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What is this new form of slobdom?

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Theokaycokey · 23/10/2023 21:17

Staying at a seaside resort in the UK. Large Hotel has a massive open atrium that is overlooked by hotel rooms and anyone walking along the promenade. The hotel restaurant is located smack bang in the middle of the atrium and is open to the reception area. I come down to breakfast this morning and a significant number of guests are sat in their pyjamas having their breakfast! Different families, all scattered around the restaurant or queuing at the breakfast buffet in their nightwear and fluffy slippers. This is the first time that I have come across this. Is it a relatively recent phenomenon?

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Completelywornout · 24/10/2023 00:59

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Gallapentin · 24/10/2023 01:01

FoodMishap · 24/10/2023 00:58

I think there are a great many people on this thread who would be very surprised indeed if they became seriously or chronically ill, & little by little ran out of spoons.

You never think it’s going to happen to you.

Yep, all this “I’d never do” “I couldn’t do” etc- you could and you would if you didn’t have an alternative.

Being in a position where you get to choose is a matter of good fortune, not moral superiority.

JeanRondeausMadHair · 24/10/2023 01:04

LifesShortTalkFast · 23/10/2023 23:43

I understand that someone else's attire doesn't affect me and isn't any of my business

In theory I agree with this, but in practice I reserve the right to laugh my ass off at anyone older than a toddler shuffling around in public in their PJ's and fluffy slippers😂

What should we call this fashion trend? Care Home Chic? Convalescent Casual?

C'mon people, go the extra mile and pull on a pair of sweatpants🙄

Given-up-on-life-wear.

Brigitte57 · 24/10/2023 01:07

I’m fairly open minded when it comes to being a slob as I love my dressing gown but I’m just thinking of their skin particles falling onto the croissants… I imagine some people wear their PJs for many nights before they get a wash too.

Sorry about that image. 😂

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 24/10/2023 01:09

I refuse to believe most people change their PJs daily!

DeeCeeCherry · 24/10/2023 01:15

Breakfast amongst the great unwashed. No thanks, id have gone across the road to a cafe. Or maybe get takeaway stuff and bring up to my room

Gallapentin · 24/10/2023 01:18

DeeCeeCherry · 24/10/2023 01:15

Breakfast amongst the great unwashed. No thanks, id have gone across the road to a cafe. Or maybe get takeaway stuff and bring up to my room

Because you can be sure everyone in a cafe or takeaway is showered and in freshly laundered clothes can’t you.

Springforward1 · 24/10/2023 01:18

I've seen this behaviour in the best of hotels. When it happens the first thing that crosses my mind is those people feel they have a right to treat the place as if they have entered their own kitchen. Its like saying to every other guest I can do what I like here and in fact I hope you fully clothed people appreciate how I'm totally in my comfort zone & far more welcome here than you. All very interesting.
It's also imo extremely disrespectful to staff & guests alike.

MariaLuna · 24/10/2023 01:19

The people properly clothed are not necessarily clean.

Well, true, but going down in your PYJAMAS for breakfast?! In a public space?! Do they do their shopping like that too? Not great for the British Tourist Board advert lol.....

I live on the continent, you would never see that here, not even parents dropping their kids off to primary school. (I live nearby).

LifesShortTalkFast · 24/10/2023 01:20

Brigitte57 · 24/10/2023 01:07

I’m fairly open minded when it comes to being a slob as I love my dressing gown but I’m just thinking of their skin particles falling onto the croissants… I imagine some people wear their PJs for many nights before they get a wash too.

Sorry about that image. 😂

Around here it is de rigueur to wear said pajama pants low on the hips with the hem dragging the ground so you've got a few inches of dirt and grime as an added accessory😂

Hmmm. While I was typing this I had a vague memory of my mother yelling at me for wearing bell bottom jeans that were so long they would get grungy at the hem.

My God, my mother was right, people😳

Topsyturvy78 · 24/10/2023 01:22

I did in a onesie once but not in PJ's. I have considered taking my DS down for breakfast in their PJ's with him being a messy eater. But with it being a bit of a treck back to our room. I got some disposable aprons instead.

Mamai90 · 24/10/2023 01:53

I stay in hotels several times a year and I've never noticed this.

I wouldn't do it myself but I don't think I'd be overly bothered, bemused maybe. I do tend to bring my DD down in her pyjamas and slippers but she's not yet two.

StoneTheCrone · 24/10/2023 01:56

Ive never seen this near me (Midlands) but I do have a friend from Newcastle upon Tyne who's obsessed with pyjamas and wearing them all day around the house, which always strikes me as odd.

Rudderneck · 24/10/2023 02:00

FoodMishap · 24/10/2023 00:58

I think there are a great many people on this thread who would be very surprised indeed if they became seriously or chronically ill, & little by little ran out of spoons.

You never think it’s going to happen to you.

Do you really think this sudden upsurge in people wearing pjs in public is die to some kind of epidemic of illness?

If not it's pretty irrelevant.

Rudderneck · 24/10/2023 02:03

MariaLuna · 24/10/2023 01:19

The people properly clothed are not necessarily clean.

Well, true, but going down in your PYJAMAS for breakfast?! In a public space?! Do they do their shopping like that too? Not great for the British Tourist Board advert lol.....

I live on the continent, you would never see that here, not even parents dropping their kids off to primary school. (I live nearby).

No doubt that is somehow caused by British class snobs too.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 24/10/2023 02:10

In theory I agree with this, but in practice I reserve the right to laugh my ass off at anyone older than a toddler shuffling around in public in their PJ's and fluffy slippers😂

What should we call this fashion trend? Care Home Chic? Convalescent Casual?

C'mon people, go the extra mile and pull on a pair of sweatpants🙄

Given-up-on-life-wear.

I never thought I'd have to ask any adult this question, but do you realise that people who live in care homes and other medical/therapeutic accommodation, as well as disabled and very ill folk... are actually people?

They don't just live their lives to either diligently please you or otherwise to provide you with endless cheap entertainment at how hilariously useless, undignified and sub-human you may perceive them to be.

LaurieStrode · 24/10/2023 02:11

Exactly, @Rudderneck

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 24/10/2023 02:15

Do you really think this sudden upsurge in people wearing pjs in public is die to some kind of epidemic of illness?

If not it's pretty irrelevant.

We have no way of knowing, and neither do you; but there's a very high probability that a percentage of them could be, considering that a significant percentage of people in general are ill and disabled - and it's not currently illegal for disabled people to use hotels and want to eat meals there.

How low a number of disabled people's lives do you believe can be brushed away as statistically irrelevant and thus fair game to sneer at and mock?

Rudderneck · 24/10/2023 02:24

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 24/10/2023 02:15

Do you really think this sudden upsurge in people wearing pjs in public is die to some kind of epidemic of illness?

If not it's pretty irrelevant.

We have no way of knowing, and neither do you; but there's a very high probability that a percentage of them could be, considering that a significant percentage of people in general are ill and disabled - and it's not currently illegal for disabled people to use hotels and want to eat meals there.

How low a number of disabled people's lives do you believe can be brushed away as statistically irrelevant and thus fair game to sneer at and mock?

No.

It is true that occasionally someone may have invisible disabilities or illnesses that affect them.

There is not suddenly an upsurge of totally healthy looking people who are actually unable to manage to get dressed in the morning,across the UK and US (but not on the continent.)

It's a trend.

ksmithson · 24/10/2023 02:29

I’m not a big fan of traditional “pajamas” so sleep in leggings and a nicer/fitted tank top usually; not sure how I would be able to tell who was in “sleeping clothes” and “day time clothes” if I was to compare really as mine probably look quite similar to what I’d wear during the day.

FoodMishap · 24/10/2023 02:32

Rudderneck · 24/10/2023 02:00

Do you really think this sudden upsurge in people wearing pjs in public is die to some kind of epidemic of illness?

If not it's pretty irrelevant.

Clearly not. But there’s a few different issues going on in this thread which makes it interesting.

  1. The upsurge in people wearing nightwear in public eg at a hotel buffet - not likely to do with them having chronic illness. Maybe a proportion are ill/disabled have carers/are not quite well but yes it’s not currently illegal to go on holiday if you’re chronically ill. I’m not going to assume a large portion here though, a few for sure. But it’s fair to say yes : broadly speaking it’s a trend, societal changes; fairly entertaining. Peak MN etc.
  2. The judgemental nature of many posters who, for example, see a woman in a pharmacy picking up a medical prescription in nightwear, or walking down the street in nightwear, and chastise her for that when that have absolutely no idea about the circumstances she may find herself in & the amount of energy she has for everyday things everyone else claims to find easy.
  3. The amount of posters saying they would “never” go anywhere without showering and changing out of pyjamas, not even wfh or go downstairs & eat breakfast in their own homes. They “just couldn’t do it” it would make them feel “scuzzy” etc. This is coming from a profound place of misunderstanding about what it’s like to be chronically and seriously ill, and is ignorant and ableist. It could in fact easily happen to them, and they are blithely blinkered and unaware that disease and illness is a random lottery, and they currently have the very lucky choice to get dressed and showered. It’s pure luck not moral superiority. One day these superior people may find they do not have luck or choice at all.

Moreover and of more concern, your comment about my post, and those of other posters who agree with me, as being “irrelevant” is extremely rude and ableist and only serves to underlie my point at the way the chronically sick, disabled and terminally ill are judged by people like you.

Don’t worry. I already feel irrelevant as I am so ill I have to spend most days in bed not able to work; be a mother to DD5; a wife; a friend, a functioning person in any way with any semblance of a normal non nightwear life. Thanks for hammering that point home though.

Pray you never get seriously ill, grow old and become irrelevant yourself .

user1492757084 · 24/10/2023 02:33

How uncouth and unexpected.
Unless they were all attending an advertised inhouse pyjama party or unless the person were a tiny baby I would find it unreasonable to breakfast amongst sleepwear clad hotel guests.

LifesShortTalkFast · 24/10/2023 02:39

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 24/10/2023 02:10

In theory I agree with this, but in practice I reserve the right to laugh my ass off at anyone older than a toddler shuffling around in public in their PJ's and fluffy slippers😂

What should we call this fashion trend? Care Home Chic? Convalescent Casual?

C'mon people, go the extra mile and pull on a pair of sweatpants🙄

Given-up-on-life-wear.

I never thought I'd have to ask any adult this question, but do you realise that people who live in care homes and other medical/therapeutic accommodation, as well as disabled and very ill folk... are actually people?

They don't just live their lives to either diligently please you or otherwise to provide you with endless cheap entertainment at how hilariously useless, undignified and sub-human you may perceive them to be.

Give the drama and faux outrage a rest🙄

This thread is poking fun at people walking around in their pajamas as a fashion choice, not because they are physically unable to dress themselves.

Shuffling thru the airport in your PJ's and bunny slippers as a fashion statement is pretty funny and undignified. Wearing pajamas or robes in a care home or hospital is probably sensible (although my lovely mother rocked some stylish yoga pants and track suits when she was a care home resident).

Unclench. No need to take offense in a (mostly) joking thread about people taking "casual dressing" to a whole new level.

FoodMishap · 24/10/2023 02:46

No one’s clenching @LifesShortTalkFast I thought the PP who brought up the spoon theory was super interesting and it’s given the discussion a bit of interest and depth other than oh my god people go to hotel breakfasts in their pyjamas.

Moro93 · 24/10/2023 02:48

I have seen this every single time I’ve ever had breakfast in a hotel, you all need to stop clutching your pearls.

I remember doing it as a kid, only ever once as an adult when I was feeling terrible so went down to breakfast in PJ trousers and a hoodie.

I sometimes (please, please don’t judge me!) even go on a late night/early hours of the morning trip to a supermarket wearing my pyjama trousers with normal tops and a jumper or hoodie.
I honestly don’t know how I live with myself, I should be ashamed to even dare drive near a supermarket without being fully presentable!!!

The snobbery and classist opinions on this thread are disgusting, and I haven’t even read half of it.

Shockingly, when I’ve seen people go to breakfast in nightwear, it’s mostly middle aged or elderly people who come across as very middle class…