Trans/pride flag in children's stickers

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This was included in a pack of squishmallow stickers... why???
AIBU or is this totally wrong ??

Is it a trans rights flag or is it a cat and a rainbow?
Rainbows used to be common on toys. Children often drew rainbows.
Remember Rainbow Brite?

And again, no attacks need to happen. It's about dignity and privacy. I don't want a penised male in my woman only space, harmful to me or that (still waiting to hear how we can tell).

Most women agree with you, according to all polling. I'm not sure why some posters think women's feelings are less important.

Yes. You also quoted part of it in one of your posts.

Your observation about questioning = harassing is very accurate. But what is clear is that this is poster who keeps repeating accusations about poster's transphobia and has been told this is abusive, but continues to do it. Yet, apparently is on the 'right side of history'.

I have no issue with the rainbow flag, but the ‘progress’ flag depicted here is homophobic, racist and regressive,
https://thelesbianpost.substack.com/p/everything-wrong-with-the-progress

Is it a trans rights flag or is it a cat and a rainbow?

It's the progress pride flag incorporating the trans flag, on the cat's belly. Look again.

I'm not sure why some posters think women's feelings are less important.

I'm fairly sure there is a word for that!

Ah I see. I'd never even heard of that.

Exactly, so tired of this strawman argument using women with health issues to prove that being female is a myth.

If you’re a woman who can’t get pregnant, tests will be run to ascertain why.
If you’re a man who can’t GET pregnant, then the Dr wouldn’t have any tests to run on you.

Quite shocking so many people are pretending they don’t know what sex is… then pretend to be feminists… but if you’re a feminist and sex doesn’t exist… whatcha fighting for? Women are oppressed based on their sex, not their gender feels. If we were, misogyny, sexism etc would’ve been sorted ages ago.

Doesn’t mean I don’t feel sorry for those going through a struggle, I just won’t be erased to facilitate the fantasy they need to navigate the world. I think we need far better mental health facilities, especially for the gay and autistic children most affected by this based on the investigations I’ve seen.

Why are people referring to this as a trans flag? It covers a whole range of identities, sexualities, race etc. It's a symbol of inclusivity not purely transness. There is a specific flag for that.

This could easily be explained to a small child that it's a symbol to respect everyone no matter who they are. Parents can get into it as much or as little as they wish. So yes I think yabvu.

Mmmmm.... The Rishi Sunak thread? Where you accused me to being 'nasty' because I repeated a phrase that a poster used to me back at them. The comment from that poster was deleted for being abusive. That was live at the time of your posting to me how 'nasty' I was and I also then reposted it to you I believe. You even apologised because you could see that you got it wrong.

And you talk on this thread about 'context' and bullying and making accusations. You weren't bullied off the thread, you got the final post! My posts on the final page were pointing out your repeated accusations and pointing out again your lack of evidence.

Spectacular DARVO here. You bullied me with your comments on this and on the last thread.

It is very clear that you don't like being asked to support your claims. I suggest that you might want to reconsider making such claims if you cannot support them.

to be clear, I didn't repost the quote that was deleted, but I did post again to refer you to it.

And "you were a key ringleader in that".

Perhaps you are mixing me up with someone else. Just like another pp has suggested you have done with them.

I merely consistently asked you to evidence your claims about scientific evidence there on that thread to before you accused me of 'being nasty'. I mean, I did point out that your posts were littered with accusations at poster and MN for transphobia and on the last page, I pointed out the perhaps your personal definition of transphobia was not the same as the rest of society's?

And then pointed out that other posters calling you 'anti-woman' worked the exact same way as your own accusations of transphobia to people. Plus on your refusal of that premise, I believe I questioned your belief that you had meaningfully engaged.

I have reread that thread, and perhaps your memory is not as accurate as your posts to me on this thread suggest.

In the meantime, I will continue to ask for evidence where there is a danger of misinformation being spread because it is important that every time an ambiguous claim for evidence is made that is known not to be supported that other posters make that clear for readers if the poster has not said so.

Same old bollocks isn't it. Transwomen want to use the female facilities as they don't feel safe in the Male's so we all need to budge up for them but women feeling unsafe in their own single sex spaces because Males are in there should just suck it up as predatory males will come in anyway.

Allowing the one transgirl/transwoman in sixth form access to the girls' loos meant that my youngest child's friend, who was a rape victim, didn't dare access her own school's facilities, and moreover, blamed herself because his presence there made her instinctively afraid.

Allowing transwomen access to the female loos and changing rooms at university means that my (tall, strong, generally fearless) daughter quietly waits till they've gone before trying to use the facilities. Actually, by now, she's stopped thinking 'Oh no, I must be transphobic to react to an obvious bloke like this!' and is now fucking furious instead at the selfishness.

Neither girl has been attacked in those facilities since they became open to all, but they are not using them as before.

It's a subtler disadvantage, but it's there. And we don't need extra disadvantages, thanks.

How many 'pretending to be a transwoman' (that's very transphobic of you by the way, anyone who says they are trans are trans) is too many, in your view?

This could easily be explained to a small child that it's a symbol to respect everyone no matter who they are

Unless you are a survivor of sexual assault or athlete who does not want to share a space with or compete against a man who has self IDd himself as transwoman with no other effort made in which case any respect for your concerns go out the window and you are a terf cunt.

Unless you are a survivor of sexual assault or athlete who does not want to share a space with or compete against a man who has self IDd himself as transwoman with no other effort made in which case any respect for your concerns go out the window and you are a terf cunt.

Or a woman prisoner who would prefer not to be locked up with a male.

I have a question, if i may, for the PPs who have claimed that TW aren't dangerous on the basis that they personally have never been intimidated/attacked/abused/whatever by a TW

Have any of you ever been intimidated/attacked/abused by your father? Your brother? An uncle? Grandad? Husband?

If the answer is no (and I hope for your sake it's no) does that mean you think all fathers/brothers/uncles/Grandads/Husbands are lovely, kind gentle men? Or do you accept that some of them are abusive arseholes? And as we can't tell the difference between the nice and and the not nice ones we keep them all out of women's spaces. What's the difference between them and TW?

Or a girl who wants to wee without a male being present.

This could go on and on.....

Would you like to give us a number of women and girls who would be the 'additional' attacks that loopholes in safeguarding and lowering of the social mores of who uses what spaces is acceptable collateral for you before you might think it a problem?

We had a poster recently, who was a very clear trans activist, tell us that an established trend showing an increase over 100 women and girls being attacked over time would be considered acceptable in their mind. Would you agree with that?

Or would you agree with Chappell who declared it wouldn't matter if there was a slight spike. And I believe that Chappell has been hired recently to advise on ethics for BCAP by the way.

https://x.com/NannaOfDragons/status/1648840051059568641?s=20

Is there a number that you would find acceptable? Or is it n+1?

Because, is it 1? 1 extra UK woman or girl? Well, that that been passed.
3? That is passed too.

What is the number? And why isn't it zero?

The larger question is, why does it have to be any increase in attacks? Just women self excluding from single sex spaces or being traumatised by having a male presence in single sex spaces should be enough. And by male, I mean any person who has the body type which was formed around the production of small gametes, whether that production has ever, will ever or is happening.

Women and girls are nearly nine times more likely to be sexually attacked in mixed changing rooms.

https://fairplayforwomen.com/unisex-changing-rooms-put-women-in-danger/

Or a lesbian who doesn’t want to date someone with a penis, no matter how the penis-have identifies, and doesn’t want to be called a bigot for being same SEX attracted.

Or a rape survivor who does not want a man in her counselling group, even if he is wearing a dress and calling himself Susan, or Mridul. She doesn’t want to deny rape/sexual abuse crisis services to anyone, she just wants one all female group, but ohhh no - she should be re-educated to ‘reframe her trauma’.

Oh give over. How the chuff is a cat and a rainbow going to encourage someone to try and change sex?

It would be the progress flag making the political statement on the cute animals front that the poster is referring to. Not the rainbow.

Is there any other political symbol that you think is appropriate to give to a child ?