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To ask what should happen now? DD attacked by other students

433 replies

RainInNovember · 06/11/2023 12:31

DD is 15, shes had a few issues with people, got into a few arguments, nothing major and mainly over whatsapp etc, she does seem to get involved in the drama. But a lot of her friends are similar and there are often fallings out but then friends again the next week.

I just had a message from dd at school. she said two girls who she used to be friends with have waited outside her lesson for her and followed her. once she was on her own they put a coat over her head and started punching her in the head and pulling her hair and dragging her about.

she has told school and she said the girls are currently in isolation, I have called school who said they're investigating now and will call me back shortly.

I have never dealt with anything like this before. I just want to know what to expect and how seriously they should take it.

OP posts:
Facebookflight · 06/11/2023 18:55

I really hope you aren’t in Scotland OP. My child was in the same situation, attacked charged with assault, over the age of criminal liability, the only punishment
was a warning letter. School could not take any action whatsoever as the child was from a troubled background.

I wish you luck. Demand, demand, demand action.

starfishmummy · 06/11/2023 18:56

What have the police said, @RainInNovember?

RainInNovember · 06/11/2023 19:02

no im not in scotland. i will report what police said whem they get back to me

OP posts:
Climbingthehillfast · 06/11/2023 19:03

Definitely tell the police. Tough shit if the girl wants to study law. She should have thought about it before committing assault ….IF it is even true.

Nicole1111 · 06/11/2023 19:03

RainInNovember · 06/11/2023 17:10

not happy though i told school id be contacting police and they said of course thats my prerogative but the girl wants to study law and this might impact her future

ok??

Oh look, a meaningful consequence for the bully’s actions. Bet she hasn’t had one of those before. What a great time to get one

whynotwhatknot · 06/11/2023 19:04

poor thing beating people up but wanting to study law

tough shit

JANEY205 · 06/11/2023 19:07

RainInNovember · 06/11/2023 18:14

thanks, this is true. why would they tell me about the girls intention to study law if not to dissuade me from reporting

I am RAGING on your behalf OP! How dare they! Why should anyone give a crap about this girls future desire to study law when she didn’t? Your daughter was attacked by these two horrible girls. They didn’t give a shit about whether she would be too scared to keep coming to school and continue her studies did they?

Attacking someone with physical violence at the age of 15 wouldn’t make you a good fit for law anyway so better the dopey girl finds out now.

JANEY205 · 06/11/2023 19:08

Climbingthehillfast · 06/11/2023 19:03

Definitely tell the police. Tough shit if the girl wants to study law. She should have thought about it before committing assault ….IF it is even true.

Exactly! How is it relevant to OP and how would the school even know this 😂 Sounds like BS!

GoGoGo2 · 06/11/2023 19:09

OP really sorry to hear that your daughter has gone through this
Thinking of you, hoping you manage to navigate this and report to Police ok. Definitely sounds like the best course of action. I have no words for the girls that did this to your daughter

TeaGinandFags · 06/11/2023 19:11

101 is the non emergency number for the local police. Chances are you'll get an ansaphone so say somethinh like dd ambushed and assaulted. They will call you back. The method used suggests that they've done this before - and will do it again. They knew what they were doing.

There should be CCTV around the school and the shops will have cameras. If residential area then from people's houses. Knock on doors when people are at home. Leave it too long and the footage will be lost.

Tandora · 06/11/2023 19:11

ExperiencedTeacher · 06/11/2023 18:49

OP, it sounds like you’ve been very reasoned and I really hope your DD is ok. What a horrible situation.

These situations do arise in schools and, contrary to popular belief on here, the vast majority of schools do try to manage them with the best interests of all concerned at the heart of decision making.

To those criticising the school for not contacting the police themselves, it is generally the expectation that the victim logs a complaint of assault unless they aren’t able to. I welcome parents doing so although almost always the police come back with “this is a school matter”. This isn’t about schools trying to save their reputations necessarily, just that resources are stretched and we know the response we are likely to get.

obviously every situation is unique and this may not be relevant to OPs case but this has been my experience.

almost always the police come back with “this is a school matter”

how exactly is criminal assault a “school matter”?

CommonOrNot · 06/11/2023 19:14

Sorry I’ve not rtft but you’ve left your daughter in school after she’s been attacked long enough to ponder calling the school? She’s text you? And you’ve accepted the school are “investigating it”???

you should have been down there like a shot first of all. That’s before you even think about dealing with it. Call the bloody school? Wow.

JANEY205 · 06/11/2023 19:16

CommonOrNot · 06/11/2023 19:14

Sorry I’ve not rtft but you’ve left your daughter in school after she’s been attacked long enough to ponder calling the school? She’s text you? And you’ve accepted the school are “investigating it”???

you should have been down there like a shot first of all. That’s before you even think about dealing with it. Call the bloody school? Wow.

RTFT ffs!!or don’t comment. It’s not hard.

GoGoGo2 · 06/11/2023 19:16

Can you ask the school to permanently exclude the two girls?
Otherwise this will potentially have a massive impact on your daughter's GCSE year. She won't be able to perform at her usual standard if she is having to keep an eye out for attackers.

Sod the two attacker's.

CaroleSinger · 06/11/2023 19:17

RainInNovember · 06/11/2023 17:10

not happy though i told school id be contacting police and they said of course thats my prerogative but the girl wants to study law and this might impact her future

ok??

Oh well, the first thing you learn about law is that actions have consequences...

Womencanlift · 06/11/2023 19:17

CommonOrNot · 06/11/2023 19:14

Sorry I’ve not rtft but you’ve left your daughter in school after she’s been attacked long enough to ponder calling the school? She’s text you? And you’ve accepted the school are “investigating it”???

you should have been down there like a shot first of all. That’s before you even think about dealing with it. Call the bloody school? Wow.

Why comment if you have not read the thread? Things have moved on significantly which you would know if you had at least read the OP’s posts

CommonOrNot · 06/11/2023 19:18

JANEY205 · 06/11/2023 19:16

RTFT ffs!!or don’t comment. It’s not hard.

Read the comment that I’ve just said I’ve not rtft.

I read far enough to know OP called the school and they said they were investigating it. Simmer down.

WearyAuldWumman · 06/11/2023 19:19

JANEY205 · 06/11/2023 19:08

Exactly! How is it relevant to OP and how would the school even know this 😂 Sounds like BS!

Given that the school has now issued minimal sanctions, their parents will have been called. I suspect that the 'but she wants to study law' whine has come from an entitled mummy who thinks that this will help her little darling escape the consequences of her actions.

ExperiencedTeacher · 06/11/2023 19:20

Tandora · 06/11/2023 19:11

almost always the police come back with “this is a school matter”

how exactly is criminal assault a “school matter”?

I’ve asked the same question when dealing with these matters in schools. I don’t have an answer for you. This is simply what I’ve been told by my local constabulary as an assistant headteacher

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itsalongwaybackfromsorry · 06/11/2023 19:29

nopuppiesallowed · 06/11/2023 17:44

If I was in Tesco and some 'friends ' attacked me in the same way as those girls attacked your daughter, the police would be called pretty jolly quickly.
I hope that your daughter recovers quickly and makes a new set of close friends, that her attackers are expelled to different schools and that the school makes sure that all pupils are taught about bullying and warned of the consequences.

Absolutely.

why one earth do we expect children and teens to be violently assaulted at school and to carry on as if nothing happened and the perpetrator's hands metaphorically slapped, when in the rest of the world there would be police involvement and actual consequences.

Call the police.

itsalongwaybackfromsorry · 06/11/2023 19:34

RainInNovember · 06/11/2023 18:14

thanks, this is true. why would they tell me about the girls intention to study law if not to dissuade me from reporting

That is exactly why they told you. And they shouldn't have. It's irrelevant.

What's relevant is that your daughter was violently assaulted at school. End of.

anyolddinosaur · 06/11/2023 19:35

Teenagers frequently change their minds about what they want to do - if this is even accurate and not just an attempt to put you off calling the police. 15 is well past the legal age of criminal responsibility and even further past the age when kids should learn violence is not acceptable. Any honest school should cover this behaviour in a university reference anyway.

The punishment the school is imposing does not reflect the crime. If it's in line with school policy then the policy needs to change. As governors are usually responsible for school policies I would be thinking about a complaint to them, but I'd probably want a meeting with the head to discuss the assault and future safeguarding first.

crazyBadger · 06/11/2023 19:44

My son was recently punched in the face mid lesson (he still has no idea why, hes a quiet lad with ASD, doesn't even know the name of the lad that hit him)

Please call police - we did an online form first, this was the fourth time he had been attacked at school although the school preferred we used the term "incident"

The police were great they went into the school, spoke with the boy his parents and staff.

They are also keeping in touch with the school to keep an eye on decreasing behaviour the er doctor we say said it was the second student from his school she had seen that day.

The school were far more interested in not recording it as bulling rather calling it an incident, us and the police called it what it was an assault that occured during a staffed lesson where he should have been completely safe.

The lad was suspended for a day and a half and we were told he would be removed from all my child's lessons (gsce classes) the police said the school were trying to expell but it was difficult.

Without police involved the school would have done very very little other than another meeting saying how sorry that this has happened.