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Trans/pride flag in children's stickers

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timeforacoffeebreak · 07/11/2023 10:09

This was included in a pack of squishmallow stickers... why???
AIBU or is this totally wrong ??

Trans/pride flag in children's stickers
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AgnestaVipers · 07/11/2023 19:06

FarmGirl78 · 07/11/2023 18:51

Oh give over. How the chuff is a cat and a rainbow going to encourage someone to try and change sex?

Perhaps read the thread.

FarmGirl78 · 07/11/2023 19:37

Helleofabore · 07/11/2023 19:03

It would be the progress flag making the political statement on the cute animals front that the poster is referring to. Not the rainbow.

Is there any other political symbol that you think is appropriate to give to a child ?

I'm 45 and if I didn't know it was a progress flag I can't see an 8 year old would.

Boiledbeetle · 07/11/2023 19:46

FarmGirl78 · 07/11/2023 19:37

I'm 45 and if I didn't know it was a progress flag I can't see an 8 year old would.

Because it's everywhere and they are being bombarded with it, On tv, in the library, in school.... On stickers! And if you didn't know it was the progress pride flag all that indicates is you haven't been paying attention.

Helleofabore · 07/11/2023 20:12

FarmGirl78 · 07/11/2023 19:37

I'm 45 and if I didn't know it was a progress flag I can't see an 8 year old would.

It doesn’t matter whether you know really. Do you or do you not support political symbols being on children’s products?

If you believe this one is ok, which other ones do you think would be ok?

FarmGirl78 · 07/11/2023 20:20

Boiledbeetle · 07/11/2023 19:46

Because it's everywhere and they are being bombarded with it, On tv, in the library, in school.... On stickers! And if you didn't know it was the progress pride flag all that indicates is you haven't been paying attention.

Well it's either me not paying attention, or the fact a progress flag hasn't worked very well in infiltrating my thoughts and pursuading me that really I want to be a man.

TheOccupier · 07/11/2023 20:40

YANBU at all - this is grooming. The sticker needs to go straight in the bin along with Drag Queen Story Time, "chosen families", anything involving Jeffrey Marsh, and other nonce-adjacent tactics of the movement.

CraggyIslandTouristBoard · 07/11/2023 20:44

justteanbiscuits · 07/11/2023 16:24

And many of us see it differently. It is not harmful to me as a female. Trans women are no risk to me and any other female.

Toxic makes however... But as long as everyone shouts over everything about the risk trans women are, we ignore what the real risk is.

“Trans women are no risk to me and any other female. Toxic males however...”

Here’s the thing. If trans women are allowed into women’s changing rooms, domestic violence refuges, rape support groups, prisons etc then basically that opens the door to all men. Because any toxic male can claim or pretend to be trans.

So my question for you is: how can we differentiate between the “genuine trans women” and the bad actor “toxic men” who might be pretending to be trans or just saying they are trans? And what about the genuine trans women who want to access women’s spaces in order to commit acts of assault, rape, exhibitionism or voyeurism?

Do you see there might possibly a problem here?

Boiledbeetle · 07/11/2023 20:54

Both of the below are transwomen.

Both use the women's toilets

One is a rapist

The other is widening the bandwidth of what being a woman is

How are women supposed to know which one is which if they find themselves alone with either of them in a woman's single sex space?

Trans/pride flag in children's stickers
Trans/pride flag in children's stickers
Boiledbeetle · 07/11/2023 20:59

Both of the below are transwomen

One is a rapist

One owns a sex dungeon.

How are women supposed to know which one is which if they find themselves alone with either of them in a woman's single sex space?

Trans/pride flag in children's stickers
Trans/pride flag in children's stickers
OneMorePlant · 07/11/2023 21:04

YANBU op.

Political propaganda should not be in children's toys.

TheKeatingFive · 07/11/2023 21:06

So my question for you is: how can we differentiate between the “genuine trans women” and the bad actor “toxic men” who might be pretending to be trans or just saying they are trans?

We can't. And this is the question that had never been answered by the TRAs.

So all we can conclude is that people advocating for this simply don't care if women become less safe. Women are just collateral damage for the cause.

Halllooo · 07/11/2023 21:08

It won’t turn your children gay. Or trans. If that’s what you’re worried about?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 07/11/2023 21:09

Halllooo · 07/11/2023 21:08

It won’t turn your children gay. Or trans. If that’s what you’re worried about?

You'd think a thread 612 posts in you would RTFT!!!

Halllooo · 07/11/2023 21:11

You’d think someone would recognise a flippant comment when they see one - but actually, yes, this kind of stoopid, low level pointless everyday homophobia is often about the ‘children’…

StephanieSuperpowers · 07/11/2023 21:15

Halllooo · 07/11/2023 21:11

You’d think someone would recognise a flippant comment when they see one - but actually, yes, this kind of stoopid, low level pointless everyday homophobia is often about the ‘children’…

Toys and stickers so often are.

Mad, when you thunk about it.

nothingcomestonothing · 07/11/2023 21:34

Halllooo · 07/11/2023 21:11

You’d think someone would recognise a flippant comment when they see one - but actually, yes, this kind of stoopid, low level pointless everyday homophobia is often about the ‘children’…

If you RTFT you'll see accusations of homophobia have already been tried. As has 'why do you even care it's just a sticker' and 'kids won't notice' (paradoxically coupled with 'kids who are trans will notice and feel supported so it's good'). Oh, and calling us bigots and 'phobes. You could maybe try 'you boomers don't understand the kids', not sure I've seen that one on the thread yet. Or 'trying to erase trans people ', might a hard sell equating chucking away a sticker with genocide but might be worth a go?

Caerulea · 07/11/2023 22:16

Halllooo · 07/11/2023 21:11

You’d think someone would recognise a flippant comment when they see one - but actually, yes, this kind of stoopid, low level pointless everyday homophobia is often about the ‘children’…

Really? Homophobia? I'll be sure to tell my gay son I'm homophobic for taking issue with the 'progress' flag. He'll be most amused...

Terfosaurus · 07/11/2023 22:23

Caerulea · 07/11/2023 22:16

Really? Homophobia? I'll be sure to tell my gay son I'm homophobic for taking issue with the 'progress' flag. He'll be most amused...

I'm off to tell my gay son he's homophobic for disliking the progress flag.

Halllooo · 07/11/2023 22:33

It’s just a sticker. And a cat. Everyone take a breath.

Caerulea · 07/11/2023 22:50

Terfosaurus · 07/11/2023 22:23

I'm off to tell my gay son he's homophobic for disliking the progress flag.

Oh snap!!

catduckgoose · 07/11/2023 22:52

YANBU. The 'progress pride' flag is a misogynist hate symbol.

IDontHateRainbows · 08/11/2023 08:06

Boiledbeetle · 07/11/2023 20:59

Both of the below are transwomen

One is a rapist

One owns a sex dungeon.

How are women supposed to know which one is which if they find themselves alone with either of them in a woman's single sex space?

Doesn't the one on the right work for the ambulance service and therefore would be heavily vetted to get that job
So we can assume no criminal or sexual offending history?

At what point does concern become transphobic?

TheKeatingFive · 08/11/2023 08:12

Doesn't the one on the right work for the ambulance service and therefore would be heavily vetted to get that job. So we can assume no criminal or sexual offending history?

You might want to check out his behaviour on Twitter. Most notably the harassment and doxxing of a severely disabled woman who has the audacity to stand up for her rights to same sex intimidate care.

If thinking that's disgusting counts as 'transphobia' then I'm proud to take the label.

TheKeatingFive · 08/11/2023 08:15

Also I think he has been relieved of his duties as an ambulance driver now

IDontHateRainbows · 08/11/2023 08:23

TheKeatingFive · 08/11/2023 08:12

Doesn't the one on the right work for the ambulance service and therefore would be heavily vetted to get that job. So we can assume no criminal or sexual offending history?

You might want to check out his behaviour on Twitter. Most notably the harassment and doxxing of a severely disabled woman who has the audacity to stand up for her rights to same sex intimidate care.

If thinking that's disgusting counts as 'transphobia' then I'm proud to take the label.

I know but you are assuming he is a physical danger to women in single sex spaces based on that and I'm saying anyone with a sexual or violent history (recorded) would never have been approved for work in a front line NHS role.

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