of it from her point of view, she's being asked to enter a property with a dangerous dog and to rely on its owners, who she doesn't know, to keep her safe from it. Why should she trust them and take that risk?

Mystifies me why people actively choose to own a breed pet which requires so much faffing / accommodating / compromising (the need to know exactly when a visitor might approach, the need for bonkers levels of gates & fences, having to take pet out on a walk to fit round a visitor, narrowing down accommodation options etc )….

Is life not complicated & busy enough without having life choices, accommodation and free time dominated by your choice of pet breed?! 🤷🏼‍♀️ Sounds stifling and restrictive to me, but I appreciate its different strokes for different folks.

Well said. I have chimed in with a couple of comments but I'm kind of thinking I shouldn't have bothered as they've mostly got lost amongst all the negativity.

Because they love their animals. Because they're trying to do the right thing and not pass a problem dog onto someone else? Because something happened to the dog to cause the reactivity? Is it really so difficult to understand?

My point was why would someone choose to bring that headache into their life rather than choosing a pet which then can cope with without it affecting & influencing all ways in which they live their life and in which others can approach them / clean for them / house them / visit them)?

As evidenced by this very OP, her choice of pet breed is very much negatively impacting on her (hence the point of the thread)…. It just wouldn’t have been an issue with a different animal. People make their beds & have to lie in them….no use then moaning the bed is the wrong size. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Negatively impacted her? Had you read all her comments you would have seen that she is only here to make comments at all thanks to the dog & her DH, such is her health & wellbeing.

I think it's about the times that this matters. My dog causes issues regarding going on holiday, I wouldn't leave him in kennels and only one or two people can look after him. We haven't yet left him to go abroad but as he is six, that's six to twelve weeks of faff but 300 to 306 weeks of joy so far. When we do go away, he comes with and loves it! When people come to the house, there's a bit of checking his behaviour or locking him away when kids have a sleepover but that should be done anyway regardless of dog breed or size.

We love him and he suits us. Before OP went through this she had her house set up, doesn't sound like she lives near anyone to have concern that way (perfect) and everything suited. For a short time, it might be quite shit but back at home it will go back to being as she wants!

That being said, we've decided this is our last dog for a while. We want to live frivolously with minimal responsibilities for a time 😂

lol I just noticed who you are, so I’ll just say:

I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for u tho. Or sorry that happened.

I think some of these responses are a bit OTT. You were honest and explained the situation to the property owner who assured you that it was fine. But now they have changed their minds, causing a big problem for you during what sounds like an already stressful time!

If I was staying in an air BnB, I wouldn't expect unannounced visits either, even without the dog. What if you were in the bath, having sex, or on a work call and they just arrived at the house with no warning? Surely giving you some notice of their cleaning schedule isn't too unreasonable.

Nothing bad will happen if the cleaner uses her brain and lets them know when she is going to clean. She is rude and stupid

I had indeed read all of the OP’s posts.

Like the OP, I’m aware of the limitations on my mental health (severe mental illness here), time, and space….hence why I don’t have a very large, barky, bitey dog which I’m unable to train properly.

I owe my life to my pet, who’s often seen me through long periods of severe suicidal depression & hospitalisation….. as a result my pet is a cat.

Rent = £52,000 per annum 😳

Dog is very easy in everyday life when at home. Occasionally we have to make arrangements for him to be out of the house or put him in the annexe when someone has to be in the house. But he is a big love bug who makes me laugh and smile everyday. What a cold and bleak existence I would have without him.

I really like the sound of this neighbour

She respects her cleaner, listens to her, and advocates for her

It’s not a proper tenancy. It’s an air bnb. Short term holiday lets don’t have the same rules or the same prices at long term rentals.