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Those cool, messy, usually wealthy mums

607 replies

Shessodowntoearth · 18/10/2023 10:19

I want to be one 😅
Does anyone know the type?
Usually quite a few kids, at least two, kids are lovely, but generally quite messy/put together in a kooky way.
Houses are beautiful, but messy/disorganised, beautiful pieces everywhere/decoration but with a lived in/messy vibe. The mums are the same, usually seem quite disorganised but chilled out at the same time, generally away somewhere every school holidays and don’t work.
I know quite a few mums like this near me and wonder what this life is like, mainly the having more money. I’d love to be as laid back if people come around, to not care about the mess as the house is so incredible, to not worry if my kids clothes look scruffy in a cool way and to be comfortable in myself. Is this what happens when you come from money?

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DontDareToGetOld · 18/10/2023 17:46

GiraffeInABath · 18/10/2023 10:50

Carrie Johnson sums this up for me, if you check her Instagram. Personally, I love it!

WTF!

CloudyAgain · 18/10/2023 17:47

Cumbrianlife · 18/10/2023 17:01

I was behind exactly the mum and DC you describe in York last week. The DD looked like her hair hadn't been brushed in days and all were wearing subtly expensive creased clothes. If I'd taken my DC out like that when they were younger, I'd have been worried someone would call SS.

yeah there is a family like this near us. The mother is actually relatively famous in (local, regional) tv circles. her 3 kids are younger than my oldest (who is 13) and their hair is matted and smelly. My younger son had a sleepover with them a few years back and when i dropped off and picked up I was a bit askance at the sheer filth.

Every time I see her on tv so pristine I just think' why don't you wash your kids?'

MeMySonAnd1 · 18/10/2023 17:48

There were quite a few of them at DS’ private school. There was a direct relationship between relaxed scruffiness and wealth. The more money they had the less they need to prove, they simply didn’t need to pretend they were rich or keep up with the Joneses because… they were the Joneses? 😁

LilyThePinksDealer · 18/10/2023 17:54

Friend at school her mum and dad were posh as honey from Harrods yet their home looked like a squat. I still wanted to live there it was massive. They were vegetarians and bloody amazing in my eyes. I didn't know anyone else vegetarian.

School friend of my DD again posh, dad in UK is a surgeon, mum is a hat designer with her own business, took their kids out of school and lived in Gambia for a year. Massive house and grubby as anything. They gave me their DDs school uniform - it went straight in the bin. All with holes

BristolBlueGlasses · 18/10/2023 17:57

Jilly Cooper's novels are stuffed with women and homes like this and, if you read her autobiographical books she is like this too.

MiddleParking · 18/10/2023 17:58

TheSnootiestFox · 18/10/2023 17:33

Because I enjoy writing. And it's an anonymous Internet forum with a demographic I think based mainly at the other end of the country. Noone is going to approach me in real life and say Hello Fox, I read what you posted......

I bet they aren’t if they’d have to identify you from your internet autobiography 😂

fyn · 18/10/2023 18:00

We used a forest school nursery and the whole nursery was like this, children being dropped off at school by their nanny’s in hand me downs full of holes! I actually found it nice because there was no pressure.

LivelyBlake · 18/10/2023 18:00

littleripper · 18/10/2023 11:54

Hebden Bridge is chock a block with them. I found them quite adorable until lockdown when the oblivious and frankly offensive social media posting showed just how little understanding they have of regular peoples lives.

Same here

Mariposa123 · 18/10/2023 18:02

I feel this stereotype definitely fits me, although we’re not cash rich at the moment 😂

I try to make sure my house is clean, but keeping an immaculate house has never been a priority for me. I joke in too tired to both tidy and clean, so I’ll just sweep up around the toys rather than put them away first. Weekends are the only time I’d have the time or energy but then I’d rather spend time with my family doing more interesting things.

My mum is the same. House is clean but full of clutter.

sunnyseed · 18/10/2023 18:02

I live in a small market town that has seen an influx of families who have moved here from London/ the London area and there are loads of mums like this. I assume a lot of them have money from previously having highly paid jobs in the city and from selling their tiny shoebox home in London and being able to afford a huge home in their new town of choice with the proceeds. Of the ones I know quite a few of the husbands still have their city jobs and work part of the week from home and then commute to the London office one or two days a week. I definitely know the type you mean OP and yes I am jealous as would love to not have to work.

RubyBoozeDay · 18/10/2023 18:03

TheSnootiestFox · 18/10/2023 17:33

Because I enjoy writing. And it's an anonymous Internet forum with a demographic I think based mainly at the other end of the country. Noone is going to approach me in real life and say Hello Fox, I read what you posted......

Your username makes me smile because when I lived in Didsbury, the local druggie pub was The Snooty Fox. Lots of money there, apparently Wink

I'm glad your not a spoof account, but there was one poster on here who used to pretend to be very very upper-class, with a winter kitchen and a salt cupboard. Then she blew it all by posting a photo of her beautiful bedroom which was taken from google images and was really a hotel room in Paris. Bless her. I used to enjoy her tall tales.

BristolBlueGlasses · 18/10/2023 18:06

DontDareToGetOld · 18/10/2023 17:46

WTF!

Just had a look at Carrie Johnson's instagram. Photos of her kids playing with chickens and a very telling post about how she views women who are fastidious about cleanliness.

"Some fluffy friends joined us for tea 🐥
Nothing brings me more joy than seeing how much my children love animals ❤️
(and yes Karen, everything was washed throughly afterwards!)"

BristolBlueGlasses · 18/10/2023 18:08

Callie Coles - instagram full of toddlers crawling in puppy poo and ponies in the living room.

RubyBoozeDay · 18/10/2023 18:12

RubyBoozeDay · 18/10/2023 18:03

Your username makes me smile because when I lived in Didsbury, the local druggie pub was The Snooty Fox. Lots of money there, apparently Wink

I'm glad your not a spoof account, but there was one poster on here who used to pretend to be very very upper-class, with a winter kitchen and a salt cupboard. Then she blew it all by posting a photo of her beautiful bedroom which was taken from google images and was really a hotel room in Paris. Bless her. I used to enjoy her tall tales.

Quoting myself because I'm too late to edit.

You're not your. You are.

Crumbs, what an annoying mistake to make.

TheSnootiestFox · 18/10/2023 18:21

@RubyBoozeDay would it ruin my image if I told that you I lived just off the Princess Rd (next to Alexandra Park as it goes) in two different Halls when I was a student and also Withington Village in my last year? 😉

It was The Snooty Fox in Tetbury that actually inspired my user name 😁 I don't have a Winter Kitchen sadly but I used to do my shopping in Safeway in Chorlton and frequent the Horse and Jockey so I'm nearly the right sort! I do think it was being groomed by the Cheshire set on my course that set me on the road to ruin and cuddly chaps however 😉 and I've stayed incorrigibly County ever since 🤣

Dinkleberrys · 18/10/2023 18:21

So much botox you can't tell when they're farting or laughing; like a newborn baby.

Crazykefir · 18/10/2023 18:22

I asked my mum about hippies in the 60's she told me they were all rich. Everyone else had to go to work, don't think things gave changed much.

Lifeomars · 18/10/2023 18:22

Comedycook · 18/10/2023 11:18

You can be messy if your home is a stunning three floor Victorian house with beautiful period features and a huge kitchen/dinner extension with a glass ceiling and is stuffed full of expensive, good quality furniture.

If you live in a poky council flat which has seen better days with cheap furniture from Argos, being messy is quite a different look

So true, I am in a two up two down tiny end terrace and if I just have a few things out it looks an utter tip because is it so small. I do have some nice bits but have to put a lot of thought into how I display them otherwise it just feels claustrophobic. I have to be careful that my furniture is smallish and in proportion, I have plain walls as patterned wallpaper would make the walls feel as if they are closing in on me. I am obsessed with storage solutions as I am so limited for space and waste a lot of time online seeking out the elusive perfect solution and I have regular clear outs, plus abiding by the "if something comes in, something goes out" rule as I am a bit of a magpie,

Zakana · 18/10/2023 18:41

From where I live, lots of us mere “serfs” call them typical “middle Brighton mums”, very bohemian, smoke weed, walk around barefoot in the street as do their kids, crazy houses which are worth a small fortune in the right part of Brighton, and so on! The only reason I know this is because I have met many mums like this! Btw, the smoking weed isn’t obligatory to be a middle Brighton mum 😂

venus7 · 18/10/2023 18:41

GiraffeInABath · 18/10/2023 10:50

Carrie Johnson sums this up for me, if you check her Instagram. Personally, I love it!

You need more style than Carrie Johnson could buy to be one of these women.
Carrie Johnson is Primark with money.

venus7 · 18/10/2023 18:43

SleepingStandingUp · 18/10/2023 11:15

Yes.

The working class version is
"Too many kids, at least two, sure they're lovely but they always look messy, like Mom didn't care what they put on. The house is alright but it's always messy and disorganised, she's got a few nice bits but it's always looked so "lived in". Mom's the same, usually disorganised and doesn't even have the decency to care, she doesn't even work. aibu to think this is neglect and I should speak to the school?"

This. Double standards.

youngerself · 18/10/2023 18:48

Ime exactly the sort of parents who do not nit comb their children when asked to by school
Or leave it to the nanny

And these free spirited cherubs can be right pains in the arse behaviour-wise

venus7 · 18/10/2023 18:51

elliejjtiny · 18/10/2023 11:33

Me too. I would love that kind of lifestyle and to dress my boys in lovely bright colours from Boden and those Swedish companies rather than in clothes from asda who only do nice clothes for younger boys and seem to think that all boys over 10 want to wear black, grey and camouflage green. I have to go to the school uniform section and get sweatshirts and polo shirts in red, blue and yellow. But as a mum who doesn't have much money I always feel pressure to always have my dc and the house clean and tidy.

Boden don't do this look....though they wish to hell they did.

venus7 · 18/10/2023 18:53

LostButNeverFound · 18/10/2023 11:35

I don't live in an area where I'd meet many people like this but there are many who aspire to it (only up to a point though). Sharing photos of their 'scruffy' free spirited kids (weird how being free spirited always means they've chosen to wear tutu, wellies and Christmas jumper in trip to park in March). They can't quite bring themselves to go the whole hog and be scruffy themselves though and they definitely care what people think.

They wouldn't be 'sharing' photos.

scoobydoo1971 · 18/10/2023 18:54

I live in a very large period property that housed Brunel back in Victorian times. Large gardens and sea views. It is mortgage free and I have personal wealth so don't need to work again. This is due to property developing, consulting work and inheritance. I work for some kind of occupation, and not really for the salary. I am not tramp scruffy, but not a glamorous mother either. Makeup free, hair scraped back most days as have neither time nor inclination to do more. I live in leggings and baggy jumpers. As I work from home, I suppose people might think I was unemployed if they didn't know me well. My kids are not following the latest looks or trends, and never watch TV, and both are a bit eccentric like me. It is their choice to do what they want with their lives, within certain limits. My house is a disgusting mess. I used to be house proud but I have long given up caring, or knowing what happened to the Dyson. If we are all fed, kitchen sink is cleared, kids are washed and warm then my duties are done. This change in attitude came through illness, and that helps you focus on what is important rather than what people think. People might think I was lucky to be a millionaire with a professional background that lets me work for myself when I want (or choose not to). They might forget that wealth cannot buy you health, and if you have a bad genetic payload then no amount of Bohemian living is going to make that better. I am having major surgery soon for a cancer diagnosis with life changing consequences arising from the procedure. I had passing thoughts about how I might let district nurses in to check on me when the house is a large sprawling pig stye. They may faint. I may get cleaners in beforehand, and they may faint too. I may decide that if I have life threatening illness, visitors can judge all they like, and I can choose to ignore that judgement as life is too precious to spend all of it scrubbing floors. Sometimes financial circumstances let you not care what others think. In my case, I suppose I do care about living conditions, but haven't got many options to change things in this state. So, I just accept circumstances for what they are.