Trans/pride flag in children's stickers

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This was included in a pack of squishmallow stickers... why???
AIBU or is this totally wrong ??

@justteanbiscuits
Because you should be able to respond to a point that mentions the word Nazi without suddenly being unable to understand reason and logic and claiming the comment is now untouchable.

It isn't, you're just using that as an excuse not to respond.

Jesus OP, don't you have something more worthwhile to get your back up about?
Am assuming this post is just for goads...

So those women & girls ARE just collateral damage and you are sad if we discuss it.

Oh Tandora.

My son had a labour sticker on his lunchbox while in primary school. He wanted it on there. Was I indoctrinating him?

Your primary school son wanted a Labour Party sticker on his lunchbox?

OK.

No, it wouldn't be OK to have a nazi sticker on a lunchbox. Because Nazi's murdered millions and undertook genocide.

Transwomen have not murdered millions or started a genocide. They have no wish to do either. I found the analogy utterly ridiculous and didn't really think it deserved a sensible reply.

“Just my sex” - that short sentence sums up all the subjugation and discrimination women experience in the world. Because of their biologically sexed bodies.

Something a man will never know. Or a man who thinks he’s a woman will ever know.

That said, frankly though I wouldn’t give a shit about that sticker. The fact that it came from China, probably contains toxic pollutants and was probably made by slaves concerns me more.

It’s a rainbow, not a pride flag and the trans flag is completely different.

It is a progress pride flag incorporating the trans flag. Look again.

Look again, this time at the cat's belly.

Yes. My kids have been raised to be politically conscious. They help us leaflet during election time. We talk about politics in our household and include them in it. We've encouraged them to question politics. I had a roll of stickers for our local labour candidate, and he asked if he could have one on his lunchbox. There was no drama. It was alongside Star Wars stickers, Marvel stickers and the like.

Totally inappropriate. This would go straight in my bin without another thought. So done with all this inclusive nonsense. Trans women are men.

I've also come across situations that haven't been great for my DS either. He stopped going to a theatre group because an older teenage girl decided she was a boy and became very intrusive in her interactions with him. He's only 11; how's he supposed to handle a 14 year old girl telling him she's actually a boy, same as him. I asked the group to get her to back off but they wouldn't.

But of course men shouldn't be allowed in women's spaces. The fact that it's even suggested shows how batty the world has become.

Trans people ersse themselves.

If the word woman/man can mean anything and nothing depending on individual desires and is merely semantics then what are you transitioning to or from?

As Tandora appears to have conveniently flounced, anyone else fancy having a go at answering my question? What am I supposed to have in common with males who identify as women?

Oof, I stand corrected. Now I’m not sure whether it’s an oversight or something a lot more sinister. And that’s pretty scary isn’t it🙁

Oh you want a sensible discussion now? A bit of a departure from the 'No debate' stance that TRAs have consistently advocated for years? Were the masked nut jobs screaming vitriolic abuse outside venues where woman tried to discuss some very valid concerns around safeguarding, single sex spaces, protection of women's sports etc there for sensible discussion???

@justteanbiscuits
My intention was not to equate trans rights activism with this ideology. It was to point out a political symbol that lots of people would be very very much against and see as a very strong negative that they wouldn't want to influence children with whether the children understood it or not.

Trans activism is obviously a contentious issue and a very large number of people and women's rights activists are against it and see it as anti-female. The movement pushes for a lot of rights that females had to go to places where men can't be to be removed - for example, the right for women who are incarcerated to not be incarcerated with prisoners who are male.

The prime minister of the UK has agree that he does not think females have penises. This flag that has been put in the middle of this sticker and represents an ideology opposed to that and that many women's rights groups are fighting against.

That is why I made the analogy.

What am I supposed to have in common with males who identify as women?

Honest answer? Self-image, I think. Transwomen, for whatever reason, see themselves as women. Most women also see themselves as women (unless they're one of our many friends' daughters who now think they're boys).

No it's honestly not. I wanted other peoples opinions. It's clearly a controversial topic. As we can see. I did not expect this level of response honestly

I'll take that over paranoia and hysteria, thanks.

I don’t get why you see that some males are a problem but then don’t recognise that a movement that puts the wants and needs of males over women’s rights isn’t an issue. By allowing any male to self identify himself into women’s spaces, you are allowing those toxic men an easy loophole to exploit. How do you know which are the fluffy, safe, friendly TW and how are just the abusive men taking advantage of the situation.

Because you’d have to be blind to have not noticed the massive increase in abusive men in women’s clothing recently.

Women having spaces away from all males - the good, the bad, the ones identifying as women, the ones who lie that they identify as women, the fucking NB ones who insist on using women’s spaces - is a small way we can protect ourselves from all toxic males.

Where have I accused anyone of being triggered? Or name called? Or thrown the word nazi around?

On MN alone, I have been accused of being a child abuser, told I should have my children taken away, been told I'm probably not female, been told I'm not feminist, been sworn at and name called.

Unfortunately in everything there are the extreme edges. I don't agree with those people at all. I do, how ever, believe that with discussion a middle ground can be found. I want real trans women and trans men to be as safe as I want women to be. I fight for increased and improved support for those questioning their gender - for meaningful counselling to ensure that young people don't make mistakes that will affect them for life.

Women were crying out for years to have a discussion about possible ways forward eg third spaces. The response was #nodebate, “die in a grease fire”, our meetings picketed by shouting men, and threats of violence. In a particular egregious show of cuntery when Magdalen berns died, they celebrated posting pictures of dancing skeletons,
TW who did not condone this behaviour were branded as scum by TRA

so funnily enough Im not remotely interested now in compromising with men who behave like that

too Fucking late!!

@PingoDome

It's all a bit circular, isn't it? Why do they see themselves as women and why should I accept that it's the same feeling I have as an actual female woman? (Rhetorical questions, I know you are just suggesting what they have in common)

Equating it with a Tory sticker would have been much more appropriate.