What is this new form of slobdom?

[Theokaycokey]

Staying at a seaside resort in the UK. Large Hotel has a massive open atrium that is overlooked by hotel rooms and anyone walking along the promenade. The hotel restaurant is located smack bang in the middle of the atrium and is open to the reception area. I come down to breakfast this morning and a significant number of guests are sat in their pyjamas having their breakfast! Different families, all scattered around the restaurant or queuing at the breakfast buffet in their nightwear and fluffy slippers. This is the first time that I have come across this. Is it a relatively recent phenomenon?

What on gods great earth is a bloody fanny waft 😂😂😂😂

But jiggling or tightly held together, you can still see the shape. I don't really understand why jiggling is more offensive. A lot of me, my DH included, wear very loose fitting trousers. My DH wears underwear, but I would imagine some don't. I wonder if you would even notice if someone was wearing loose, thin cotton trousers at a hotel breakfast without underwear. I doubt you would.
I wouldn't wear pyjamas in that scenario, and I think it's not really the thing to do, but I can't understand this seeing things business.

It's sad. I think so many people were intrinsically very lazy, deep down, but were unable to indulge their scruffiness because standards were very different years ago. But slowly, standards have dropped. More and more people are enjoying being scruffy and indulging their laziness, and it becomes a race to the bottom. They are self selecting themselves into a dim, scruffy underclass.

In some cases a dim, scruffy underclass who drive BMWs, apparently.

Sounds like something Dickens would have named one of his characters. Here lies Fanny Waft, wife of the above...

Thanks to this thread, I now know about the spoon theory. Anyone, who has suffered with a disability and/or mental illness, can tell you about their bad days, where getting out of bed, never mind getting dressed, can be problematic.

I'm not saying there aren't people who just decide, sod it when they go out in night wear but to judge is sometimes not to have walked that mile..

Wait until they hear about loose fitting underwear ...

I've done many a call wearing my dressing gown if someone has called me early - obviously only with colleagues I know well and I wouldn't do it now as I wouldn't answer before my start time! Whenever I work from home I'm wearing leggings and a t-shirt so not exactly work wear but nothing to do with anyone else.

I'm also planning on taking slippers to the office when I go back after breaking my foot. I don't know if I'll be able to wear trainers all day so I want something to change into that won't hurt. If people don't like it I'll carry on working from home until it's fully healed.

Same here. I’ll pull anything on, have breakfast then go back to the room and shower and get ready for the day.

It doesn't matter what car you drive, or how much you earn. It's still scruffy and absolutely nothing to aspire to.

A 'shape' jiggling around in loose outerwear, with or without loose underwear is disturbing.

My eyes would not even want to go there. It is offensive to put people in public placces in the position of averting their eyes in order not to have to use eye bleach or be reminded of other people's genitals whilst out and about doing polite everyday business.

Not sure why I even have to say something so self-evident.

i Would be leaving the hotel then and there. Utterly, utterly disgusting! Who are these scuzzy people with no self respect???? Jeez! You can be as grim as you like in your own home, but not in public. Who is bovinely greedy that they cannot stop to dress without eating?

It's what lower middle class Bucket women think they can smell from women they deem to be working class by their choice of breakfast attire😂

Offensive 😂

I think this comes back to cultivated appearances though. I find it hard to believe that the majority of adults wear PJs actually in bed unless it's a really cold night or in someone else's house. So, if you are going out like that, you've put it on for the purpose of being clothed to go out, or you were wearing it to lounge about the house in and didn't change. If you purposefully put it on, why not just put on day clothes?
I own one pair of PJs and a nightshirt. I only wear them if I am staying in someone else's house overnight in case I need to get up for the loo.
I might be naive, but if I see someone in PJs out and about, I never think it's what they slept in. I presume they are having a 'duvet day', or whatever the thing is these days, and didn't change.

Yeah that is a good point. Generally I tend to wear a vest and pants at night or nothing in summer. So for me putting on nightwear to go down to breakfast or to the shops would be the same as just getting dressed. As you say if that is the case why not just wear clothes designed for outer wear?

I don't think being a slob is a working class thing. I think it's a being a slob thing.

Most working class people I know are considerably more house proud than some of the wealthiest people I know. I would tend to assume the same applies to personal hygiene.

Quite.

As others have said, a lot of people will have chucked on yesterday's clothes anyway as breakfast is pre shower for many. If people are coming down in skimpy nighties with no knickers then that's a bit grim, but I bet that isn't what's happening anyway. Pyjama bottoms with a hoodie over seems fine to me unless in a really posh place.

I can't believe some people won't even have breakfast at friends' houses in their pyjamas. To me that's part of the fun of having or being a guest!

It's not self evident to me, because when I am out and about, I really am not closely looking at fully clothed people to that extent. I do notice things like men with tops off in summer, obviously, but in a public space like a hotel breakfast room, I am looking at the food in front of me if it's buffet style, my DH sitting opposite me at the table if it's service style. I might observe that someone has loose trousers or PJs on, but that would be it. I am not watching their crotch to see if something moves, and I do think you have to be looking to see. If someone is wearing something you don't expect to see them in, that might draw your eyes to look, I can understand that, but as a general rule of thumb, I don't think people notice. The problem with PJs, I will concede, may not be just that it makes people look, but that because people know underwear is less likely to be worn, perceive that stuff is jiggling untethered.

I wouldn't personally go for breakfast in my jammies, but it wouldn't bother me if others did. Let's face it, having clothes on doesn't mean you're clean, or have even washed your hands, let alone showered!

SIL has often when talking of holz said that they went down for breakfast (I’m assuming in their clothes), then went back up & had their shower. I could never, do that! I’m always showered & in fresh clothes.

I wouldn't. Not even at my parents house. Perhaps it's a generational thing.

I wear slippers down for breakfast, I don’t like to wear shoes inside, different if walking to our room after being out or leaving for the day, but no I’ll wear slippers to breakfast!!!

I think it's just a preference thing tbh.