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To call the smallest bedroom the box room ??

112 replies

WouldyouThink · 25/10/2023 19:42

Because SIL has had a huge rant at me that I’m wrong to do so ??!!

I have a 4 bed house , The smallest room has a king size bed, wardrobe and 2 slim chest of drawers. We had been having a conversation and she said how they struggle for space I said ‘same for us especially with having the box room as our bedroom!’ Her face just froze and she told me I’m ‘entitled’ that they have a 3 bed where their smallest only fits a single bed and bedside cabinet in and how I’m privileged and she thought I’d be more aware and sensitive to others situations and not making out Im struggling for space too!!

I call it the box room but am I meant to say the smallest bedroom? I thought box room just meant smallest really ? She’s told dh in a text that she just can’t deal with us at the moment when they are struggling and we are competing ???

OP posts:
Nearlyspring23 · 25/10/2023 21:36

WouldyouThink · 25/10/2023 21:21

Sorry I do tend to focus on details and things (I have ASD) so that also probably hasn’t helped SIL as I probably sound insensitive when I don’t mean to be but every time I have a conversation (with anyone) I have a voice in my head saying at the same time ‘remember eye contact!’ , ‘say something similar to make it seem like you are listening’ , etc etc 🤦‍♀️😂

This is something I have had to learn the hard way.
I always thought that if I could contribute my own struggles to a ‘shared’ problem it was a great way to bond with someone. Apparently not!!
I have to work hard at hearing them rather than, honestly, just being pleased that I have something I can actually add to the conversation. I have come to understand this isn't a great way to respond to someone else’s stresses though, but often don’t realise I have done it till it is too late.

WouldyouThink · 25/10/2023 21:38

BrideToBe2313123 · 25/10/2023 21:33

OP regardless of the box room definition if your 'smallest' room is big enough for a king size and various other pieces of furniture... then the rest must be massive! No wonder your SIL is pissed off.
You are not struggling for space.
Were you just trying to keep conversation flowing by 'commiserating'?
Or did you genuinely think you were struggling for space?

Edited

Both - I was trying to have a conversation but also we do struggle for space, 2 of the dc also have asd like me one also adhd and they are hoarders ! So we just have lots of stuff which we can’t get rid of and with 7 people it’s just hectic. It’s not a big 4 bed, the bedrooms are good sizes but it’s not as if we have extra rooms or any good storage space really so it does feel to us like we are struggling a bit

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Fairospop22 · 25/10/2023 21:40

I can see how it would wind someone up. It’s not a friggin box room 🙄😂

StripyHorse · 25/10/2023 21:43

meganorks · 25/10/2023 20:28

This is like when my SIL kept complaining whilst they were renting (so they could have some completely unnecessary extensions to their gigantic house) that they were having to live in a '2 and a half bedroom house' because 'the third bedroom can hardly be considered a bedroom'. I pointed out to our husband that she was describing our house! I think she and got so used to having her rant with others who maybe have a similar set up to them, she hadn't realised she was basically complaining it was inhumane to have to live in a house very much like ours. Ditto, my DHs brother when he phoned to complain about how expensive the work they were having done was. It cost more than our whole house!

Insensitive the way she used it.

I have been known to say our house is more like 2.5 beds though because DD2's room is so small. We had to get a joiner friend of DHs to make a bed for the room because it was just that little bit too small to buy one from a shop. Even the smallest were a cm or 2 too big.

Itsbritneybitch22 · 25/10/2023 21:47

My box room fits a king size bed it’s still a small room.

YANBU.

Its not your fault you have a bigger house she’s being sensitive, you should be able to have a normal conversation without offending someone

BrideToBe2313123 · 25/10/2023 21:54

WouldyouThink · 25/10/2023 21:38

Both - I was trying to have a conversation but also we do struggle for space, 2 of the dc also have asd like me one also adhd and they are hoarders ! So we just have lots of stuff which we can’t get rid of and with 7 people it’s just hectic. It’s not a big 4 bed, the bedrooms are good sizes but it’s not as if we have extra rooms or any good storage space really so it does feel to us like we are struggling a bit

But in that case, you could have a mansion and still struggle. No house will be big enough for you. So it's really not the same situation!
Of course a whole house of ND people must be hard but you'll eventually have to do something about it or you will run out of space.
Most NT people don't have extra rooms solely for their stuff and storage space - again, people usually make their own and organise their stuff.
You have ASD so maybe it's hard to understand this but while neither you nor your SIL are 'wrong' I can see why she's hurt.
Next time, when people complain... just say 'oh dear that must be hard' and let them carry on talking. No need to add your own stuff.

I get that all this is hard, I generally don't try to contribute to convos I just let other people talk.

Runnerduck34 · 25/10/2023 21:56

Tbh I wouldnt necessarily refer to it as a small room in any context even if it is the smallest bedroom if you have a kingsize bed wardrobe and 2 chest of drawers in it, sounds like a good size double ( and defintely not a box room!) Why dont you just say my bedroom or if wanting to say how many bedrooms just say 4 and if necessary say they are all doubles. Honestly i wouldnt describe a room that size as the "smallest" room (and defintely not a box room) I can see why it upset your sil if she is struggling for space.

WhatsitWiggle · 25/10/2023 22:02

WouldyouThink · 25/10/2023 21:21

Sorry I do tend to focus on details and things (I have ASD) so that also probably hasn’t helped SIL as I probably sound insensitive when I don’t mean to be but every time I have a conversation (with anyone) I have a voice in my head saying at the same time ‘remember eye contact!’ , ‘say something similar to make it seem like you are listening’ , etc etc 🤦‍♀️😂

This is a common autistic trait .... showing empathy by saying "yes! I understand you, I have / have had the same problem! Let me tell you about it so you know I understand your problem"

Whereas what neurotypicals expect from empathy is "oh poor you, that must be so awful. Tell me all about it whilst I stay quiet and nod so you know I understand your problem".

BashfulClam · 25/10/2023 22:08

Ha ha love your definition of a box room. I grew up with the shitty box room (bloody cold and tint). I had a single bed, small wardrobe and a little desk and with that furniture there was barely space to turn around. It also had the stair bulkhead taking up a bit of space (that had been built into a cupboard so had pretty good storage as we put some wardrobe style rails in.

DaftQuestionForToday · 25/10/2023 22:09

WouldyouThink · 25/10/2023 21:38

Both - I was trying to have a conversation but also we do struggle for space, 2 of the dc also have asd like me one also adhd and they are hoarders ! So we just have lots of stuff which we can’t get rid of and with 7 people it’s just hectic. It’s not a big 4 bed, the bedrooms are good sizes but it’s not as if we have extra rooms or any good storage space really so it does feel to us like we are struggling a bit

@WouldyouThink

Does your SIL know you have ASD?
is she usually a sensitive, kick off wuickly kind of person.

What you said was incorrect & insensitive, but from someone struggling with ASD it's not a big deal.

she would fall apart in any of my wider family meet ups.

Vinrouge4 · 25/10/2023 22:10

What alot of fuss over nothing.

TeeedleDum · 25/10/2023 22:20

Yes as PPs have said, a bedroom is only considered a box room if it can not fit a double bed. I believe the origin came from stately homes where such rooms would be used to keep luggage so they literally were box rooms.

2jacqi · 25/10/2023 22:23

I dont understand why you and your hubby are in the smallest bedroom??? do you have a heap of kids?

DragonflyLady · 25/10/2023 22:25

A box room doesn’t fit a king sized bed in!!

1983Louise · 25/10/2023 22:28

I'd freak her out, I call the cupboard under the stairs The Glory Hole, just like my Grandma did 😀

readbooksdrinktea · 25/10/2023 22:30

Pleasegodgotosleep · 25/10/2023 19:45

A box room doesn't fit a king sized bed!

Yeah, I'm definitely with SIL.

LeonBlack · 25/10/2023 22:33

I can’t imagine a world where this sort of conversation happens.

BarelyCoping123 · 25/10/2023 22:34

Your SIL is correct. Box room means very small bedroom

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 25/10/2023 22:36

Don’t think her reaction was the best to be fair, it’s just a misunderstanding no need for her to rang. A simple explanation would have been much better.

A box room is usually one that is just big enough to fit a bed and not much else.

I recently joked with my mum’s estate agent that her smallest bedroom (13ft x11ft) is a box room. He laughed and said it’s bigger than his primary bedroom (apparently not allowed to say master bedroom anymore🙄)

UnctuousUnicorns · 25/10/2023 22:37

"The smallest room has a king size bed, wardrobe and 2 slim chest of drawers"

😅😅😅 I slept in the box room as a child; it fitted a single bed and a chest of drawers, rammed hard against the side of the bed. Wardrobe? What's that? I had the fukkin' airing cupboard hard against the end of my bed!

Butchyrestingface · 25/10/2023 22:40

The smallest room has a king size bed, wardrobe and 2 slim chest of drawers.

Neither of my bedrooms would accommodate that amount of furniture.

Your "box" room sounds huge. I don't wonder the red mist came down for your SiL. Grin

LeonBlack · 25/10/2023 22:43

I have a friend that refers to one of their cars (a brand new Mini Cooper) as the ‘little station car’, ie her husband uses it only to drive to the station when it’s raining. As someone who has the same make and model, and it was not cheap, I feel somewhat patronised.

I can imagine the ‘box room’, is the same sort of thing. I still wouldn’t mention it though.

BogRollBOGOF · 25/10/2023 23:34

I could get a king size bed in DS's box room... if we took the radiator out and removed the door. There would be no functional floor space left over. We had to custom build a bed to fit it in and make effective use of the space. It is furnished with a bed and small wardrobe with doors arranged so that you can move around them without being too obstructed.

A box room is a small room that can just about function as a single bedroom with minimal furniture or smaller.

Her reaction was OTT though. It's a daft topic to get overly irate about.

MyBlueDiary · 25/10/2023 23:38

A box room is traditionally a very small room used for storage. It doesn’t just mean a small bedroom. Your SIL is right.

bridgetreilly · 25/10/2023 23:41

When I slept in the box room, my wardrobe had to go on the landing. You really do sound incredibly clueless and entitled OP.

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