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Those cool, messy, usually wealthy mums

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Shessodowntoearth · 18/10/2023 10:19

I want to be one 😅
Does anyone know the type?
Usually quite a few kids, at least two, kids are lovely, but generally quite messy/put together in a kooky way.
Houses are beautiful, but messy/disorganised, beautiful pieces everywhere/decoration but with a lived in/messy vibe. The mums are the same, usually seem quite disorganised but chilled out at the same time, generally away somewhere every school holidays and don’t work.
I know quite a few mums like this near me and wonder what this life is like, mainly the having more money. I’d love to be as laid back if people come around, to not care about the mess as the house is so incredible, to not worry if my kids clothes look scruffy in a cool way and to be comfortable in myself. Is this what happens when you come from money?

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AbbeyGailsParty · 18/10/2023 16:57

Used to have one as a school mum. Poor kids turned up looking scruffy ( had to redress one from lost property for school photo) She’d turn up at random times to collect them, anything from 20-60 minutes late. Poor kid one day looked quite upset mum was the last to arrive and blurted out it was because she was having her legs waxed. Kids were lovely, I’m sure she was a nice person but please don’t leave your 7 year old the last in school week after week. Local doctor’s wife, private school.

Definitelyrandom · 18/10/2023 16:57

I'd never heard of Fabulosa till a couple of months ago when I bought it in Lidl as a one off because they were out of the own brand stuff. DH enthused about it because it was very good at degreasing. Apparently. The bicarb in it made the difference.

I vacuum the skirting boards (and the walls - cobwebs) occasionally but they get actually cleaned once in a blue moon.

mysocksarehaunted · 18/10/2023 16:58

I freak out if my kids hair is messy. Genuinely, it really upsets me. That and dust and clutter. The being indifferent to what others think is what makes the boho bunch seem cool. It's not really just money, its ingrained. Some people are naturally quirky, boho and scruffy. For others, it is an affectation started by rock star types in the 70's onward to copy those sort of quirky types as a reaction against the traditional, smart, middle class. Then others have followed suit because it's trendy (like you'd like to OP!😉) The boys from the boho middle class can be reliably and regularly spotted terrorising other children or breaking something at your local National Trust property or gastro pub-with-a-play-area. Their uniform is: something holey and stripey, matted brown, wavy hair and filthy, overgrown nails. They are always called something like Jonty or Rufus. And as someone said upthread, the uniform for the girls is a tutu and wellies, and preferably not a matching pair😁

LolaSmiles · 18/10/2023 16:59

I've only heard of Fabulosa on Mumsnet. Has Mumsnet moved on from the Zoflora obsession of yesteryear.

I hate scented cleaning products so I'm probably not their target market.

Cumbrianlife · 18/10/2023 17:01

I was behind exactly the mum and DC you describe in York last week. The DD looked like her hair hadn't been brushed in days and all were wearing subtly expensive creased clothes. If I'd taken my DC out like that when they were younger, I'd have been worried someone would call SS.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 18/10/2023 17:02

They make a terrible cup of tea because the goats milk is usually off (as is everything else in the fridge). Is goats milk ever nice though, even when it’s fresh?
I pet sit for a couple of mums like this. Open their fridges. I double dog dare you. 🤮

In fairness, the rotting food is all French and fabulous… but off.

Themermaidspool · 18/10/2023 17:02

Absolutely pissing myself at the 'Chorlton mums' I grew up in chorlton - it was like this 30 yrs ago and still is now. I now live in a relatively close spa town in a big old Edwardian house. There are elements of the original OP but it's mainly complete laziness coupled with hugely demanding jobs. I do ocado and I have a cleaner who is more like a house organiser. House is freezing though and there's rather alot of gin scattered around. Oh shit. I've turned into a Chorlton Mum.

Nowherenew · 18/10/2023 17:04

BristolBlueGlasses · 18/10/2023 16:41

I've cleaned for people who fit into this category and the truth is pretty grim if you scratch the surface. I've picked up dirty pants that have been left skid mark up on the landing floor, cleaned up behind pets - including a house rabbit that shat everywhere, fished used dental floss out from behind grimy bathroom taps and collected fag end, mould-filled crockery from bookshelves. I could go on. Not cool.

It’s disgusting.

I can’t actually believe I’m reading that these women want to be slobs.

caffelattetogo · 18/10/2023 17:06

Mine too. All used regularly, never dusted.

Josette77 · 18/10/2023 17:06

I own a two bedroom condo and live with my ds who has sn's. I don't have money but I have a beautiful, clean, and (in my opinion) a beautifully decorated place.

I don't like clutter and mess. I've known rich people who live both ways. I grew up poor but my mom made sure our home was nice, pretty, and clean.

If messy is a cool rich person thing, I'm happy being middle class and tidy.

Hibiscrubbed · 18/10/2023 17:10

TheSnootiestFox · 18/10/2023 16:53

@Hibiscrubbed because, as so often on Mumsnet, one writes something and then eleventy billion posters pile on and maintain it's not true, even though what is being described is lived experienced and actually happened or is happening.

Apparently I can't possibly be more bothered about making sure the kids are where they need to be than cleaning, I'm lying about what the firstborn gets up to at cadets although I imagine that information is freely available online, I'm a caricature because I'm living the same semi rural busy existence as most of my social circle and now even the hair that has been sprouting out of my head for 50 years is a thing of fantasy, although it's a greying chestnut now not tortoiseshell 😁 but the entire point of the thread has been missed (ie, there are those of us who have better things to do than clean and iron and who go through life giving off an impression of trying to be cool when actually we're not, we just have different priorities,) by nit picking and cross examination. I have never lived in Bermondsey or a council flat and find it incredulous that the lifestyle I live and witness every day around me is just so alien to some of you 🤣🤣🤣 God, you should meet the properly posh people that I know , who spend most Saturdays at this time of year shooting pheasant for about £800 a day or hosting said shoots and driving about in their ancient defenders while wearing breeks and garters. I'm just the poor scruffy one making a fuss of their dogs in the pub!

Now, for clarity, I don't give a shit about being judged for being untidy or going out having just pulled my hair back into a bun, thats how this conversation started, I DO very much mind being called a liar. There is a distinct difference and anyone with a modicum of intelligence and integrity will understand that.

You write a lot. About yourself. I think people are teasing you for the way you wrote about yourself. It is caricatured. The cuddly chap in the pub? One who smells deliciously of warm Malbec and damp waxed jacket… (I may have embellished).

I live a mad lifestyle between zone 1 and a hill farm. I have a scrubbed table. My hair is lot quite ask isteous as

mollyfolk · 18/10/2023 17:11

I relate to this stereotype- I’m messy, my kids are messy and I’ve always let them wear what they want. the house isn’t organized but we have a cleaner so it’s not too bad.

i do work and there is only an ordinary house though! Maybe it’s more of a personality type. Like I don’t think good parenting is about have brushed hair and clean floors.

birdglasspen · 18/10/2023 17:11

They come and stay in my self catering. They actually can’t clean certainly not in any ordered sense. I’m not saying they don’t try but they do random unnecessary things instead of the simple easy list asked of them.

their kids aren’t always that lovely.

my house is a riot and I only care for certain people but otherwise I just put up with it, what’s the point I. Tidying away toys when they erupt two seconds later.

Hibiscrubbed · 18/10/2023 17:12

My hair isn’t quite as lustrous as yours though, is what I was trying to say @TheSnootiestFox

My house is clean as fuck though.

If it helps, I’m now picturing you as Mary from Gogglebox…

BlossomOfOrange · 18/10/2023 17:13

there will definitely be an element of not being concerned about what other people think, due to the security of money as part of their identity, and as a means (along with time) to correct whatever needs to be at a moment’s notice. I can’t let things get really scruffy because I don’t have the means to correct it when it does-either money or time.

menopausalmare · 18/10/2023 17:14

Dog is groomed regularly but the children's hair hasn't seen a pair of scissors or a hairbrush in months.

TheSnootiestFox · 18/10/2023 17:14

Hibiscrubbed · 18/10/2023 17:12

My hair isn’t quite as lustrous as yours though, is what I was trying to say @TheSnootiestFox

My house is clean as fuck though.

If it helps, I’m now picturing you as Mary from Gogglebox…

That might actually be nearer 😁

And I'm educated and articulate, why would I write in a different style if it wasn't 'me'? Genuinely baffled 😬

Comedycook · 18/10/2023 17:15

menopausalmare · 18/10/2023 17:14

Dog is groomed regularly but the children's hair hasn't seen a pair of scissors or a hairbrush in months.

I assume you're exaggerating?

WinterDeWinter · 18/10/2023 17:16

JudgeJ · 18/10/2023 13:45

Oh my dear your ignorance is staggering! The Cheshire triangle is one of the most affluent areas of the UK! Being in the cobbled area of the M6 is very deceptive.

But it's not this kind of affluent is it, mainly? Much more self-made/ business/football etc?

Hibiscrubbed · 18/10/2023 17:18

TheSnootiestFox · 18/10/2023 17:14

That might actually be nearer 😁

And I'm educated and articulate, why would I write in a different style if it wasn't 'me'? Genuinely baffled 😬

I’m curious as to why you felt compelled to share so much of your life on this thread? I think that, coupled with the whimsical prose, is why people doubted you and thought you were a spoof. People from a certain background tend towards discretion, rather than feeling the need to tell everyone all about it.

Rudderneck · 18/10/2023 17:24

I have known plenty of mums like this, a lot of them Buddhists for some reason.

One I knew, she and her husband always had very nice clothes, hers in particular were one-off pieces that must have cost a fortune, kind of tailored hippy. But her kids, and son especially, always looked completely scruffy, with sweaters with holes in them, his hair in a non-haircut. (An expensive sweater with holes...)

They were nice but there was something about it I found a bit pretentious. Though if I had more money I might fall into that category because I like nice things but am not that tidy or organized.

BellenderCarlisle · 18/10/2023 17:26

BristolBlueGlasses · 18/10/2023 11:05

How does it work out in reality though? There must be an endless scramble to find gym shoes, the milk must always be off and the dust on all that stuff must be an inch thick.

Ha. That's exactly how it works out in reality. Nobody can ever find anything, ever. Everything from furniture to clothes is old/scruffy/passed round the family, but the DC's schools now charge £50k per year in fees so I'm bloody glad they are all at university.

I grew up like this and have carried the tradition on. I've never considered myself to be cool, though. Probably because I'm not.

The things I read about on MN that perplex me are skirting boards and mopping. What are people actually mopping? I don't possess a mop.

Loos and basins are clean, because it is genuinely easy to stick some bleach down a loo and wipe a basin with a magic sponge when the mood takes you.

Nice skirting boards, @whatkatydid2013. I like the decorative bit, too.

TheSnootiestFox · 18/10/2023 17:33

Because I enjoy writing. And it's an anonymous Internet forum with a demographic I think based mainly at the other end of the country. Noone is going to approach me in real life and say Hello Fox, I read what you posted......

Coffeeebean · 18/10/2023 17:34

Also Callie Coles - her life in the country looks divine and everything is fabulously chaotic

(This was a quote of an earlier post of an instagram account but it didnt work!)

MiddleParking · 18/10/2023 17:42

WinterDeWinter · 18/10/2023 17:16

But it's not this kind of affluent is it, mainly? Much more self-made/ business/football etc?

Cheshire? You don’t think there’s old money in Cheshire? Or generally in the North of England? Are you alright?

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