What do you think the end of Western civilisation will look like?

[curiousabouttheaesthetics]

Am hopeful it won't be for a good while yet

But with the whole world being so uncertain at the moment, with climate change and resource wars and mass migration on the horizon, I guess who knows what the coming decades could be like?

Hopefully though human ingenuity can find ways of muddling along as long as possible. If we can't, and if in 100 years high wet bulb temperatures and flooding and antimicrobial resistance has pretty much whittled down half or more of the world's population - do you think then the remaining people would set aside geopolitical differences? To get their smartest people working together to solve environmental problems? And with the rich everywhere pitching in resources?

Or do you think rich countries will just continue to try to hog resources until the bitter end of humanity?

I think AI will solve the majority of the problems we have right now.

The biggest problem we face is when the AI's decide that we humans are the problem and decide to fix the issue.

Thank you for proving my point. As I thought, You are unable to have an open discussion or entertain opposing viewpoints without putting a spin on my words which suit your narrative.

@bombastix humans have always migrated, people only complain about the less well off. On its own, it's not really a problem.

The thing to analyse is who is migrating and why. War & poverty primarily. What I'm arguing is acknowledging the causes, and taking action. Stop doing the harmful things we do today, and take remedial action with regards to past harms that play a huge role in extreme differences in circumstances.

I don't imagine for a second it's a quick and easy fix, but I think it's clear our safety and comfort depends on it. It's acknowledged already at a national level. The NHS and social security aren't acts of charity and goodwill, but self interest for a stable and prosperous society. I'm not responsible for my neighbours health or wealth, but if they're in good physical health and not starving then I'm safer, and they won't give me a preventable transmissible disease

It's not a bad answer! A country might well take in new labour but I don't think the UK has really thought about mass migration properly recently, and what 600,000 looks like. This is Legal migration- asylum isn't what I would focus on, the figures are tiny. That is dog whistle stuff.

I remain concerned about the expression of religion in the U.K. That is a challenge on so many levels to what is "civilised" in the U.K. Cultural identity rooted in religious practice can undermine a lot of the law I think underpins social progress in the UK.

It's a mark of how reductive the debate can get which is to say multiculturalism is innately good. I don't agree. It's something you have to examine and say, is it working? Is the UK better or stronger or what can we do to build cohesiveness.

End of Western civilisation would be slow decline with increasing inequality reduction in living standards aging inadequate infrastructure slowly crumbling with minimal investment in upkeep. Rest of globe other areas with younger populations and workforces start to pull ahead but it depends on demographics and global climate changes and how they interact. We may be at the start.

Wider civilization collapse - much worse prospect - mass starvation, war loss and loss of knowledge and no technological improvements.

Newport city centre had £17m thrown at it since 2018 in regeneration so on one hand it's odd it's named on here as I do know many worse city/town centers - on other hand it is on a decline with less and less footfall and does serve as an example of money being spent of wrong things at wrong time having limiting effect on decline.

Well, quite. I mean, it wouldn't be wrong of AI to come to that conclusion, depressing as that is.

Although I think we are a fairly long time from AI being capable of that surely?

I think the real danger of AI is the potential for complete confusion and chaos.

I mean has anyone seen the AI generated Heidi film trailer?

It's terrifying

A pink-haired stupid saying ‘Israel is a war crime’.

Cringingly, it was female. Shitty uk education is helping decline no end.

Guess the only thing they taught them was not to drool.

@Hyperion100

Some of us humans already reached that conclusion. The racist march tomorrow shows us 500,000 problems to be ‘fixed’.