Trans/pride flag in children's stickers

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This was included in a pack of squishmallow stickers... why???
AIBU or is this totally wrong ??

Isla Bryson also fine. Barbie Kardashian also ok.
Oh and those on the fb page This Never Happens, too.

But otherwise, it's all fine.

Back to that true trans test again.

In the meantime I'd prefer to keep all Males out even the lovely tw like @justteanbiscuits relative out of our spaces.

Women and girls deserve better, so much better.

@itsfinallytime the poster you've quoted is perfect evidence of their demands of hierarchy and the pathetic 'no true trans' crap!

Ah yes, the historical records from before writing was invented.

No ta. I don’t engage with the batshittery on that side either.

He is a transwoman

In your mind, What is a “transwoman” then? Don’t you see this is all semantics? We are so angry over semantics.

No (sane) trans woman would claim their body is the same as yours. So why are we arguing? Can’t we agree we have different bodies, but we all have the right to live our lives in a way that feels authentic to us, with dignity and respect?

You (perhaps) say that “a transwoman” is not “a woman” because “a woman” is defined by her (female) body, but trans women point out that women - as we live in the world- are actually defined by so much more than this. This is a true fact.

People see me and relate to me everyday as a woman, they know very little about what genitalia I have.

Not to mention that there is so much variation across female bodies. Not all of us have ovaries, not all of us have wombs, some of us have lots of body hair etc etc.

trans women point out that women - as we live in the world- are actually defined by so much more than this. This is a true fact.

What are "we" defined by as women then? What do I as a woman have in common with all women as well as a group of males who identify as women?

Not all women, I beg your pardon. I obviously don't have those things in common with those female people who reject their sex.

Hystorectimies, mastectomies amd things like pcos that cause excess hair are all exclusively female conditions/surgeries

@justteanbiscuits what you said was reasonable and rational ❤️, dont worry about the vitriol and accusations being hurled your way.

I'm not defined by my female body, it's just my sex. It's one of the things which define me, and a relatively important one. We could sort the world by whether you have an innie or an outie belly button, alternatively, but it wouldn't be quite as meaningful.

In my mind a transwoman is a man. Nothing more nothing less just a man.

so he can use mens spaces and enter mens sports and go in mens prisons.

everyday people look at you, recognise and relate to you as a woman without scrutinising what chromosomes or genitalia you have.

To claim a category like "woman" is only semantics is only semantics if you yourself never have the need for devices directed only at women that specifically need protecting from men being allowed in.

For example, male teachers being allowed or not allowed to sleep in female only accommodation with primary schools girls on a week long camp.

This question is academic unless you're one of those primary school girls or people who care about them.

The men teaches who aren't allowed in that accommodation aren't claiming male-phobia or that all men are being accused of being abusers. It's a safeguarding issue and it's not semantics at all.

Lovely bright colourful sticker

Hopefully these children won't grow into phobic adults

In my mind a transwoman is a man. Nothing more nothing less just a man

exactly! So you are erasing, denying the experience/
reality of trans people. This is transphobia!

Saying that no trans woman has harmed a woman is neither reasonable nor rational and nor is it true.

@Tandora are you saying that none of the trans women I mentioned are genuine trans women?

And are you saying that women & girls being harmed by TW, sometimes in what should be single sex spaces , Katy Dolotowki harmed girls in the women's toilets in a Morrisons Supermarket and Karen White in a women's are prison are acceptable collateral damage?

In my mind a transwoman is a man. Nothing more nothing less just a man.

so he can use mens spaces and enter mens sports and go in mens prisons.

Exactly. It's not a value judgement, or a personal insult. There's nothing wrong with being male. I just don't consider males to be women. It's a category error.

My son had a labour sticker on his lunchbox while in primary school. He wanted it on there. Was I indoctrinating him?

And nice to throw accusations like "triggered" around. And people wonder why there is no possibility of sensible discussion of trans issues in order to find a safe middle ground.

It's not uniquely damaging to girls. I don't want my DS getting his willy cut off when he's older either, thanks.
Either way people can say what they like; biological reality won't change.

I supposed it would be transphobic to prevent a trans woman teacher from sleeping in a girls dorm.

What I want to know is why that is safe but a male with a DBS wouldn't be?

@Tandora what's reasonable and rational about saying all transwomen are harmless? People have given examples to the contrary. How is that vitriolic?

Though to be fair you've danced around and deflected pretty much all of the reasonable questions put to you, so I won't hold my breath on this one.

Thank you for continuing to shine unintended light on this madness though.

exactly! So you are erasing, denying the experience/
reality of trans people. This is transphobia!

I guess that's too bad, given that they can't change people's beliefs and understanding of reality by fiat, and it's what most of the world believes. It's your ideology, not mine.

Anyway I’m out, because this is going nowhere and the level of ignorance and transphobia and denial of the existence and realities of trans people is just making me so sad, angry and depressed.

I know but the impact on girls is wider reaching given the erosion of their single sex spaces.