AIBU to say Taylor Swift is a once in a generation songwriter?

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I’ve had 1989 TV on all day and she’s just magic 🥰

No, she's like Ed Sheeran

Once in a generation is more like Kanye

I think Ed Sheeran is a better songwriter (but I’d rather see Taylor Swift live)

I took my DDs to the cinema to see her Eras Movie and was very impressed. She wasn’t really on my radar before but obviously has been around a long time, has written lots of songs I have known and liked over the years and has an amazing stamina to put on such a long and engaging show.

This is a lyric for tall girls!

taylor swift is 5 ft 9, I’m 6 feet tall. There’s a specific adolescent misery that comes with being inches taller than every other girl you know when the in thing is to be sexy baby (that’s a 30 Rock reference that Liz Lemon fans will know). Always awkward, oversized, too much, unfeminine, unable to fit in. I understand the feeling too well…!

In this house we don’t support anti-semites

I see people call her bland on mumsnet a lot and I just wonder if those using that word have ever actually listened to some of her lyrics, because it’s such an inapt descriptor!

I agree OP I think she’s great. And the people that say “I’ve never heard one of her songs” I’m pretty sure they’d recognise some if they heard them!

She is terribly boring. I especially can't listen to her on a bad day. It makes it worse.

I think you either love Taylor Swift and appreciate her sing writing, or you don't understand her. I don't think there's much of an inbetween

A lot of people think her music is mostly the poppy boppy songs that are released on the radio, but Folklore and Evermore are just like poetry.

There's very few singers that give me that 'punch in a gut' feeling like Taylor Swift does. I used to think it was because I related to the songs having grown up alongside them at similar ages to her, but songs like Epiphany and My Tears Ricochet are just another level of clever. I think she's brilliant.

I agree with you OP for what it's worth. I think she's amazing.

I wouldn't go and see Kanye West if he was performing at the bottom of my garden.

But the way she words things sometimes just sounds so … juvenile!

Like in cardigan - one of my favourite songs of hers, the line: “and when I felt like I was an old cardigan under someone’s bed, you put me on and said I was your favourite” similarly to the sexy baby line; I totally get the feeling she’s trying to illustrate, I just think it’s a very ‘12 year old’ way to phrase it

Same with most of her songs really - which is why I think she appeals to many 12 year olds

Nothing wrong with her appealing to a certain demographic on purpose of course - I just don’t think it makes her a ‘once in a generation’ kind of talent

Interesting lyrics but I find her songs very dull from the music / tune point of view. It all seems to have a range of about three notes, and her voice is forgettable. Not for me but I accept she is highly respected and hugely popular. I also think she is a positive role model for young girls.

YANBU! She's awesome. So incredibly talented.

People dismiss her because she makes pop music and because she's a young woman. But her songs are consistently brilliant and her lyrics are incredible. Not to mention her business acumen. And her record-breaking tour. And taking on the people who sold her masters.

She's brilliant.

Haven't heard 1989 TV yet... I love 1989 so I'm hoping the re-records are as close to the originals as possible.

I agree OP I generally love her songs and sing along all the time

Yes I agree. I don’t necessarily love her but you only have to see the effect of her music. Look at the sales of her records. Look at her concerts in the US so far.

dspite filling out stadiums thousands of people were standing outside singing along. The local areas of the stadiums were reporting huge boosts in things like hotels and restaurants.

you can not like someone’s music but still see that they’ve very very influential

I agree 100%, OP! I can't wait to see her next summer either. Went to the Eras film two weeks ago and it was a joy. Boy are we all in for a treat.

Many of her lyrics give me goosebumps and move me to tears again and again; they are so perceptive, accurate, wise, witty... I think she's no less than a lyrical genius.

If people haven't heard her music, then they can't ever go into a shop! People might not know that they've heard her, but I would be very surprised if they actually haven't...

It's not my favourite kind of music, so I wouldn't say I'm a fan - but I think she has a lot about her - she's amazing with her fans, she's a very astute business woman, and clearly she is very talented. She's faced so much - she was only 19 I think, when Kanye disrupted the award ceremony. She has had more negative press stories than probably anyone else of her generation other than the royal family - yet she has created an incredible career despite all that.

I think she's quite remarkable, personally - in a good way.

Absolutely OP

"How'd we end up on the floor anyway
You say
Your roommate's cheap ass screw top rose, that's how
I see you every day now..."

Ah, man, the rubies that I gave up...

I'm so glad we have Kendrick Lamar on 1989 TV too. 🎤Oh wait, you got amnesia? 😂🎤

And the history of The Last Great American Dynasty....

I started a thread about the cinema concert, few posters thought I was nuts.

I like to direct people to this quiz

https://www.buzzfeed.com/taylorswiftmidnights/evermore-edition-taylor-swift-or-shakespeare

I agree OP. Few pop stars have her lyrical abilities and songwriting skills, and the fact that she writes her own music is often overlooked. Fair enough if you don’t like the music, but you can’t deny she’s talented.

The thread I started, my sanity was questioned for crying at a song. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I completely agree!
The lyrics lack a certain polish. If you look at lyrics, from, say London Grammar they're very poetic. Taylor just puts sentences to music.

I like Taylor Swift but in a catchy, distraction background music kind of way. The way I read trash romance novels they're not great literature just easy to mindlessly consume. She's a great songwriter if Stephanie Meyer is a great author.

And I admire her work ethic! She works super hard and doesn't shit on her fans (looking at you Adele).

I think she's amazing, OP.

She's super talented, driven, massively intelligent, a brilliant business woman, fantastic role model.

I think she is probably the female songwriter of her generation, yes.

Ed Sheeran is who I would put, talent wise, as her male solo artist equivalent.

(I'm 57 and love seeing talented people of all ages).

"And then it was bought by me" @EmmaEmerald. Gets me every time.

So so many.

I'm sorry I missed your film thread. I was on a high for days aftetwards.

Count yourself lucky. She's dreadful.