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To have just reported this to the school?

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Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 11:41

Anyone have any experience of this and what will happen next?
ds13 was shown an explicit video at school of a child aged 13 having sex with another child.

i have reported to school
I previously reported to social services but nothing happened.
will anything happened or will this just continue and we have to accept that we just live in this world ?

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LuluBlakey1 · 19/10/2023 14:47

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 13:47

I know.
and I haven’t asked for updates I know they won’t tell me not do I need to know but I AM questioning why the children imvolved continue to share. Is it too much to ask that my child go to school without all this? Are we really going to say there’s nothing anyone can do, at a video of this nature circulating. A video of children who cannot consent or understand the weight of what they are doing and the implications this will have on their future

I agree with you but teenagers have phones and watch porn- if they watch it the rest follows. They have sex, they send explicit material to each other. How would you stop it? Check every teenager in a school's phone every day? It's impossible.

Highviolet1 · 19/10/2023 15:08

School will report to social services and if advised by social services, the police. They will contact parents but will not confiscate phones to view video as this is incriminating themselves (viewing child pornography). School safeguarding team will take down the information and pass it on to relevant body and parents. It isn’t their job to investigate.

If you’ve contacted school, police and social care, you have well and truly done your job. They will not be updating you as you are not the parents of the children so you will not know what appropriate action has been taken. Consider your moral responsibility done.

GrannyRose15 · 19/10/2023 15:42

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 12:07

Has anyone any experience of this? Will they just ignore it? Or will something be done

Put your complaint in writing to the chairman of the governors. They will have to take it seriously then. Sorry if someone has already said this.

Mariposista · 19/10/2023 16:06

it isn't a 13 year old having sex. It's a 13 year old being raped. 13 year olds can't consent to sex. This is a crime, so yes, it is a police and SS matter.
Poor child.

DriftingDora · 19/10/2023 16:17

BoogieBoogieWoogie · 19/10/2023 13:45

Brain is fully engaged thanks but totally agree with the others saying do not follow up. She's done her bit in reporting to everyone.

Unless OPs child is involved in the video or sharing it then they will unlikely to be made aware of next steps

If you'd read my previous post properly you would have seen that I clearly said the OP can ask but may not be told. I don't need telling what I've already told you, thanks.

BoogieBoogieWoogie · 19/10/2023 16:21

DriftingDora · 19/10/2023 16:17

If you'd read my previous post properly you would have seen that I clearly said the OP can ask but may not be told. I don't need telling what I've already told you, thanks.

ah right. In what ways are they being so passive then? I thought you meant they should be doing more

Elliebellie87 · 19/10/2023 16:29

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DriftingDora · 19/10/2023 16:31

BoogieBoogieWoogie · 19/10/2023 16:21

ah right. In what ways are they being so passive then? I thought you meant they should be doing more

Try reading the whole of the previous post, not just the easy bits - you start top left, and read from left to right, then read each of the lines below in the same way.

And yes, the OP is being passive. If you're that worried about a situation such as this you don't sit back and trust to luck - you follow it up. Unfortunately, these days you can't rely on those in authority to do what they should do, so sometimes they need pushing, as most people with common sense realise.

Elliebellie87 · 19/10/2023 16:46

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Merkins · 19/10/2023 16:53

I reported someone on Instagram who was trying to get my 12yr old DD to “prove” she was a girl by taking a picture of her privates. I reported it to CEOP who spoke to my local police. They came out and told my daughter that she did the right thing reporting it and also explained how she could be charged with distributing child sexual images if she ever took a picture of herself and sent it.

Do these kids know they could be arrested on child porn charges even if they are the ones in the video?

Elliebellie87 · 19/10/2023 16:54

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Merkins · 19/10/2023 17:00

@Mariposista Not if they are both 13. It’s dissemination of child sexual images, which they could get in huge trouble for, but neither party is deemed able to consent if under 16.

WillowCraft · 19/10/2023 17:03

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Of course something can be done. Do you think if someone denies possession of child porn they just say ok then? They can confiscate the phone for a start and see what's on it, potentially retrieving deleted files.

Elliebellie87 · 19/10/2023 17:19

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DriftingDora · 19/10/2023 17:28

Carpediemmakeitcount · 19/10/2023 13:45

I don't think she's entitled to an update she is not their legal guardians. Unless her child was harmed she has done all she can do.

In my post I did say she may not be given any further information. And she's not done 'all she can do' - given the state of the police forces these days and the regular reports of their incompetence, would you just sit back and assume 'something was being done'? I don't think most people would. And I would also not just 'assume' that the school or social services had 'done something' either. If you can post on a forum, you can follow it up. Does the OP have a record of WHO she reported it to and the date/by what method it was reported, ie phone? Collar number of police officer/name of social worker, I wonder? If not, she should have - this is a serious matter, not a conker fight in the playground.

WillowCraft · 19/10/2023 17:47

LuluBlakey1 · 19/10/2023 14:47

I agree with you but teenagers have phones and watch porn- if they watch it the rest follows. They have sex, they send explicit material to each other. How would you stop it? Check every teenager in a school's phone every day? It's impossible.

Erm... sending round child porn is a crime. At the very least they should confiscate the phones and the police should speak to them. They need to know it's a criminal offence otherwise they'll end up on the sex offenders register

Also most 13 year olds are not having sex and even if they are they should not be filming themselves, in fact it's a stupid idea for an adult to do that unless they 100% trust their partner.

Would you film yourself having sex and send it round your workplace?

WillowCraft · 19/10/2023 17:50

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Why not? How many people need to witness a serious crime before the police take action? And of course a parent can report a crime on behalf of their child

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 17:51

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Ffs! I didn’t I reported it to police and social
and then when i was told it is still in circulation and that the kids involved were sharing for likes I called the school
i didn’t sit on anything for ages

I don’t get why people need to speak to each like crap on here? I really don’t

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Carpediemmakeitcount · 19/10/2023 17:59

DriftingDora · 19/10/2023 17:28

In my post I did say she may not be given any further information. And she's not done 'all she can do' - given the state of the police forces these days and the regular reports of their incompetence, would you just sit back and assume 'something was being done'? I don't think most people would. And I would also not just 'assume' that the school or social services had 'done something' either. If you can post on a forum, you can follow it up. Does the OP have a record of WHO she reported it to and the date/by what method it was reported, ie phone? Collar number of police officer/name of social worker, I wonder? If not, she should have - this is a serious matter, not a conker fight in the playground.

There is nothing she can do it's a safeguarding issue they will not tell her anything. It's between the authorities and the parents of the children not the op. If the op hears that it's still happening then she should report it. She is not entitled to an update.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 19/10/2023 18:03

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 17:51

Ffs! I didn’t I reported it to police and social
and then when i was told it is still in circulation and that the kids involved were sharing for likes I called the school
i didn’t sit on anything for ages

I don’t get why people need to speak to each like crap on here? I really don’t

The police told you they were sharing for likes are you sure you heard correctly. How graphic is the video if at all graphic. If they uploaded it on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram for likes the video would have been removed a sex video isn't appropriate for likes????

Elliebellie87 · 19/10/2023 18:06

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DeeKitch · 19/10/2023 18:11

There are a lot. There are 12 year old dating sites, run for and by nonces.

Wizz

Carpediemmakeitcount · 19/10/2023 18:14

DeeKitch · 19/10/2023 18:11

There are a lot. There are 12 year old dating sites, run for and by nonces.

Wizz

These are 13 year olds uploading it on to their social media account to get likes. That's what the police told op. This thread is sounding more batty as it goes along.

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