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What is this new form of slobdom?

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Theokaycokey · 23/10/2023 21:17

Staying at a seaside resort in the UK. Large Hotel has a massive open atrium that is overlooked by hotel rooms and anyone walking along the promenade. The hotel restaurant is located smack bang in the middle of the atrium and is open to the reception area. I come down to breakfast this morning and a significant number of guests are sat in their pyjamas having their breakfast! Different families, all scattered around the restaurant or queuing at the breakfast buffet in their nightwear and fluffy slippers. This is the first time that I have come across this. Is it a relatively recent phenomenon?

OP posts:
FanFckingTastic · 25/10/2023 10:03

It doesn't matter what 'class' someone is, how much someone earns, or which car they drive. If they are a fit and healthy adult then there's no reason why they can't get up, wash, brush their teeth and put some clothes on before going out in public.

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 10:04

FanFckingTastic · 25/10/2023 10:03

It doesn't matter what 'class' someone is, how much someone earns, or which car they drive. If they are a fit and healthy adult then there's no reason why they can't get up, wash, brush their teeth and put some clothes on before going out in public.

in your world!

can you explain why i have to live according to your standards?!

GO!

User0000009 · 25/10/2023 10:06

😮

TerfTalking · 25/10/2023 10:06

I've seen it too, and it's horrible. Saturday afternoon in the city centre.

I got up last week, pottered about the house, did some jobs, cleaned out the garage, cut the grass and the hedges, swept the leaves and then needed to go to the tip to take the garden waste.

It dawned on me, I was still in my PJs with strawberries on them, all I had done that day was brush my teeth and splashed my face with later.

You will be pleased to know Mumsnetters, my house is off the road so no one saw me, and I changed into leggings and a t-shirt before I drove to the tip.

Can't say I wasn't tempted though...

SurprisedWithAHorse · 25/10/2023 10:11

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:58

I think it unlikely to be seeing anything if the man is wearing what i would class as pyjamas. If you said boxers - then maybe. or a borat thong onesie! then yeah! you might see things you might not want to!

But pjs?

Im just not buying any of this.

Plus. All i can say - money talks. Oh it does. i earn 6 figures - and drive a bmw - and i wear pjs to tescos. So when i rock up anywhere - they accept it. Cos im paying. And I also do not care for others opinions. If i was sitting there naked, or even in hot pants and a crop top. then yeah. I can see that. But in pjs? which are in essence wide leg trousers and a tshirt/shirt? its all mad! truly mad!

its all too much drama for me. and bringing class into it? not that you have, but other posters have! you clearly do not know how anyone with money operates. at all. ive stayed numerous times at private members clubs. you are paying! they will let you do as you like - within wide reason!

If you need to bring class into anything - it shows you have none.

I can't tell if this post is serious or not.

Utterbunkum · 25/10/2023 10:11

I find it difficult to believe that these people are wearing stuff they actually slept in unless it's very light negligee style. Most hotels these days are like ovens, goodness knows how high their energy bills are. Anyone wearing anything fleecy apart from kids must have either just put it on or get cold very easily.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 25/10/2023 10:11

To me clothes aren't just a practical concept - they're not just there to keep you warm or stop you getting arrested for indecency. They're signifiers of all kinds of things. I'll bet everyone here makes a judgment based on what other people are wearing all the time - some will be straight-forward snobs, others inverse snobs, but we'll all make assumptions about other people from their outward appearance/clothing choices.

Have you ever stopped to think how much nicer the world would be if we treated people as individuals and focused on their personality, character and kindness; rather than just obsessing about what particular 'wrapper' they have in order to conform as they feel pressured to do so?

If you opt for comfort above all other considerations, thenoneperson (you) is going to be happy. But thenhundredsof people might be put off their breakfast. So from a statistical point of view, I think it makes sense to spend that 5/10 mins putting on something prettier when going out to face the world.

If somebody is 'put off their breakfast' by a stranger wearing slightly different clothes from them at a different table, the problem really is with them and not the stranger.

Anybody who feels they cannot function properly if they're 'subjected to' the sight of people who are different from them in any way should check their prejudice and maybe seek help if they're finding that it truly irrationally impacts their life.

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 10:12

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 25/10/2023 10:11

To me clothes aren't just a practical concept - they're not just there to keep you warm or stop you getting arrested for indecency. They're signifiers of all kinds of things. I'll bet everyone here makes a judgment based on what other people are wearing all the time - some will be straight-forward snobs, others inverse snobs, but we'll all make assumptions about other people from their outward appearance/clothing choices.

Have you ever stopped to think how much nicer the world would be if we treated people as individuals and focused on their personality, character and kindness; rather than just obsessing about what particular 'wrapper' they have in order to conform as they feel pressured to do so?

If you opt for comfort above all other considerations, thenoneperson (you) is going to be happy. But thenhundredsof people might be put off their breakfast. So from a statistical point of view, I think it makes sense to spend that 5/10 mins putting on something prettier when going out to face the world.

If somebody is 'put off their breakfast' by a stranger wearing slightly different clothes from them at a different table, the problem really is with them and not the stranger.

Anybody who feels they cannot function properly if they're 'subjected to' the sight of people who are different from them in any way should check their prejudice and maybe seek help if they're finding that it truly irrationally impacts their life.

100%

User0000009 · 25/10/2023 10:13

A girl walked past my house in a dressing gown and slippers the other day. It’s a general dumbing down of society.

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:15

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:58

I think it unlikely to be seeing anything if the man is wearing what i would class as pyjamas. If you said boxers - then maybe. or a borat thong onesie! then yeah! you might see things you might not want to!

But pjs?

Im just not buying any of this.

Plus. All i can say - money talks. Oh it does. i earn 6 figures - and drive a bmw - and i wear pjs to tescos. So when i rock up anywhere - they accept it. Cos im paying. And I also do not care for others opinions. If i was sitting there naked, or even in hot pants and a crop top. then yeah. I can see that. But in pjs? which are in essence wide leg trousers and a tshirt/shirt? its all mad! truly mad!

its all too much drama for me. and bringing class into it? not that you have, but other posters have! you clearly do not know how anyone with money operates. at all. ive stayed numerous times at private members clubs. you are paying! they will let you do as you like - within wide reason!

If you need to bring class into anything - it shows you have none.

I can clearly see my husband's genitals when he is walking around wearing his pyjamas. So I don't want to see men other than my husband wearing their pyjamas, thanks very much.

The idea that someone is entitled to walk around in their nightwear with zero respect for anyone else around them because they have money and drive a BMW is next level grim. That doesn't say "money talks". That says "money can't buy class".

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 10:16

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:15

I can clearly see my husband's genitals when he is walking around wearing his pyjamas. So I don't want to see men other than my husband wearing their pyjamas, thanks very much.

The idea that someone is entitled to walk around in their nightwear with zero respect for anyone else around them because they have money and drive a BMW is next level grim. That doesn't say "money talks". That says "money can't buy class".

respect?

interesting!

what about wearing pjs is disrespectful? fascinating.

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:17

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 10:16

respect?

interesting!

what about wearing pjs is disrespectful? fascinating.

I would say that putting clothes on to go outside falls under the heading of "basic respect and consideration for others", yep.

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 10:19

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:17

I would say that putting clothes on to go outside falls under the heading of "basic respect and consideration for others", yep.

well, i think we can agree to disagree!

clothes? pjs are clothes!

Im stopping now - im going to go out in my pjs 😅

blueshoes · 25/10/2023 10:20

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:58

I think it unlikely to be seeing anything if the man is wearing what i would class as pyjamas. If you said boxers - then maybe. or a borat thong onesie! then yeah! you might see things you might not want to!

But pjs?

Im just not buying any of this.

Plus. All i can say - money talks. Oh it does. i earn 6 figures - and drive a bmw - and i wear pjs to tescos. So when i rock up anywhere - they accept it. Cos im paying. And I also do not care for others opinions. If i was sitting there naked, or even in hot pants and a crop top. then yeah. I can see that. But in pjs? which are in essence wide leg trousers and a tshirt/shirt? its all mad! truly mad!

its all too much drama for me. and bringing class into it? not that you have, but other posters have! you clearly do not know how anyone with money operates. at all. ive stayed numerous times at private members clubs. you are paying! they will let you do as you like - within wide reason!

If you need to bring class into anything - it shows you have none.

Oh my

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:20

I'd also say that if I see you getting out of your shiny BMW to go to the shops in your pyjamas, so I can see that you have money, I'm not going to think, "maybe she's homeless and addicted to meths", I'm going to judge you much harder for being a slob.

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:21

blueshoes · 25/10/2023 10:20

Oh my

Illuminating, isn't it?

blueshoes · 25/10/2023 10:24

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:21

Illuminating, isn't it?

Yes, never thought I'd get a live one

Utterbunkum · 25/10/2023 10:28

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:15

I can clearly see my husband's genitals when he is walking around wearing his pyjamas. So I don't want to see men other than my husband wearing their pyjamas, thanks very much.

The idea that someone is entitled to walk around in their nightwear with zero respect for anyone else around them because they have money and drive a BMW is next level grim. That doesn't say "money talks". That says "money can't buy class".

Unless his pyjamas are translucent or you have X ray vision, I suspect you mean you can clearly see the shape of his genitals under the cloth. You can also see this if a man is wearing tight trousers or lycra shorts. People have bits and pieces that bulge. Unless they are poking out from somewhere, you aren't seeing anything but the shape of something that you know exists.

So what are you actually upset about 'seeing'? A shape?

LaurieStrode · 25/10/2023 10:29

Bookist · 25/10/2023 09:47

There is no virtue in being scruffy and having poor judgement about social norms, whether it bothers those around you or not.

Agree. It's sad how low some people's standards are.

GreenAppleCrumble · 25/10/2023 10:29

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:58

I think it unlikely to be seeing anything if the man is wearing what i would class as pyjamas. If you said boxers - then maybe. or a borat thong onesie! then yeah! you might see things you might not want to!

But pjs?

Im just not buying any of this.

Plus. All i can say - money talks. Oh it does. i earn 6 figures - and drive a bmw - and i wear pjs to tescos. So when i rock up anywhere - they accept it. Cos im paying. And I also do not care for others opinions. If i was sitting there naked, or even in hot pants and a crop top. then yeah. I can see that. But in pjs? which are in essence wide leg trousers and a tshirt/shirt? its all mad! truly mad!

its all too much drama for me. and bringing class into it? not that you have, but other posters have! you clearly do not know how anyone with money operates. at all. ive stayed numerous times at private members clubs. you are paying! they will let you do as you like - within wide reason!

If you need to bring class into anything - it shows you have none.

Eeek! Cringing so hard for you here!

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:33

Utterbunkum · 25/10/2023 10:28

Unless his pyjamas are translucent or you have X ray vision, I suspect you mean you can clearly see the shape of his genitals under the cloth. You can also see this if a man is wearing tight trousers or lycra shorts. People have bits and pieces that bulge. Unless they are poking out from somewhere, you aren't seeing anything but the shape of something that you know exists.

So what are you actually upset about 'seeing'? A shape?

Tight trousers and lycra hold everything in. Loose pyjamas made out of thin cotton allow things to, er, bounce around.

And that's as far as I really feel comfortable going with this. Suffice to say I don't want to see random men, or women for that matter, wearing their pyjamas in a public place, and I reserve the right to judge people who do this as slobs.

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 10:34

GreenAppleCrumble · 25/10/2023 10:29

Eeek! Cringing so hard for you here!

How staggeringly lacking in self awareness do you have to be to type all that and then conclude that other people have no class?

Wouldyouguess · 25/10/2023 10:34

Antst · 23/10/2023 21:26

Maybe so, but the people in pyjamas definitely aren't. If you put clothes on, there's a higher chance you'll have washed and put underwear on.

I dont showe in the morning, in my culture we have a shower (or more often bath) in the evening every day, so I suppose it's 'fanny wafts' all day everyday for most people...

Wonkasworld · 25/10/2023 10:38

I've seen the odd person in pyjamas in a supermarket, with a coat over the top. I do think these posts are exaggerated. So what if they are wearing night wear to pop down to breakfast or to the shops. I've never seen anybody in a hotel do it but it wouldn't put me off my cornflakes. This faux outrage is entertaining, though.

Lordofmyflies · 25/10/2023 10:47

Its grim. I live near a tourist town in Cornwall and it’s not uncommon to see people in the local shop in their pj’s picking up a morning paper or pack of bacon. I can only assume they really don’t care what others think of them and manners?