Trans/pride flag in children's stickers

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This was included in a pack of squishmallow stickers... why???
AIBU or is this totally wrong ??

Right. Exactly.

Are you willing to share any?

Yes I agree with you about GIDS, it is criminal.

I think you are being quite rude about my use of "gender ideology", it is a catch-all term.

Of course they can. No one is stopping them. What they can't do is gatecrash women's single sex spaces, women's refuges and rape crisis shelters, women's breastfeeding groups, women's short lists, women's sports, women's prisons, lesbian groups etc etc. And they can't insist we all agree that they are actual women under the threat of criminal law.
Other than that crack on with performing any feminine stereotypes that make you happy.

Why is this so fucking hard for people (especially those with PhD's who can't seem to answer direct questions) to understand?

OK boiled, no fucking swearing. And no fucking riffing phrases to amplify Magdalen Berns!

Gosh, let's hope no one mentions cocks being fucking chopped off! Otherwise we would have to post that phrase too.

It’s not a “catch all term”. It’s an offensive use of language deployed by (so-called) “gender critical feminists” to imply that being trans is an “ideology” rather than an actual (legitimate) human experience. Theres nothing scientific about it and therefore would rarely be used/ recognised in a scientific paper, other than an isolated few generally not credited papers.

Prey Lord what are “gender ideology” papers

Those would be papers which support your ideological worldview that males can be considered "women". As opposed to ones which do not. Happy to help.

Obviously it’s not ok to say that about anyone. That’s fucking revolting and unacceptable. I can happily hate that ideology, but I don’t think I hate the person, anymore than I hate the PP blowing the dog whistle for trans / MAP. Shitty ideology, shitty person. But do I hate them? Nope.

I also don’t disagree that there are problems with the erosion of safe spaces and women’s sex-based rights. I don’t believe in gender stereotypes, either, and have concerns about the over prevalence of SEN in the gender confused. But I also believe gender dysmorphia is a thing and that trans people are treated horrifically in many places.

But this is Mumsnet - unless you are full on TERF, you are brainwashed with internalised misogyny, so as you were.

Q.E.D

Gay people exist. Gay children exist. Trans people exist. It's a sticker. yabvu

Helle, you spoil all my Fucking fun!

(So I can't say "there no such thing as a lesbian with a penis")

Thank you ❤️

Christ, we can't say ideology now? I must have missed the banned this week words list.

Also GIDS aren’t “criminal”. Just a very poor service, routed in outdated and unscientific practices.

I'll tell you what is offensive use of language men using the word woman to describe themselves.That is so Fucking offensive it's off the charts!

Nobody is born in the wrong body, people with gender dysphoria may exist but a person who is somehow really a woman but accidentally born a male do not, that is a dangerous fiction that should not be pandered to. Dysphoria means unease or dissatisfaction with life or some aspect of it or our ourselves. Most people experience that feeling but we don't use it to trample all over the rights of an entire sex or to erode the boundaries and safety of women and children?

imply that being trans is an “ideology” rather than an actual (legitimate) human experience

Thinking you "feel" like you think the opposite sex "feels" and that you should actually be considered as the opposite sex may be a legitimate human experience, but that doesn't mean it is objectively correct that people "are" the opposite sex, or that their presumed opposite sex identity should be meaningful to others in any sense. Particularly when it affects the rights of those others.

Yes my transphobia was pointing out the harms of 'the right side of history' on female children.

My transphobia and ignorance was simply pointing this out.

It was a post aimed at me that was deleted. Not at my request as it happens.

I don't agree with Tandora although I respect Tandora's right to an opinion. It's a shame that doesn't go both ways because what I see is Tandora calling concerned mothers bigots and Tandora claiming to be a feminist whilst dismissing the impacts of their beliefs on females as transphobia.

Where Tandora appears to get confused is by saying those of us who question Tandora's beliefs are harrassing them.

It is not OUR fault that Tandora's belief system has more holes in it than swiss cheese and that we want to point this out on a public forum.

Of course believing in an innate gender identity that everyone has which is based on sex stereotypes and which can end up in the wrong sex body is a fucking ideology, stop being disingenuous please.

It’s not offensive to be a transwoman. Suggesting that it is a offence to merely exist as a trans person, is the definition of transphobia. It also displays a gross ignorance of what it is/means to be trans. I’m sure someone will come along and say I’m “abusive” for saying this, but it’s the truth and it is imperative to call it out.

I will be pointing out the shortcomings of Tandora's and others' ideological worldview for as long as it remains necessary.

Being trans is not an ideology.

Of course, but should female children have to share single sex spaces such as toilets and changing rooms in schools with male children who say that they are trans girls?

Do you think female children are less important than trans girls ?

Because that looks a lot like misogyny to me.

The only 'truth' is that men cannot become women. Simple as.

The idea of an opposite sex gender identity is an ideology. Believing I should see males as women is an ideology.

Suggesting that it is a offence to merely exist as a trans person, is the definition of transphobia

literally no one has said this but I see we’ve reach the hyperbole stage