To eat bolognaise I left out over night?

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I cooked a big pot of bolognaise last night and left the remainder on top of the oven in a big aluminium casserole pot with every intention of portioning it up and putting it the fridge for today.

Would it be ok for me to have for lunch or do I need to waste it now?

Which bacteria aren't killed by prolonged heat? It denatures their proteins, right?

Don't say those ones that live in volcanic vents.... I think chances are we're safe from those...

I wouldn’t but then food spoils quickly in my house. So I box and refrigerate which takes a whole minute and saves me the “am I going to get food poisoning/squits dilemma” 😅

Some bacteria, such as staphylococcus (staph) and Bacillus cereus, produce toxins not destroyed by high cooking temperatures.

So it does kill the bacteria, but not the toxins they’ve already produced (potentially by poor storage at too high a temperature), which can make people ill.

I would at the minute, my kitchen is colder than the fridge overnight at the moment. I'd be heating it for longer before eating it though.

Yes, I know. Was just querying your claim 'not all bacteria are killed by high temps'.

Not gonna be a problem for food kept in a cool kitchen overnight though. Obviously heating rotten food or that which has been at in a warm room for many days isn't going to do the job.

I'd add a splash of water and heat it to over 75degrees and it will be fine.

I never put warm food in the fridge so regularly leave stuff out overnight to cool. Goes into the fridge first thing in the morning.

Ah so you new exactly what I meant, and the context of me saying it, but were just being anal.

OP - I do this on purpose all the time. I often cook late at night, as can't find the time earlier, then don't want to put hot food into the fridge, so I leave it out till the morning. I've never been sick from it.

I'd eat it. Always do it. Turn the slow cooker off at about 9 or 10pm when going to bed. Then portion it yourself to freeze in the morning.

Not only will it be safe, it will be far yummier.

No speaking as a chef I wouldn't at Home or work.
Reheating doesn't kill all bacteria and I've no idea why you would take the risk.

Reading this thread is exactly why I don't like eating at other people's houses 🤮

No, sorry if it sounded that way.
I wondered if I was wrong and wanted to learn something if so (can't think of a way of writing that which doesn't sound sarcastic but it's true 😂)

Of course it’s fine. People are so stupid about food safety. I never check a single date, never had food poisoning-genuinely believe the dates are a scam to make you waste and buy mire

So you would waste the food? You would throw our food to cause food waste emissions, despite the well documented issues caused by food waste emissions. You would throw out food when people are literally not eating in a day, in this country. When children eat one meal a day. When parents eat their kids leftovers and NOTHING ELSE. You're coming on here to suggest that that food should be thrown out.

Fucking hell. Check your privilege.

Food waste really bothers me. We need to be able to engage our common sense in these situations.

Of course it's fine!

Have we all lost our ability to simply smell food to see if it's off?

And if it's a teeny bit off but not enough to make you ill, all the better. Your immune system will ultimately be better for it.

Most bacteria is good.

Hygiene isn't always healthy.

Use by dates are a scam. Your nose and eyes are more reliable.

I always leave my bolognese out and eat it the next day, the pan is too big to put in the fridge and there's too much to put in tupperwares. So it will be fine!

Well it was eaten and enjoyed for lunch and we all feel fine.

that was a bit silly - I hope you have not fed it to children. Why would you do that? Keep an eye on them for the next week or two

what do you think people did before fridges?

weve already had this question. A lot of them died from food poisoning, is one answer. But the ones that didn't used larders, ice houses, vinegar, salt, smoking, etc. The Op has not used anything like that, they simply left the food out by mistake

A lot of them died from food poisoning, is one answer.

I doubt anyone died from food poisoning from food left out for one night. Has anyone got any actual evidence to suggest this is the case?