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Who actually benefits from changing the clocks?

593 replies

shockwaze · 31/10/2023 06:13

Kids up at 5:30. Pretty sure that the same thing has happened in many, many houses this morning.

It's just an hour, but so disruptive to children.

Who benefits? Winds me up every year.

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BitofaStramash · 31/10/2023 07:11

Look at it another way.

This is the time it's supposed to be. GMT.

Each year the clicks are changed for an hour in the summer time. To make the most of the daylight hours. BST

Who benefits from that?

All you southerners sitting in your back gardens in the evening having bbqs and drinking pimms

We could leave it at GMT all year round

CesareBorgia · 31/10/2023 07:13

Mrsjayy · 31/10/2023 07:07

This used to be a thing different times Doesn't really work though.

It was the advent of the railways and industrialisation that brought standardised time to the UK. Before the Industrial Age, each town would work to its own time based on sunrise and sunset.

JethroTullandhishorse · 31/10/2023 07:13

Jesus Christ. Stop fucking moaning.

Anyflippingname · 31/10/2023 07:13

Luckyduc · 31/10/2023 06:43

It's never had any effect on my child any years and he's now 8. Yiu adjust the bed time hour.
I see all these parents moan that their kid gets up at 6am....now 5am but why put them to bed so early? They need 12 hours sleep or if 8 years old between 10 and 12 hours so time their bedtime for when you want them to get up. If you want your kid to get up at 7am but them to bed 7pm. My kid always went to bed at 8pm and got up 8am. Never in my life did they get up early.

Well good for you but that's not everyone's experience. You just got lucky.

shockwaze · 31/10/2023 07:13

KaySararSarar · 31/10/2023 06:49

I saw some reel that said why not just change the clocks by 30 mins and leave them alone forever more - actually made sense to me…but I have been up super early sooo…

I could get behind a compromise like this. But which way would they change. Can of worms

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Gettingbysomehow · 31/10/2023 07:13

I hate it. I have to drive home from work in the pitch dark through miles of Somerset country lanes. I.m surprised I haven't ended up in a ditch.

fearfuloffluff · 31/10/2023 07:14

I think it's a bit magic, like a national piece of performance art or a dance or something. Right everyone, let's just change the time!

I have kids who randomly get up at 5 anyway so doesn't bother me that much.

CheeseCakeSunflowers · 31/10/2023 07:14

Thanks for all the farmer love but my farmer is currently still snoring away upstairs. The clock change makes no difference to him, he doesn't keep office hours. In the summer when he needs to mow with the dew on the grass he gets up early, this time of year between harvest and the cattle coming into their winter housing is the easiest time of year for us when maintenance jobs get done so no rush to get up. Its daylight and the weather that controls farmers hours, nothing to do with clocks.

Mrsjayy · 31/10/2023 07:14

CesareBorgia · 31/10/2023 07:13

It was the advent of the railways and industrialisation that brought standardised time to the UK. Before the Industrial Age, each town would work to its own time based on sunrise and sunset.

Yes of course,I probably should have elaborated a bit more on my post.

MrsRachelDanvers · 31/10/2023 07:15

I’d love it to be summer time all year round. I hate the dark evenings-and all those kids who would be walking to school in the dark now have to walk from school in the dark. Ugh.

grottyb · 31/10/2023 07:15

Well good for you but that's not everyone's experience. You just got lucky

And you obviously got unlucky 🤷🏻‍♀️

howtheheck123 · 31/10/2023 07:16

@shockwaze ugh colds are grim esp for the kids, we all have chesty coughs at moment. That makes me feel better that she should readjust....fingers crossed!

CesareBorgia · 31/10/2023 07:17

MrsRachelDanvers · 31/10/2023 07:15

I’d love it to be summer time all year round. I hate the dark evenings-and all those kids who would be walking to school in the dark now have to walk from school in the dark. Ugh.

Do they, though? Round here the schools seem to finish about 3pm - it's not dark then even in midwinter.

shockwaze · 31/10/2023 07:17

I'm in trouble with my husband for 'shouting' FUCK OFF when I heard the first child and checked my clock.

'Raises the temperature' apparently.

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HughCanoe · 31/10/2023 07:18

shockwaze · 31/10/2023 06:28

They'll be walking home in the dark anyway. Makes no difference

I'm in northern Scotland. It does make a difference.

grottyb · 31/10/2023 07:18

All you southerners sitting in your back gardens in the evening having bbqs and drinking pimms

I don’t mind if they stay were they are, as summer evenings are pretty long.

howtheheck123 · 31/10/2023 07:20

@Luckyduc right then. Erm cos some of us try to do that and our child has other ideas. They are people too you know.

Copperoliverbear · 31/10/2023 07:20

I think it's so older children do not have to go to school in the dark and come home in the dark. X

grottyb · 31/10/2023 07:21

I hate the dark evenings-and all those kids who would be walking to school in the dark now have to walk from school in the dark. Ugh.

Where does the sun set at 3-3:30?

Hippomumma · 31/10/2023 07:21

As someone who lives in Scotland, Scotland as a whole doesn’t necessarily benefit to those saying it does. The north of Scotland perhaps, but a huge number of us live closer to the North of England than to parts of the North of Scotland.

OP - I’m with you. 5.30am and stinking colds here. Managed to get the 3 month old back to sleep for an hour today but 2 yo wanted to play!

grottyb · 31/10/2023 07:21

They are people too you know.

😆😆

GRex · 31/10/2023 07:22

allsfairin · 31/10/2023 07:11

What, you think there is electric lighting in the fields, do you?

What a silly thing to be winging about - of course not all other countries do it, the further you are from the equator, the shorter your daylight hours become - many countries don't have the difference that we do.

The morning rush hours are lighter, the accident numbers go down, especially among school children, many of whom are still going to be home befor dark in the evening for most of the year.

Farmers are more able to time their day to make good use of daylight, without being totally out of synch with the rest of society.

I can't believe anyone begrudges an hour for farmers, and I can't believe anyone feels that this is a genuine hardship.

Get over it.

Some people just don't have enough to worry about

These arguments have always been ridiculous.

  1. Farmers can set an alarm and get up at whatever time they choose, they don't need the whole country to get up or go to bed later. Farmers don't get up earlier when I have calls with Australia for work, nor stay up late because I need to talk to the US team at work, I shouldn't need to adjust my hours for them either.
  2. By December we have a little over 8 hours of light. If the light is given to the morning so it's light before 8 for kids to go to school, then it'll be dark before 4 when they are travelling home from school. And more tired.
AlltheFs · 31/10/2023 07:23

Me.
I like GMT, BST fucks with my body clock.

DD hasn’t woken early ever. She’s a night owl.

But I don’t mind staying on GMT forever. But you can shove BST as I hate it.

Mumtime2 · 31/10/2023 07:24

The people who work all day and enjoy being outdoors and going to the beach.parks.
No teveryone wants to live indoors in the dark in nearly summer here.
Also my work start earlier in daylight savings because we can get on with it in daylight.
Love it.

PuppyMonkey · 31/10/2023 07:25

My dog likes to have his tea at 5pm. He knows the time and starts “looking” at me when it gets to 5pm. You should have seen his face on Sunday when it got to what he thought was 5pm and it was actually only 4pm. It was like Hmm and Confused all rolled into one.

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