Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To eat bolognaise I left out over night?

193 replies

shorterthanaverage · 11/11/2023 09:50

I cooked a big pot of bolognaise last night and left the remainder on top of the oven in a big aluminium casserole pot with every intention of portioning it up and putting it the fridge for today.

Would it be ok for me to have for lunch or do I need to waste it now?

OP posts:
TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2023 21:44

Keep an eye on them for the next week or two

And why would you need to keep an eye on them for 2 weeks? Food poisoning manifests within about 48 hours tops.

gawditswindy · 11/11/2023 21:45

shorterthanaverage · 11/11/2023 21:32

Well it was eaten and enjoyed for lunch and we all feel fine.

Oh thank God.

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 21:47

secondfavouritesocks · 11/11/2023 21:40

weve already had this question. A lot of them died from food poisoning, is one answer. But the ones that didn't used larders, ice houses, vinegar, salt, smoking, etc. The Op has not used anything like that, they simply left the food out by mistake

No, people didn't die from eating a freshly cooked meal left out for 9 hours or so in winter...

secondfavouritesocks · 11/11/2023 21:48

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2023 21:43

A lot of them died from food poisoning, is one answer.

I doubt anyone died from food poisoning from food left out for one night. Has anyone got any actual evidence to suggest this is the case?

yeeeesss, as I keep pointing out, pasta is one of the most dangerous foods to take risks with.... even refrigerated it shouldn't be kept more than 1-2 days, and left outside the fridge, it needed to be thrown away.

If a child in my school reported being fed something like this, it would be reported under safeguarding

I don't believe the OP has fed this to children, because it would be such an irresponsible and dangerous thing to do - they are probably just bluffing

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 21:48

secondfavouritesocks · 11/11/2023 21:40

weve already had this question. A lot of them died from food poisoning, is one answer. But the ones that didn't used larders, ice houses, vinegar, salt, smoking, etc. The Op has not used anything like that, they simply left the food out by mistake

if you avoid bacteria to such an extreme extent, you're going to get more ill in the long term

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2023 21:51

yeeeesss, as I keep pointing out, pasta is one of the most dangerous foods to take risks with.... even refrigerated it shouldn't be kept more than 1-2 days, and left outside the fridge, it needed to be thrown away.

That ... isn't evidence though

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2023 21:52

I don't believe the OP has fed this to children, because it would be such an irresponsible and dangerous thing to do - they are probably just bluffing

😂😂😂

Fgs. If you're serious, get some help

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 21:53

secondfavouritesocks · 11/11/2023 21:48

yeeeesss, as I keep pointing out, pasta is one of the most dangerous foods to take risks with.... even refrigerated it shouldn't be kept more than 1-2 days, and left outside the fridge, it needed to be thrown away.

If a child in my school reported being fed something like this, it would be reported under safeguarding

I don't believe the OP has fed this to children, because it would be such an irresponsible and dangerous thing to do - they are probably just bluffing

Just because something has a higher risk of causing food poisoning if left out, doesn't mean it's essentially dangerous to leave it out. We don't not ride bicycles because we have a significantly higher risk of being run over than if we walked.

DixonD · 11/11/2023 21:55

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2023 21:51

yeeeesss, as I keep pointing out, pasta is one of the most dangerous foods to take risks with.... even refrigerated it shouldn't be kept more than 1-2 days, and left outside the fridge, it needed to be thrown away.

That ... isn't evidence though

Google it - people have died from eating pasta that has been left out of the fridge.

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 21:56

DixonD · 11/11/2023 21:55

Google it - people have died from eating pasta that has been left out of the fridge.

Of course they have. People have also died when riding bikes or flying in planes.

CharingX976 · 11/11/2023 21:56

(but that doesn't mean you should never do it)

Igneococcus · 11/11/2023 21:57

Is there actually any pasta in the bolognaise? Wouldn't that be separate?

Luna02 · 11/11/2023 21:58

So not quite the same, my husband had left a pie in the oven overnight and put it in the fridge in the morning. I took a slice and was horrendously ill a few hours later, worst (where I was considering going to A&E and thinking I might actually die from this) lasted about 5hours but took me a full month to recover my strength back. I think left on top of the stove is not a risky, leaving in the oven is worse as it’s the perfect temperature for bacteria for hours while the oven is cooling. My husband still hasn’t learnt though and will just turn off the oven rather than take the food out. But I also learnt that beef is particularly bad for poisoning, so would have thrown the spaghetti bolognaise out and def not fed to kids.

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2023 21:59

Google it - people have died from eating pasta that has been left out of the fridge.

Pasta left out for how long?

How many people?

Riverlee · 11/11/2023 22:01

Oh dear . My kids regularly ate food that had cooled overnight.

I think rice is the dodgy food that shouldn’t be reheated, not pasta.

Happyher · 11/11/2023 22:02

MassageForLife · 11/11/2023 09:57

I would eat it.

When I was a child, we didn't have a fridge. We ate leftovers and had no problems.

Same here. I’d have no issue eating it. The dripping used to stay out all week

Igneococcus · 11/11/2023 22:03

But I also learnt that beef is particularly bad for poisoning,

People eat raw beef in form of carpaccio or steak tartare and survive somehow.

secondfavouritesocks · 11/11/2023 22:13

Riverlee · 11/11/2023 22:01

Oh dear . My kids regularly ate food that had cooled overnight.

I think rice is the dodgy food that shouldn’t be reheated, not pasta.

They are exactly the same level of risk

secondfavouritesocks · 11/11/2023 22:14

Igneococcus · 11/11/2023 22:03

But I also learnt that beef is particularly bad for poisoning,

People eat raw beef in form of carpaccio or steak tartare and survive somehow.

only if stored and prepared properly, which this wasnt

Igneococcus · 11/11/2023 22:18

Ok @secondfavouritesocks tell me, what will actually grow in a bolognaise that, I assume, has been cooked for quite a while (killing all bacteria that are found in meat) and then kept in a covered pot overnight? Where do pathogens actually spring from that quickly?

Withnailandsigh · 11/11/2023 22:25

For those absolutely losing their minds over this, if I’m not mistaken, the OP cooked a pot of ground beef, tomatoes onions and herbs to the extent it was all blended through and had been simmering for some time so this has reached a high temp and at this point pretty sterile. OP Took some out to slosh over some spaghetti and replaced the lid. So at that point we have a lot of piping hot, non-bacteria infested food which then cooled in a pot with a lid on and was left in a cool kitchen overnight. Bacteria doesn’t just spontaneously appear in boiling hot liquids, or in cooling ones which are not exposed
so providing no one dicked about with it, the cat didn’t have a bath in it and no one flicked a bogie in it ( ie, the lid stayed sealed) then the bloody bolognaise would be absolutely fine the next day.
ive never given myself or any of my family food poisoning and I’ve been 25 years the main cook of a household. This, would never even resister as risky to me.

Momtotwokids · 11/11/2023 22:25

Everyone's food is ok leaving it overnight till it isn't. I've had food poisoning, don't need a repeat.

Humbugg · 11/11/2023 22:27

Happily eat it as it’s beef.

Would Chuck anything left out that’s chicken or pork or fish

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2023 22:28

Everyone's food is ok leaving it overnight till it isn't. I've had food poisoning, don't need a repeat.

But it's a balance of risk. What is the actual danger of leaving a pot of food for 8 or so hours at a cool time of year?

I've had food poisoning too. Twice. Once with oysters, once after eating in a fast food place in Moscow. These were genuinely risky occasions.

I've eaten food left over night countless times. Nada.

Blackandwhitemakesgrey · 11/11/2023 22:29

Riverlee · 11/11/2023 09:59

I do that all the time. If the meat is still warm, I never put in the fridge.

We do this all the time too. DH cooks enough for two/three dinners and we leave it on the cooker overnight to cook down and freeze it in portions the following morning.

I wouldn’t do if if it wasn’t red meat though as I’m paranoid about chicken/fish.