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To have just reported this to the school?

147 replies

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 11:41

Anyone have any experience of this and what will happen next?
ds13 was shown an explicit video at school of a child aged 13 having sex with another child.

i have reported to school
I previously reported to social services but nothing happened.
will anything happened or will this just continue and we have to accept that we just live in this world ?

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FrippEnos · 19/10/2023 12:34

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 12:32

But surely the children involved parents would be contacted to alert them and stop this behaviour continuing ?

the parents should have been contacted and brought in to the school. As the children have a right to have a parent or guardian present when being asked questions.

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 12:35

FrippEnos · 19/10/2023 12:34

the parents should have been contacted and brought in to the school. As the children have a right to have a parent or guardian present when being asked questions.

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That can’t have happened as it’s still going around

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Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 12:37

mumda · 19/10/2023 12:20

My friend's experience of reporting this sort of horrific thing is they had to make a complaint that it wasn't being dealt with before anything happened.

So it seems like it’s common place then?

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SahliJ · 19/10/2023 12:38

If you really feel the school are not acting then contact OFSTED under safeguarding.

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 12:38

Circumferences · 19/10/2023 12:24

The school absolutely need to intervene here

Who is sharing the video?
Where did the video come from in the first place?
Why are children using their smartphones (to watch videos) in school shouldn't they be banned during school hours?
Sharing videos of underage sex/child rape is a serious crime why aren't they acting?

Exactly! I feel so frustrated that we live in a world where this can just be circulated and no one intervenes.

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FrippEnos · 19/10/2023 12:39

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 12:35

That can’t have happened as it’s still going around

You need too look at the schools policy for this as it sounds like the response from the school is completely unacceptable.
Possibly complain to the head and the chair of governors.
and further upwards to ofsted maybe even county.

I think that you also need to remind them that sharing this type of content is illegal and the school could be found negligent if they do not pursue this.

If you have a police reference number call them and add the details of what you have done to the report.

The DSL and school will need to provide evidence of what they have done they cannot just let this ride.

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 12:41

CharlotteUnaNatalieThompson · 19/10/2023 12:22

Something similar although not identical happened at my dc school. Children in question arrested for child pornography (for having images on their phone). Don't know what happened after that though

Yes, it should be taken seriously.

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This is what should happen so they learn it’s completely unacceptable to do this.
I read in the daily mail today how young children are viewing porn and this leads to them doing these types of things. This girl and boy are going to grow up and it will haunt them for ever
when you think about teen suicides, self harm, other children normalising this and thinking it’s what you just do. It’s really scary

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prh47bridge · 19/10/2023 12:43

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 12:32

But surely the children involved parents would be contacted to alert them and stop this behaviour continuing ?

Not necessarily. The fact they are doing this suggests that the children involved may be victims of abuse or that one of their parents may be accessing child pornography and making it available to them (which is itself a form of abuse). You do not alert parents to a safeguarding concern when it raises the possibility that the child is being or has been abused by someone in the family or household.

Nowherenew · 19/10/2023 12:44

Keep reporting to the police and school.

The fact that the video is being shared is a criminal offence.

Do you know the individuals involved?
Your son (and the individuals involved if possible) need to also tell the school who is sharing the video.

In my school a group of students had a group chat and were slagging off a staff member calling him a peado etc and the boys were all pulled out of lesson and had their phones checked and got in a lot of trouble for it.

This would be taken very seriously and dealt with straight away.
There would be at the very least a talk with your son and other individuals, an all year assembly, police and parent involvement.

Elliebellie87 · 19/10/2023 12:52

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WearyAuldWumman · 19/10/2023 12:52

I'm a retired teacher. Had a situation where a couple of 13 yr olds were sent inappropriate pics by someone. Reported it to our Child Protection Officer and police were called in immediately.

Theydontknowthatweknowthattheyknow · 19/10/2023 12:52

Firstly OP (and hopefully I'm teaching you to suck eggs here) FGS tell your own child to point blank refuse to look at or receive any such images on his own phone or he could well be implicated. Really drill that into him if you haven't already

I'm a bit unclear (sorry) is this 2 13YO's that the other kids know? If it's a random video that one of the kids happens to have come across then this is obviously still sickening and serious but it will presumably take a lot more time to fully investigate. If it is of children that the others know and can identify then the police and school and ss should be all over it urgently IMO and I'd be writing to all 3 making very clear how concerned I am about this so that there's a paper trail. I'm not a helicopter parent but I'd also be considering removing my child from the school until I'm satisfied that the issue is resolved. This is far too intense for even the most level headed of 12/13YO's to make sensible decisions about IMO. It's a really serious issue and way beyond a silly sharing of 'lad mags' or the kind of stuff you'd expect to happen at this age. Look after your own first. This could be serious for them if they don't make the right decisions and get the wrong messages

Elliebellie87 · 19/10/2023 12:53

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Daffodilsandtuplips · 19/10/2023 12:57

If the boys and the girl involved are sharing the video isn’t that a crime in I itself? Sharing sexual images of underage children? If so two crimes have been committed here.

Caipirovska · 19/10/2023 12:58

I would send an e-mail to safe guarding lead at school and head teacher, SS and police and if your area has one local crime commissioner - all seeing everyone else copied in.

Stating issue - when reported and to who - give as much detail as possible about crime - and current concerns ie still being shared.

I'd use phases like safe guarding concerns and that video is being shared is a criminal offence and as time goes on more are being drawn into that offence.

Putting things in writing, making them aware they aren't only ones being informed and a succinct clear explanation of what has happen or not so far usually gets movement.

You might also contact NSPCC for advice as well.

MatthewsMumFromTikTok · 19/10/2023 13:00

Nuca · 19/10/2023 12:25

An identical story was posted the other day and removed for being a troll...

Oh I see!

Carpediemmakeitcount · 19/10/2023 13:01

Bigfuzzywuzzybear · 19/10/2023 12:07

Has anyone any experience of this? Will they just ignore it? Or will something be done

What do you want to gain out of this because if the two teens deny it you can't harass the police, SS or the school. None of them will tell you anything it's none of your business leave it to them. You will look like a trouble maker if you continue.

Astababe · 19/10/2023 13:01

@Elliebellie87 what is your problem? You keep bashing the OP about what she has or hasn’t done but she is on here asking for advice precisely because she’s concerned.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 19/10/2023 13:04

Astababe · 19/10/2023 13:01

@Elliebellie87 what is your problem? You keep bashing the OP about what she has or hasn’t done but she is on here asking for advice precisely because she’s concerned.

She's done everything she can do what does she want a full report on next steps??
She needs to get a grip and leave it to the professionals.

Kinneddar · 19/10/2023 13:08

Keep reporting to the police

Pointless advice. If its been reported once that's sufficient. Reporting the same thing again will achieve nothing It'll be getting looked into but realistically 2 weeks is no time at all. The Police aren't obliged to provide updates on each step of their enquiry. Its been reported let them get on with it

isthesolution · 19/10/2023 13:12

Well that's very disturbing that the police aren't acting on a serious allegation of distributing child pornography!

Are you sure they aren't acting? Gathering evidence and so on? Just because you haven't been told what they are doing in the case doesn't mean they are doing nothing?

DriftingDora · 19/10/2023 13:14

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I just cannot get my head around someone who would report something as serious as this and just let it lie. Surely you have a record of the date on which you reported it, who to, what they said the next step would be? If you reported it to the police, did you get the name/collar number of the officer? If you reported it to the school, why haven't you asked about it since and whether anything's been done? OK, they may not be willing to tell you, but surely would say it had been actioned - if not, you would follow it up - and if nothing has been done by the police, then a written or emailed complaint (copying in your local MP?) is surely needed? It all comes across as really passive.

MissyB1 · 19/10/2023 13:14

Well done for making an effort OP, lots of people (including some here no doubt) would shrug their shoulders and say “none of my business”. For those saying why did she wait two weeks? She didn’t she reported it to the police at the time. Because the video is still being shared at school she’s now questioning whether the police informed the school, so she has informed the school herself- although they don’t seem terribly interested….

OP make sure it’s not on your dc’s phone.