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What is this new form of slobdom?

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Theokaycokey · 23/10/2023 21:17

Staying at a seaside resort in the UK. Large Hotel has a massive open atrium that is overlooked by hotel rooms and anyone walking along the promenade. The hotel restaurant is located smack bang in the middle of the atrium and is open to the reception area. I come down to breakfast this morning and a significant number of guests are sat in their pyjamas having their breakfast! Different families, all scattered around the restaurant or queuing at the breakfast buffet in their nightwear and fluffy slippers. This is the first time that I have come across this. Is it a relatively recent phenomenon?

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ShinyPikachu · 24/10/2023 00:01

And to think I once felt bad running down to a hotel bar for drinks for the room one evening when I didn't put my shoes on...

Airyfairy99 · 24/10/2023 00:03

What is a fanny waft ?

givemeasunnyday · 24/10/2023 00:03

RudsyFarmer · 23/10/2023 21:30

It’s a sign of poor social etiquette, probably a class signifier.

OMG - are you for real?

It's not something I would ever do, but I couldn't care less if anyone else appears in their nightwear. People with true class wouldn't turn a hair.

I judge people by how they treat - or speak of - others, not on what they wear.

FoodMishap · 24/10/2023 00:12

BeginningToLookALotLike · 23/10/2023 22:06

I mean, it says 'sleep' and not 'public hotel breakfast'...

Maybe she was dyslexic

Alixnpeppa · 24/10/2023 00:15

All this talk of unwashed bodies. I know many people who wash before bed at night, and unless you are someone who sleeps in a dirty bed or sweats at night, or doesn't wear deodorant before bed and in the morning or whatever you do, then that's perfectly fine and doesn't mean you stink in the morning.

givemeasunnyday · 24/10/2023 00:16

Honestly, having thread through some more posts on this thread, some of you are really living up to the idea people in other countries have about class obsessed UK. It's hilarious 😂

LeonBlack · 24/10/2023 00:18

It says a lot for some of the clientele. Bet they go to the supermarket and do the school run in PJs too.

OnlyTheBravest · 24/10/2023 00:23

I know I am being unreasonable but I can not stand this trend for wearing nightwear in public. My judgy pants are pulled right up, gives me the major ick every time. School gates, supermarkets, petrol stations nowhere is safe!

LaurieStrode · 24/10/2023 00:25

OnlyTheBravest · 24/10/2023 00:23

I know I am being unreasonable but I can not stand this trend for wearing nightwear in public. My judgy pants are pulled right up, gives me the major ick every time. School gates, supermarkets, petrol stations nowhere is safe!

I try to be charitable toward their ignorance but the constant lowering of standards is depressing. People used to aspire, now it's "exactly how low can I get away with being?" in just about every public circumstance.

Remember when Onslo was a caricature rather than a factual depiction of at least half of society?

Raisinganiguana · 24/10/2023 00:34

Eww that would put me off my meusli. Morning breath and fanny wafts

if your vagina smells that bad after a night see a doctor

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 24/10/2023 00:35

Oh darn

I never wash my nether regions before breakfast. I need to have had something to eat and a coffee before going there 🤣

Gallapentin · 24/10/2023 00:36

INeedAnotherName · 23/10/2023 23:48

I'm very ill/disabled but I wouldn't dream of leaving the house in pj's. And I'm hating pp using this to be nasty to other pp. Its uncalled for.

Bully for you, your illness/disability doesn’t affect you in that way- that doesn’t mean other people’s don’t.

Houseconundrum · 24/10/2023 00:37

Going by the majority of these comments I'm now genuinely wondering how much I was being judged by people after giving birth to my DD. I had been given morphine during the labour and it caused me to be violently sick, everywhere, seriously all over the room, midwives, everywhere to the point that even the changes of clothes I had in my bag with me somehow got sick on them and the midwife threw out the stuff that was covered the worst. Somehow only my pyjamas had avoided getting covered. We live almost 3 hours from the hospital, very rural, and so DH couldn't just nip home to get me clean clothes. He tried to get me some from the shops near the hospital but it was a Sunday and they were all shut and we needed to get home to our older children so we headed home with me in my pyjamas. On the way we had to stop to give the baby a break in the car and so I could go to the toilet and change my pad, living where we do options for this are limited so we had to stop at a nice café/diner type place. I felt mortified but I kept hoping that maybe people seeing that we had a tiny newborn baby with us might give a bit of a clue as to why I was wearing pyjamas (mickey mouse ones no less) in the middle of the day. Likely they probably just thought I was some shameless mum who couldn't care less about going out in public in my PJs.

As much as I hate the thought of others judging me for being out in my pyjamas, I genuinely couldn't care less what people are wearing. It doesn't make any difference to me if someone is doing their shopping in their jammies. Some of the comments on here though have been pretty awful, with some even describing people who wear pyjamas in public as an 'underclass', I mean FFS.

FoodMishap · 24/10/2023 00:37

@XenoBitch @FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper

this is actually a really interesting (and entertaining) thread. I have stage IV cancer, am very sick indeed, and have never heard of the spoon theory but it rings so true.

Last week I was in London for hospital appointment and staying at a relative’s house. I wore my long duvet coat ( a whole other thread on S&B!) over my pyjamas and trainers and shuffled around the local park as I was trying not to stay in bed & had neglected to bring any other clean clothes with me. The hospital appt clothes were washed and drying for the return journey. The pyjamas were fancy linen ones that cost more than most of my clothes, but I’m sure if anyone with certain opinions had noticed they would have been frothing at the mouth.

But I did not have the spoons to give.

Getting showered dressed and leaving the house takes so many spoons. I manage it maybe twice a week on a good week.

Raisinganiguana · 24/10/2023 00:41

@Crystal8559 is this misogynistic stories that never happened?

MaggieMayNotBe · 24/10/2023 00:42

Ykn · 23/10/2023 23:21

If it was Burnham on Sea, this is not surprising.

No, I was thinking Bradley Stoke, but this kind of thing wouldn't surprise me in Burnham or Weston either!

HRTQueen · 24/10/2023 00:45

how have we got to this, we have more clothes than ever, access to clean water yet some people can’t be arsed to be presentable a statement of what o don’t care or I want to look as I couldn’t give a shit

it’s just lazy and slobbish

jlpth · 24/10/2023 00:46

How do you know the “dressed” people haven’t slept in their clothes? If they banned PJs, this would be an easy way round it. A pair of plain leggings and t shirt doesn’t differ much from PJs but will pass as “dressed”

that said, wearing fluffy slippers outside where dogs might have shat is odd.

ShagratandGorbag4ever · 24/10/2023 00:47

LaurieStrode · 23/10/2023 22:48

How sad.

Dressing up for an evening at the theater is a great pleasure. What is it lately that people can't stand the idea of wearing tailored clothing, or anything without stretch fabric and an elastic waist?

I think some of them probably can't squeeze themselves into any garment with structure.

Gallapentin · 24/10/2023 00:51

FoodMishap · 24/10/2023 00:37

@XenoBitch @FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper

this is actually a really interesting (and entertaining) thread. I have stage IV cancer, am very sick indeed, and have never heard of the spoon theory but it rings so true.

Last week I was in London for hospital appointment and staying at a relative’s house. I wore my long duvet coat ( a whole other thread on S&B!) over my pyjamas and trainers and shuffled around the local park as I was trying not to stay in bed & had neglected to bring any other clean clothes with me. The hospital appt clothes were washed and drying for the return journey. The pyjamas were fancy linen ones that cost more than most of my clothes, but I’m sure if anyone with certain opinions had noticed they would have been frothing at the mouth.

But I did not have the spoons to give.

Getting showered dressed and leaving the house takes so many spoons. I manage it maybe twice a week on a good week.

Bollocks to anyone who judged you for doing what you needed to.

Getting showered dressed and leaving the house takes so many spoons. I manage it maybe twice a week on a good week.

It really does. People don’t like to see the reality of illness and disability, they prefer to minimise it and blame the person because they don’t want to accept that these things could come to any of us.

Ironically I would always be clean and dressed at a hotel breakfast because my carer (my wife) would be there to help me wash and dress- being up, dressed in nice clothes and clean is part of the treat of a hotel stay for me.

Raisinganiguana · 24/10/2023 00:52

I think some of them probably can't squeeze themselves into any garment with structure

fucking gross. Take a look at yourself and your values

VivienneDelacroix · 24/10/2023 00:52

I can't even go downstairs in my own house unless I'm showered and dressed. Sitting around in pyjamas makes me feel grubby.

LaurieStrode · 24/10/2023 00:56

ShagratandGorbag4ever · 24/10/2023 00:47

I think some of them probably can't squeeze themselves into any garment with structure.

Yes. I have noticed the correlation between the obesity epidemic and the lowering of standards of public attire.

Most people nowadays could not fit into the tailored clothing of the 1980s and 1990s.

I remember my mum taking me to Paris for my 16th birthday. We both got new outfits, which were fitted skirts, fitted tops, tailored jackets, tailored pants and lovely blouses. (When I think of it, she would only have been 40, and so petite).

We even wore the dresses for sight-seeing during the day, and changed for dinner in the evening. My mum was a clerk in an office, it's not as though we were from the landed gentry. But people had pride.

In the 90s I had a boyfriend who loved Vegas; we went about half a dozen times.

We would dress decently by day and in the evening go back to the hotel, shower and change for dinner and the evening out. I'd wear a cute short dress and he'd wear chinos and jacket, or a dark suit with open shirt and no tie. It was fun to dine at a good restaurant and then visit the tables at the upscale casinos. I went to Vegas a few years ago with my sister and it was just slob, slob, slob, everywhere.

givemeasunnyday · 24/10/2023 00:57

Raisinganiguana · 24/10/2023 00:52

I think some of them probably can't squeeze themselves into any garment with structure

fucking gross. Take a look at yourself and your values

Quite a number of posters on this thread don't have any values. Some of them are so up themselves, and for some obscure reason they think they are superior. I look down on them far more than I do someone who chooses to go to breakfast in their night attire. Speaking about others in such a judgemental way shows how little "class" they actually have.

FoodMishap · 24/10/2023 00:58

Gallapentin · 24/10/2023 00:51

Bollocks to anyone who judged you for doing what you needed to.

Getting showered dressed and leaving the house takes so many spoons. I manage it maybe twice a week on a good week.

It really does. People don’t like to see the reality of illness and disability, they prefer to minimise it and blame the person because they don’t want to accept that these things could come to any of us.

Ironically I would always be clean and dressed at a hotel breakfast because my carer (my wife) would be there to help me wash and dress- being up, dressed in nice clothes and clean is part of the treat of a hotel stay for me.

I think there are a great many people on this thread who would be very surprised indeed if they became seriously or chronically ill, & little by little ran out of spoons.

You never think it’s going to happen to you.