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What is this new form of slobdom?

777 replies

Theokaycokey · 23/10/2023 21:17

Staying at a seaside resort in the UK. Large Hotel has a massive open atrium that is overlooked by hotel rooms and anyone walking along the promenade. The hotel restaurant is located smack bang in the middle of the atrium and is open to the reception area. I come down to breakfast this morning and a significant number of guests are sat in their pyjamas having their breakfast! Different families, all scattered around the restaurant or queuing at the breakfast buffet in their nightwear and fluffy slippers. This is the first time that I have come across this. Is it a relatively recent phenomenon?

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MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 09:11

GreenAppleCrumble · 25/10/2023 09:02

And with the pjs...are things dangling free, or do people put on underwear with them? The thought of all kinds of things swinging freely is too much for me at a meal time.

🙄
You know people sometimes don’t wear underwear with regular clothes, yes? I think you’re on the wind-up. No one could seriously be this delicate!

I wouldn’t wear pyjamas to breakfast because it’s too casual/falling below social norms. But it doesn’t sicken me on some visceral level if others do. Jeez!

If a man is wearing no underwear under a pair of jeans, you probably wouldn't be able to see the outline of his genitals because the fabric is thick and structured. If he is wearing a thin pair of cotton pyjamas without underwear on, you definitely can see. It doesn't bother me if it's my own husband's genitals I can see when we are having breakfast at home with just our immediate family. But if someone like my dad or my brother were staying with us, I would want everyone including my husband to put pants on to eat breakfast. And I would put a bra on for the same reason.

The idea of having breakfast in a semi public place such as a hotel wearing pyjamas and no underwear seems totally grim to me.

Fizbosshoes · 25/10/2023 09:15

I saw a teenage girl in PJs, bare feet and a blanket in Aldi one day. My first thought was that I'd hate to have bare feet in the carpark or the shop. Otherwise a bit unusual but it didn't make me want to vomit, or hinder my shopping in any way - I think some posters are a bit dramatic about the effect other people's clothes have on them!

I very rarely stay in hotels, and would always get dressed for breakfast (if I'd showered the night before I may not shower in the morning - which I know is a MN crime!! ) I'm not sure I'd be that put off by someone 4 tables away wearing pjs though

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 25/10/2023 09:16

But is anyone calling pj-breakfasters an 'underclass'? Sorry - might have missed that.

One poster definitely called them an underclass and many, many others have called them inferior in various ways

with no underpants (men) and no bras (women) while I'm having a croissant off-putting. That's all.

I've got news for you.... some people don't wear underwear at all!

Fizbosshoes · 25/10/2023 09:16

I saw a teenage girl in PJs, bare feet and a blanket in Aldi one day. My first thought was that I'd hate to have bare feet in the carpark or the shop. Otherwise a bit unusual but it didn't make me want to vomit, or hinder my shopping in any way - I think some posters are a bit dramatic about the effect other people's clothes have on them!

I very rarely stay in hotels, and would always get dressed for breakfast (if I'd showered the night before I may not shower in the morning - which I know is a MN crime!! ) I'm not sure I'd be that put off by someone 4 tables away wearing pjs though

19lucky87 · 25/10/2023 09:18

Emmm I think your being a bit sterotypical... when I was a kid we were all perfectly turned out, and my dad was certainly (and still is ) an extremely hard working man doing what he can to earn money. My kids are well turned out, ( when we leave the house anyway) and my husband works hard too. Both would be described as very working class households. I don't think everyone who's working class as are "slobs" and wear their jim jams for breakfast at a hotel. We dont? And I've never actually seen any people wearing PJ's in hotels and the only ones I've stayed in are cheap 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

Melodysmum12 · 25/10/2023 09:21

Wearing pjs and having a stinking minge are two very different things! I wouldn’t go to breakfast in my nightwear but if I did, my vagina wouldn’t stink anyway! I mean how long do you have to not bathe for to have a stinking twat?!

Ginmonkeyagain · 25/10/2023 09:21

I think the only time I have been in public in nightwear is when we were evacuated from our flat due to a large fire next to our building. I just had time to pull on a pair of trainers and an overcoat.

We then spent 5 hours or so at a local council rest centre. I felt very uncomfortable sitting in a room full of strangers in my nightwear. Luckily it was January so I kept my overcoat on indoors.

GreenAppleCrumble · 25/10/2023 09:21

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 09:11

If a man is wearing no underwear under a pair of jeans, you probably wouldn't be able to see the outline of his genitals because the fabric is thick and structured. If he is wearing a thin pair of cotton pyjamas without underwear on, you definitely can see. It doesn't bother me if it's my own husband's genitals I can see when we are having breakfast at home with just our immediate family. But if someone like my dad or my brother were staying with us, I would want everyone including my husband to put pants on to eat breakfast. And I would put a bra on for the same reason.

The idea of having breakfast in a semi public place such as a hotel wearing pyjamas and no underwear seems totally grim to me.

My god, you do spend a lot of energy worrying about the layers of clothing between you and random men’s genitals! This has been a revelation.

I thought the objection to pyjamas was purely about appropriate levels of formality. I was wrong!

Fizbosshoes · 25/10/2023 09:23

I think some folks are a tad dramatic about the effect other people's clothes have on them.

FWiW I usually sleep in a vest or tshirt and knickers. I put something else on just to go downstairs in my own house so I certainly wouldn't think about going to a hotel breakfast like that! but if someone 4 tables away was wearing pjs (that covered all relevant parts) I'm not sure I could be too bothered.
I do hate the idea of traipsing around with bare feet though because I think it would be uncomfortable and dirty.

TurnipMuncher · 25/10/2023 09:26

Lower primary age DC wear pyjamas to hotel breakfasts, because I can guarantee that if they get dressed for the day first they'll get beans and orange juice all over themselves and they'll have to change again anyway, but that seems to happen less in their pjs.

Me and DH get dressed though.

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 09:27

GreenAppleCrumble · 25/10/2023 09:21

My god, you do spend a lot of energy worrying about the layers of clothing between you and random men’s genitals! This has been a revelation.

I thought the objection to pyjamas was purely about appropriate levels of formality. I was wrong!

I...just don't want to be able to see some random guy's cock when I'm trying to eat my breakfast.

Surely I'm not that unusual in feeling this way?

KimberleyClark · 25/10/2023 09:29

When I was working I’d get washed and dressed before breakfast so I was ready to leave the house straight after. Now I’m retired I have breakfast first and then get washed and dressed. But I wouldn’t dream of going down to hotel breakfast without getting washed and dressed first. I would be embarrassed to do so.

Teentaxidriver · 25/10/2023 09:30

In the comfort of their own homes, the upper class do as they wish but outside it? I don’t think any of my landed gentry mates would be caught dead breakfasting in public in their pyjamas. Debrett’s doesn’t even conceive if such a thing.

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:33

Teentaxidriver · 25/10/2023 09:30

In the comfort of their own homes, the upper class do as they wish but outside it? I don’t think any of my landed gentry mates would be caught dead breakfasting in public in their pyjamas. Debrett’s doesn’t even conceive if such a thing.

And you are particularly super!

what a gem!

please carry on 😂

GreenAppleCrumble · 25/10/2023 09:36

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 09:27

I...just don't want to be able to see some random guy's cock when I'm trying to eat my breakfast.

Surely I'm not that unusual in feeling this way?

Not unreasonable at all! I guess I just hadn’t given the matter sufficient thought…

GreenAppleCrumble · 25/10/2023 09:36

Teentaxidriver · 25/10/2023 09:30

In the comfort of their own homes, the upper class do as they wish but outside it? I don’t think any of my landed gentry mates would be caught dead breakfasting in public in their pyjamas. Debrett’s doesn’t even conceive if such a thing.

😂

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:37

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 09:27

I...just don't want to be able to see some random guy's cock when I'm trying to eat my breakfast.

Surely I'm not that unusual in feeling this way?

Why are you looking at their lap? Or general crotch area? are you not getting enough at home?

justteanbiscuits · 25/10/2023 09:37

Witnessed it for my first time this weekend. Group of us staying in a Premier Inn up north(ish), and so many people rocked up to breakfast in their PJ's / dressing gown. OK, so I showered after breakfast, but I did change into hoody and leggings for breakfast and put deodorant on

Bookist · 25/10/2023 09:47

There is no virtue in being scruffy and having poor judgement about social norms, whether it bothers those around you or not.

FloweryPumpkin · 25/10/2023 09:47

givemeasunnyday · 25/10/2023 04:34

I've already said something similar, but posters continue to insist that all it takes to be a good person is to be well dressed. There's no arguing with people who (mistakenly) think they are better than others.

‘posters continue to insist that all it takes to be a good person is to be well dressed.’

Where has anyone said this?

Sandydonut · 25/10/2023 09:50

Giggling at fanny wafts. We all get showered and dressed but leave the toddler in a onesie to save her clothes getting breakfast on them!

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 09:50

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:37

Why are you looking at their lap? Or general crotch area? are you not getting enough at home?

Well I'm not. But at the same time, should I really have to look away while some guy is queuing for the breakfast buffet to avoid getting an accidental eyeful?

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:51

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 09:50

Well I'm not. But at the same time, should I really have to look away while some guy is queuing for the breakfast buffet to avoid getting an accidental eyeful?

I guess, before I can answer! what is the man wearing in this 'readers wives' type scenario?!😂

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 09:53

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:51

I guess, before I can answer! what is the man wearing in this 'readers wives' type scenario?!😂

Edited

Pyjamas. Which is what this thread is discussing.

MrsDaniFilth · 25/10/2023 09:58

MargotBamborough · 25/10/2023 09:53

Pyjamas. Which is what this thread is discussing.

I think it unlikely to be seeing anything if the man is wearing what i would class as pyjamas. If you said boxers - then maybe. or a borat thong onesie! then yeah! you might see things you might not want to!

But pjs?

Im just not buying any of this.

Plus. All i can say - money talks. Oh it does. i earn 6 figures - and drive a bmw - and i wear pjs to tescos. So when i rock up anywhere - they accept it. Cos im paying. And I also do not care for others opinions. If i was sitting there naked, or even in hot pants and a crop top. then yeah. I can see that. But in pjs? which are in essence wide leg trousers and a tshirt/shirt? its all mad! truly mad!

its all too much drama for me. and bringing class into it? not that you have, but other posters have! you clearly do not know how anyone with money operates. at all. ive stayed numerous times at private members clubs. you are paying! they will let you do as you like - within wide reason!

If you need to bring class into anything - it shows you have none.