To eat bolognaise I left out over night?

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I cooked a big pot of bolognaise last night and left the remainder on top of the oven in a big aluminium casserole pot with every intention of portioning it up and putting it the fridge for today.

Would it be ok for me to have for lunch or do I need to waste it now?

Yes. I do this deliberately to depthen the flavours.

I'm not arguing with you. I don't believe you're for real.

depthen flavours and MURDER CHILDREN!

I wouldn’t unless my kitchen was 5’ overnight

There are a million people in this country who use food banks. And yet people here think recooking pasta / sauce is a safeguarding issue.

Ffs get a grip - a sense of proportion would not go amiss!

here's a suggestion, why don't you look up a few numbers for yourself? And maybe look into some school science about how food poisoning happens. No need to take my word for anything

“Sure we take risks every day, but there is something extremely seriously wrong with your ability to "weigh up" the risks if you are prepared to risk giving yourself or your children poisoning which at best causes days of severe pain and discomfort, and days lost from education and work, and at worst causes permanent disability or death”

From Road Safety UK
”Figures show that in 2021, 512 children aged seven or younger were killed or seriously injured on British roads. That’s one young child every 17 hours – and the equivalent of a whole class of young children (27) being killed or seriously injured every 19 days.”

”The FSA estimates that there are 500 deaths from food poisoning in the UK every year.

So 500 people out of all the UK population were killed by ALL food poisoning (not just pasta) in any given year, and an equivalent of under seven year old children on the roads each year.

The moral of the story, don’t take a young child near a road until they are eight.

This is my last post on the matter: I don't need to look at numbers or stats. I have my own experience as a child growing up and my own experience as an adult to draw upon.

Everyone in this house has eaten food past use by dates. Everyone in this house has eaten food past best before dates (in the case of Greek yoghurt, 2 months after the BB date). Everyone in this house has eaten all manner of food that was kept on the hob overnight. No one has ever been sick.

Ha ha I agree some folk are ridiculous.
Being doing this for years and no one has died.

are you for real? Seriously? lets allow children to die from food poisoning because some other children die on the road?

Really?????

That's not how multiplication works.

If the food is cooked to 75 degrees and eaten straight away or rapidly cooled, then refrigerated, it should be fine. Cooking it to that temperature might not kill off all of the bacteria present in the food, but it will be reduced to a safe level (so not enough to make you sick). The dangerous pathogenic bacteria needs 4 things to multiply; food, moisture, time, and temperature. If you take one of those away, it can not multiply. So if you're leaving the food on the side for hours you're giving it time and by not refrigerating it you're giving it the temperature it needs for any surviving bacteria to start multiplying and the longer it's left, the more time it has to multiply to unsafe levels. In other words, at 1pm, you may have cooked the food to 75 degrees, bacteria is still present but not to unsafe levels. You leave it out to room temperature, and at 6 pm, the bacteria has had hours to start multlying to unsafe levels and releasing dangerous toxins as they do so (which can not be killed by cooking). If there are spores present too, these will start to germinate once the food goes to below 63 degrees. Being in a sealed pot makes no difference if the bacteria is already present.

To be fair actually being a human gives you a level immunity to human pathogens that you wouldn't have to alien species

@secondfavouritesocks Don’t think you read my post correctly. More young children (under seven years old) die on the road then adults and children combined from food poisoning every year. Maybe I was being facetious but I just wanted to illustrate that life carries risk.

Is @secondfavouritesocks still carrying on?

Nothing wrong with a bit of immunity building food roulette!

Good answer! But people did still cook extra to have leftovers next day. Even those who had cosy homes! The advice was always to heat through thoroughly. You’ll be fine OP; don’t waste it!

She already ate it yesterday.

In hot weather then yes, but in winter I'd take a chance with it, especially as I do love it

Wouldn’t even think twice about it.

@PumpkiPie A bolognaise is usually cooked for quite some time and at higher temperatures than 75C, it would pretty much kill off most vegetative cells and I'm not sure where all those spores would come from given that pretty much the only spore formers among the human food pathogens are Bacillus cereus (and B. anthracis, not really a food pathogen although can be occassionally) and the various Clostridia So, even if you have some spores, they will not germinate before the temperature drops to well within their growth temperature range which is around 40C and growth will slow down quickly when the temperature drops below optimum.
I have done a lot of bacterial (and archaeal) growth kinetics work and if the conditions the OP describes in her post lead to a significant increase in pathogens in that bolognaise in a standard UK kitchen (I assume she isn't somewhere warm) overnight, I'll eat my hat.

It is a stupid, crazy and utterly pointless risk to take

It's fucking spaghetti. We all must live wild and thrilling lives eating leftovers, risking our lives and living on the edge every weekday night.

Maybe the OP stirred it with her unwashed hands as it was cooling? 😁
I can’t believe we’ve gone from a simple question about food storage to suggesting child protective services need to be called.

@secondfavouritesocks
Is it the reheating that's the problem? I have been making pasta the night before to take to work for years.

I can’t believe we’ve gone from a simple question about food storage to suggesting child protective services need to be called.

It IS mumsnet 😆

Your post still makes no sense at all. There is no equivalency what so ever.

An individual child is many orders of magnitude more likely to be harmed by an individual incidence of eating unrefrigerated cooked pasta than by an individual car journey.

You can bluff all you like. I don't believe for one moment that you would deliberately feed your children dangerous food likely to seriously harm them. No loving parent would

Oh dear, I left my chicken curry out overnight and put it in the fridge this morning. I'll let you know if I'm dead tomorrow!

Actually according to this thread I should be dead already, eating pasta left on the hob overnight! How dare I still be alive after that!