To ask if you believe in manifestation?

[Thewal]

I watched ‘The Secret’ today. It seemed to be mostly waffle with some random quotes thrown in, but from what I can gather it suggests that positive thinking and asking for things from the universe is what leads to ‘success’ and essentially getting what you want.

So I’d love to hear if you have ever manifested something into reality? How did you do it and how long did it take? Do you believe in it? And does the banishing of negative thoughts ever stress you out?

I just want to know what day to day life is like for people who practice this and if people have actually had something happen they put down to it?

We can all be poly

Good for you. Why are you dismissing what works for others because it's not what you believe in? We all live life in the way we feel works best for us.

Name change because it sounds mad.

My sister was into it for a while last year, so I tried it as an experiment.

I wanted to manifest a recent ex back - I did, but 9 months later.

In the meantime, a lot of random men I'd gone on dates with in the past reappeared, I got asked out a lot and one ex from a solid decade earlier asked me out 2 - 3 times a week for 6+ months. I got so fed up I blocked him.

That's called 'birds before land'

Is it just coincidence? Of course.

I like youtube tarot readings for the same reason. I have a boring, remote desk job.

A lot of very specific tarot readings came true.

No, not really.

I mean, yes, the general common understanding of karma is - the idea that what you put into the universe you'll get back. Indeed we joke that DS2 seems to have an instant karma chip implanted - whenever he's being naughty something will instantly happen to accidentally injure him.

But the actual spiritual notion of karma from Hinduism, Buddhism etc isn't that fast, it's more to do with how you live your life in general influencing what your next life will be like. But again this is just a belief system, if you want to be cynical about it, there's no possible mechanism for this to happen. Like many things in religion it exists as a tool to encourage wanted behaviour and explain away inexplicable things like why some people are born into an easy life and others are born into suffering and want.

Because the op asked if people believe in manifestation- I don’t.

Some things are not a matter of opinion, they are facts. It is a fact that positive thinking, while having some usefulness, does not cause the universe to provide you with whatever you fancy. It is a fact that negative thoughts will not cause you to develop illness or get hit by a bus. It is a fact that many people are ripped off and/or damaged by charlatans selling this snake oil.

I kind of do. But with a caveat

I believe that of you think about something strongly enough your brain puts things in place to enable it to happen. I don't think that's something mystical

Scientifically, negative thoughts DO cause illness.

Pessimism also leads to generally negative outcomes.

The Source: a book by Dr Tara Swart (who is a neuroscientist) explains how the Law Of Attraction (manifestation) works if anyone is interested.
I really enjoyed Manifest by Roxi Nafousi.

Also positive thoughts can create health and wellness. We see this in scientific research in the form of a placebo.
This doesn't mean you should be afraid of negative thoughts as we all have them.

I’ve manifested some amazing stuff and very specific too. It would be outing to share but I believe it works.
I’m not sure if it’s actually ‘the universe’ or it’s just the power of positivity and aligned action.

Same here 😊

Sadly, daft reasons like this are why people try it .

To get someone not interested in you back.

Then you end up being used and strung along by some idiot not worth dating in the first place.

It's true.
If you have negative have a fixed mindset, you'll have a harder time in life than someone who can see possibilities.

I don't mean in daft things like most people think of, like dating some married celebrity, winning a billion lottery.

It means being accountable and being in the driver seat of your own life rather than just drifting along blaming others and bad luck for what happens to them.

The majority won't do that.

Focussing and positive thinking yes. I don’t do nearly as much of the latter as I should do.

Manifesting thimgs otherwise and expecting them to come true. No.

No they don’t.

There is some correlation between CHRONIC stress and poor health outcomes, including cancer- but everyone has some negative thoughts sometimes. It isn’t remotely normal or healthy to try and force yourself to feel positive all the time.

If having negative thoughts caused people to be ill then there wouldn’t be millions of people in refugee camps would there? They would all have died of Negative Thoughts. I would definitely have been very ill by about 8 years old.

Fucking hell, toddlers would be dropping like flies considering how often their life is destroyed by being given the wrong banana 🤦‍♀️

I work in the health care in a rehabilitation setting
Stress and negativity have shown to decrease positive outcomes for patients in our service.
Thankfully, we have a fantastic manager who has recognised this and we work on this alongside physical rehabilitation.

Right, so you tell all your patients that if they ask the universe to make them better and never ever think ‘this is shit’ or ‘my legs hurt today’ or ‘I wish I wasn’t I’ll’ - then they will magically get better?

I presume you make it clear that if they don’t get better because they have terminal cancer, or don’t suddenly walk unaided again because they are a double amputee, that they must have allowed negativity in and not practiced manifestation positively enough?

Because if not, if what you are doing is encouraging people to have hope and to try and make the best of their situation rather than becoming bogged down in depression, you are not using manifestation to help them, you are using common bloody sense.

Nope.
I'm saying the patients that are positive are more likely to get better or live more optimally than those that are not. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that people who expect a negative outcome achieve exactly that. I work in a neurological rehab setting not with terminal patients.

Manifestation is all about positivity and expecting a good outcome. You can then make aligned choices which cause the good outcome to happen.

Tara Swart (neuroscientist) explains this well in her book.

No it isn’t- some of it may be common sense dressed up in a new name, but manifestation as it’s being sold by wankers to vulnerable people in order to make money (mlms, self help gurus etc) are not just pointing out that trying to stay positive is helpful when you’re ill. There wouldn’t be any money in that because everyone knows it already.

Can I manifest my arthritis away?

Ok you do you. You probably have a wonderful life and you don't need to try anything else.
Have a lovely day.

"Can I manifest my arthritis away?"

Of course! You're obviously not "fighting" it hard enough....

It's a massive load of bullshit. You don't manifest anything. The universe does not provide.

People who are positive in general do better because they are positive, and they are positive because they do better. People who work hard and make their own luck and go for every opportunity do that because they have the balance of opportunity, ability and positivity.

It's luck mixed with hard work. That's all, there's no special woo secret to any of it.

Silly me! I'll put it out to the universe that I don't have arthritis and see what comes back 😁

It isn’t a me and my life issue- the problem of people being ripped off and damaged by ‘manifesting’ rhetoric is a documented one. If you have read this thread you have read (and presumably ignored) people’s experience of it.