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To want to find other closeted bi women near me (Kent)?

110 replies

ChocBanana · 11/11/2023 22:29

I recently realised (aged 48, 49 in December) that I am bisexual. I have long thought I was bicurious but I suddenly realised that I was lying to myself, it’s not curiosity, it’s deep down desire for both sexes.
It has knocked me for six a bit but I am finally at peace with it, in my mind at least.
The only person I have told in real life is my husband, who is being very supportive. He is happy for me to sleep with women as long as it isn’t behind his back and I have no plans to leave.
My problem is that now I have accepted it and been accepted, I really, really want to find a woman who is in a similar position but I also don’t want anyone else to know.
I feel like I am finally being true to myself by acknowledging my sexuality but also that I can’t handle the truth getting out.
AIBU to want the best of both worlds? I want a woman I can share a physical and spiritual connection with but I absolutely don’t want an “out” relationship with her, for various reasons I don’t want to go into.
Does such a woman exist or am I just going to have to choose?

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Isittimeformynapyet · 12/11/2023 01:33

ChocBanana · 11/11/2023 22:49

I don’t fucking know, do I? I THINK I am looking for something casual and unofficial with my husband’s knowledge and permission. If that develops into something more, then I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it, I guess.
Due to health issues (his, not mine) my husband and I haven’t had sex in well over two years but we are trying to work on the relationship as a whole.

Jesus, this whole thing is a fucking nightmare enough as it is without the barrage of abuse I appear to have walked into.

I didn’t choose to be this way. I didn’t choose to marry a man who would be essentially impotent by 45. I didn’t choose to have to consider divorce just so I can have my needs met. I didn’t choose to be so strongly attracted to the same sex that I would consider sleeping with them while married to a member of the opposite one.
I didn’t choose to lose hours of sleep and feel the absolute shame and guilt I feel about all of this.
I guess I should just go elsewhere, where I might get some actual advice instead of sneered at.

Hmm. Perhaps you haven't seen what a real "barrage of abuse" looks like on here - I thought the responses were pretty measured tbh! But that will change after your aggressive reply.

Just keep looking online OP. There's something out there for every persuasion, but just be safe.

slore · 12/11/2023 02:23

ChocBanana · 11/11/2023 22:36

In my experience (online discussions) there are literally thousands of bi women married to men, many of who have their husband’s permission to play around. There are entire websites for that.

Nah, these are just straight women trying to please their husbands.

CosmoK · 12/11/2023 02:33

Join Skirt Club.

It's exactly what you're looking for.

CosmoK · 12/11/2023 02:37

Nah, these are just straight women trying to please their husbands.

No, not true.

@ChocBanana look up Skirt Club.
It is exactly what you're looking for. You'll never look back. It's full of women in the same situation.

Hubbabubbabubbaboo · 12/11/2023 02:50

I'm not local to you unfortunately but I'm in a very similar situation if you would like to inbox me. Just be nice to connect with someone else who knows how I've been feeling for a while. I've been with dh a long time and he knows I'm bi but no one else does, as in family, friends. He's happy for me to experience being with another woman but life dictates that's not easy to do.

TheHawkisHowling · 12/11/2023 03:01

I'm really sorry you've had these deeply unsympathetic, borderline aggressive responses. MN is very, very anti bi in general. I've seen some disgusting threads on here in my time. Tbh I think it's massively remiss of MN to let it fly. It wildly pisses me off. Yeah, there are vile, homophobic people out there but allowing them a platform to post their shit without challenge is 🤮.

That said, no you're not being unreasonable. I'd suggest trying Feeld. There is a kinky element to it, but there are lots of couples on there. I think you'll likely find another husband and wife looking for someone for the woman.

What you want is perfectly normal and reasonable. And no it's not bloody cheating if your DH knows about it and said it's fine. I suspect people are deliberately trying to misunderstand you on that point.

Good luck!

Boofay · 12/11/2023 03:07

I'm in a similar position to you, OP.
Not looking to hook up on MN, and am the other side of the Country, but if you want to have a chat about discovering you're no late in life with a very supportive husband, feel free to PM me for a chat.
Also, have a look at Feeld.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 12/11/2023 04:07

I think you should look for specialized websites not dating websites.

This is the reasons lesbians are not keen to date bi women. We have this reputation.

I was contacted by a lot of married women on tinder/pof and I hated it.

I was looking for a relationship, not to be fetishized.

Sex clubs even might be place to go? Your DH could then at least be " part of it. "

VintageTuppence · 12/11/2023 04:19

Curious why they have to be ‘closeted bi women’ - why not openly bi women or lesbians?

Moro93 · 12/11/2023 04:20

Part of me doesn’t even believe you are actually bi. I find it hard to believe it took until your late 40s and going without sex to have this ‘realisation’.
You’re just horny and haven’t had sex in a few years and think you’re more likely to get permission/sympathy from your husband to have sex with a woman than with a man.

As a bi woman I find threads like this really enraging. It’s just helping to ramp up the old stereotype that bisexual people can’t be monogamous! We also have to have the best of both worlds. Jesus Christ, being bisexual isn’t a free license to cheat if you’re supposedly in a monogamous relationship!!!

Moro93 · 12/11/2023 04:21

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Moro93 · 12/11/2023 04:24

Oh and don’t listen to the posters saying to ignore the backlash and that MN is anti bi.
The people giving you hate aren’t against bisexual people at all, they’re just sick of behaviour that perpetrates stereotypes.

TheHawkisHowling · 12/11/2023 04:52

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Fuck me I hope you get this comment deleted. You're sick in the head.

Moro93 · 12/11/2023 04:55

TheHawkisHowling · 12/11/2023 04:52

Fuck me I hope you get this comment deleted. You're sick in the head.

There’s actually quite a few people given thanks to the comment so obviously others agree.

I’m actually not sick in the head, just sick of people acting like being bi is something to be ashamed of. What does she have to hide?

Your comment further up says there’s lots of homophobic people on MN, what’s more homophobic/biphobic than thinking it’s something that needs to be hidden?

VintageTuppence · 12/11/2023 05:00

TheHawkisHowling · 12/11/2023 04:52

Fuck me I hope you get this comment deleted. You're sick in the head.

To be fair, I was wondering if there was some shame when I asked or if she gets off on the secrecy despite having her husband’s permission to play away. It seems a strange requirement.

daisychain01 · 12/11/2023 05:02

This sounds all kinds of wrong.

and MN isn't a hookup site so stop trying to make this thread into one

TheHawkisHowling · 12/11/2023 05:05

Moro93 · 12/11/2023 04:55

There’s actually quite a few people given thanks to the comment so obviously others agree.

I’m actually not sick in the head, just sick of people acting like being bi is something to be ashamed of. What does she have to hide?

Your comment further up says there’s lots of homophobic people on MN, what’s more homophobic/biphobic than thinking it’s something that needs to be hidden?

You've only got to read Mumsnet for five minutes to work out why people want to keep it hidden. You'd think people were starting threads about their cannibalism from the reaction.

daisychain01 · 12/11/2023 05:06

with a very supportive husband

there is absolutely no way of validating that this is the case. People post all sorts of shit on here.

Moro93 · 12/11/2023 05:09

TheHawkisHowling · 12/11/2023 05:05

You've only got to read Mumsnet for five minutes to work out why people want to keep it hidden. You'd think people were starting threads about their cannibalism from the reaction.

But this is people reacting on Mumsnet, not real life. The OP wants to hide her bisexuality in real life as though it’s something to be ashamed of. Most people who have the worst reactions on threads like this are the ones who are fed up of people using their bisexuality as an excuse to cheat. I don’t think the supportive comments would exist if this was a man posting saying his wife has given him permission to go and have sex with other men.

TheHawkisHowling · 12/11/2023 05:14

Moro93 · 12/11/2023 05:09

But this is people reacting on Mumsnet, not real life. The OP wants to hide her bisexuality in real life as though it’s something to be ashamed of. Most people who have the worst reactions on threads like this are the ones who are fed up of people using their bisexuality as an excuse to cheat. I don’t think the supportive comments would exist if this was a man posting saying his wife has given him permission to go and have sex with other men.

Swinging is completely normal. Although indeed, on MN if someone's husband was bisexual, there would very much be a thoroughly nasty reaction. You'd have to be very new to make the mistake of mentioning that your DH wasn't straight. Unsupportive would be the least of it.

EveryKneeShallBow · 12/11/2023 11:09

Moro93 · 12/11/2023 04:24

Oh and don’t listen to the posters saying to ignore the backlash and that MN is anti bi.
The people giving you hate aren’t against bisexual people at all, they’re just sick of behaviour that perpetrates stereotypes.

Exactly. No hate here. Not even going into my personal details but I have very good reason to be sick of this nonsense. The women are living breathing humans with their own needs and wants. Not fodder for your and your husband’s sexual peccadilloes.

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2023 11:12

I am suspicious that he is happy for you to sleep with other women. Would he want to take part at any point?

Janinejones · 12/11/2023 11:18

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2023 11:12

I am suspicious that he is happy for you to sleep with other women. Would he want to take part at any point?

I think the OP said he is impotent. So it won't apply.
Many husbands will get off on hearing fullest details, a woman may accept this as being the 'affordable cost' of her going out.

TimeForTeaAndG · 12/11/2023 11:23

OP, the term you want is Ethical Non-Monogamy. Open relationship, swinging, polyamory, all fall under the umbrella. It's about informed consent, communication is key.

Winnading · 12/11/2023 11:32

Janinejones · 12/11/2023 11:18

I think the OP said he is impotent. So it won't apply.
Many husbands will get off on hearing fullest details, a woman may accept this as being the 'affordable cost' of her going out.

Which is unfair on the other woman. She is expendable, worthless, not respected. That's probably why OP wants someone still closeted.

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