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AIBU to believe FIL time slip experience?

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elsiesbonnet · 15/10/2023 20:06

FIL was round yesterday evening for dinner with his wife. We were talking about the Uncanny podcast & recent TV episode then he told us of two experiences he'd had in the same place a number of years apart. After I went & did some research & asked a couple questions today, he's told us of another experience he had in the same place that was similar to one of the other experiences but that happened when he as a child.

I'm quite sceptical about paranormal type events I guess because I've never witnessed anything myself but am generally quite open minded. I don't believe FIL to be the type to make this sort of thing up & he was almost unwilling to tell us in case we thought he was crazy. He's never told anyone before.

AIBU to think what he experienced could've been real? In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up. Has anyone else experienced a time slip or some other paranormal event they couldn't explain? I'm intrigued!

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Mummyoflittledragon · 16/10/2023 05:51

Hardtime · 15/10/2023 22:53

I was driving my car, close to my home when the engine suddenly died. A BT workman had a wi-fi broadcasting box open and looked over sheepishly. The man had disappeared by the time the AA arrived and after some random (and entirely incorrect suggestions) we rolled the car twenty yards back down the hill and the engine started easily.
I'm sure that some kind of pulse that would normally be shielded by the BT cabinet being closed, interfered with the electronics in the car, stopping it in its tracks.
I wonder if these 'timeslips' are caused by electronic or magnetic fields interfering with people's brains and inducing hallucinations?
For those asking why those having these experiences don't use mobile phones or cameras, a relative recently suffered a brain injury which resulted in unusual language and perception affects that caused his friends to call an ambulance. The friends were surprised to be asked by the doctors if they'd filmed the affects - as though it was entirely normal to start filming someone you are having a conversation with.

Possibly younger people think to take their camera out. Our dog had a mild stroke when he was with dd and she recorded it. She was about 13 at the time. If these phenomenon are real, we may start to get more footage.

CurlewKate · 16/10/2023 06:03

"There's so much about the brain that we don't understand."

There's also a lot that we do. Dreaming, for example.

Pewpewbarneymcgrew · 16/10/2023 06:32

There’s an interesting time slip story about two ladies visiting Versailles
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/12/08/versailles-time-slip/

TravelInHope · 16/10/2023 07:00

Yes, absolutely true. Lots of people have funny feelings, which kind of proves that time travel happens regularly. And flying saucers.

LuciaPillson · 16/10/2023 07:10

Dedsec2023 · 15/10/2023 22:49

Plus Time travel is a fascinating idea, but it comes with a lot of tricky problems and moral questions. It might seem cool to prevent bad things from happening in the past, but it could also lead to some really unexpected and confusing stuff. Think of it like this: what if you went back in time and accidentally stopped your own grandparents from meeting? That could mean you'd never be born!

People love to write stories and make movies about time travel because it lets them explore all these complicated ideas. It's like a big puzzle that keeps our imaginations running.

I mean, we all know you can't save Joan Collins from getting hit by a car, no matter how saintly she is or how much Bill Shatner wants to shag her.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/10/2023 07:15

I have posted about this before but think it’s worth mentioning here.

My late DP was interested, sceptical and conflicted about “woo” - me, I’ve had plenty of high strangeness in my life which I treat “lightly” as rubber rooms don’t appeal.

So my DP lived as a child on the IOW . He had a vivid memory of being around 7 or 8 and recalled walking up his local high street and being struck by an eccentric looking older teen on the opposite side of the road walking with a group of older friends - this was in the late 70s. The way this teen boy was dressed stuck with him - he was wearing several items of clothing that were quite distinctive.

Fast forward a decade or so, when this had been long forgotten. He is now in his late teens. He’s walking down the High Street with his friends. He’s wearing his alternative style, including two or three signature items he had adopted due to music he was into at the time. (He continued to wear this look until he died in various iterations).

He saw a small boy looking at him from the other side of the road…. and swears it was himself as a young child. Small boy had his bowl haircut, was dressed in an identical typical 70s outfit chosen by his Mum….. it brought back the memory of being his small self and he recalled that as a child, the older teen had looked at him weirdly and seemed slightly “freaked out” as they clocked each other.

As I say, while he was creative and imaginative he was also very conflicted about the paranormal so found this most disconcerting and for him to be so sure about this experience suggests to me it was real and significant to him.

When we got together I had some very vivid dreams, one of which I can remember still in great detail. The recurrent theme was us both being at parties or gatherings and being separated as you do, then me trying to find him.

In one particular dream the venue was a fabulous old world pub / guest house, wood panels and beams, and we were having a wonderful time. Then I was looking for him and someone said he’d gone upstairs.

Upstairs were guest bedrooms and I opened a door to one. He was there, looking asleep and being tucked into a big four poster bed by my late Nana, my late Aunt, and my Mum who was still alive at this point. They didn’t see me initially and were talking amongst themselves which was most peculiar as after my Nana died, the family fell apart (it’s complicated) so there had been no contact between my Mum and my Aunt for years and the resentment ran very deep. The one sentence I heard as they tucked him in was “And she must never know” which jolted me awake. It was utterly bizarre and left me unsettled.

In retrospect I think it was foreshadowing of his untimely and unexpected death because my Mum had died 18 months or so before he did, so by then all three women were “in spirit” if you like. So I like to think it was a sort of message that they were looking after him in the next dimension or whatever happens “next”.

When you consider we are only scratching the surface of how and why we exist and how we operate I think it’s naive to write off weird experiences and immediately ascribe them to mental illness. In fact I think it hinders progress in understanding because there are probably many people who will not relate potentially important experiences because they are afraid of being sectioned or labelled nuts.

As Dirk Gently would say, everything is connected….. 😘

CurlewKate · 16/10/2023 07:23

@LuciaPillson "
I mean, we all know you can't save Joan Collins from getting hit by a car, no matter how saintly she is or how much Bill Shatner wants to shag her."

And no matter how many stone knives and bear skins you have.....

CesareBorgia · 16/10/2023 07:43

If you saw someone from the future in a time slip, you wouldn't necessarily know they were from the future. For the last 60 years or so, fashion has been cycling around the same things.

A person in the 1980s seeing someone in flared trousers would probably think they were dated, rather from the future of the 1990s when they came back in again. A person in the year 2000, if they saw someone from 2020 wearing a Covid mask, would probably think the person was ill or over-scrupulous about their health, rather than being a visitor from a future pandemic. You might think someone's clothes were unfashionable or even odd, but you'd assume they were retro or boho or any other of the dozens of niche styles, rather than futuristic.

Unless you subscribe to a 1960s sort of vision where we will all at some point be walking round in space-suits, I really doubt a future visitor would be immediately obvious.

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 07:43

CurlewKate · 16/10/2023 06:03

"There's so much about the brain that we don't understand."

There's also a lot that we do. Dreaming, for example.

And the vivid imaginations of small children, who are frequently encouraged by their parents to cultivate belief in imaginary beings like FC and the tooth fairy.

Toefingers · 16/10/2023 07:49

Yes, it’s possible myself (as an adult) and parents experienced a time slip or something similar.

We were staying in an old fisherman’s cottage by the sea and my dad made a video tour of the cottage to show other family when back home.

We went on with our holiday, didn’t get any weird vibes from the cottage, slept well and had a lovely time.

When we played the video back after arriving home, there was a man’s voice speaking in the background as clear as day during part of the video when my dad was silent.

We couldn’t work out what he was saying because he had such a thick Norfolk accent, which people don’t really have anymore. It couldn’t have been from next door as it wasn’t muffled, it was not muffled at all but a short sentence, in such a thick Norfolk accent and without context we couldn’t work out what the sentence was saying. It definitely wasn’t me or my mum as it was a man’s voice.

I haven’t really thought about it much since, it’s not really a big deal to us. Just something that can’t be explained. The video has been played multiple times and the voice always there.

Graciebobcat · 16/10/2023 07:49

I certainly wouldn't be without my vivid imagination as an adult or childhood belief in magic etc.

That doesn't mean I don't enjoy the rational explanations for these events or hearing about them.

Graciebobcat · 16/10/2023 07:54

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/10/2023 05:51

Possibly younger people think to take their camera out. Our dog had a mild stroke when he was with dd and she recorded it. She was about 13 at the time. If these phenomenon are real, we may start to get more footage.

I certainly wouldn't ascribe it to mental illness. The things you talked about are fascinating but I would consider them part of life and nothing supernatural.

Trampley · 16/10/2023 08:55

CaroleSinger · 15/10/2023 22:20

I know I've posted it before but here's one I've never been able to explain. When the pandemic started and I went for my vaccination I was given a raffle ticket on the door with a number they would call when it was my turn. I was stunned to see the ticket was number 283. My door number is 283. I thought what are the odds? Even the nurse joked I was obviously meant to be there that day.

A few weeks later I was going through a memory box of things we kept when my mum died. What's the first thing I pull out of her purse? A raffle ticket with the number 283 on it that she bought in 1980 and for some bizarre reason kept. Did she predict where I was going to live after she died? Is it a sign I am meant to be where I am?

It doesn't matter how I try to rationalize this, I just can't see it as a conicidence.

But that's so clearly just a coincidence. Nothing weird or unexplainable. People keep raffle tickets all the time.

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 09:12

We have a number that is significant in the family one is my Mum's birthday, my DD's birthday and my Gran died on my Mum's birthday. That number comes up again and again for things in our life sometimes not significant but other times important days.

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 09:27

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 09:12

We have a number that is significant in the family one is my Mum's birthday, my DD's birthday and my Gran died on my Mum's birthday. That number comes up again and again for things in our life sometimes not significant but other times important days.

But if you mean a date of the month, there are only 31 possibilities!

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 09:37

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 09:27

But if you mean a date of the month, there are only 31 possibilities!

I do but the same month!

Catleveltired · 16/10/2023 09:50

I think the TV series "ghosts" explained why people would be rubbish if they saw the future. Think of Mary describing the video camera as a cow with an eye. Imagine a child from the 1940s trying to explain an iPhone - they wouldn't have the language.

Not that I personally believe these things are likely! I just don't think "they don't happen with people seeing the future!" is a valid reason to discount them. That there's a more likely explanation (illness, seizure activity, stress etc) is why I think they're not probable.

Hurryupwearedreaming · 16/10/2023 09:56

This thread is a fascinating read, whatever your thoughts on the subject.
I recommend the novel by Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse Five. The main character Billy Pilgrim experiences time slips as part of the story. Time is described as like looking at a mountain range, it’s there all at

once. Billy, like the author, is coming to terms with his Second World War experience.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five

Slaughterhouse-Five - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five

ClemFandango1 · 16/10/2023 10:06

A handful of years ago, I had just dropped ds off at school, when I had the uncanny feeling that I still had a child to look after, andI should be able to look in the rear mirror and see a toddler girl sitting in a car seat on the left hand side of the back seat.
I was very much one and done at this point, so it was disconcerting.
A year or so later dd was conceived, and of course that's where her seat goes now.

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 10:06

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 09:12

We have a number that is significant in the family one is my Mum's birthday, my DD's birthday and my Gran died on my Mum's birthday. That number comes up again and again for things in our life sometimes not significant but other times important days.

If you survey a random group of just 23 people there is actually about a 50–50 chance that two of them will have the same birthday. It's just maths.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bring-science-home-probability-birthday-paradox/

Probability and the Birthday Paradox

A mysterious math problem from Science Buddies

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bring-science-home-probability-birthday-paradox

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 10:12

AllWeWantToDo · 16/10/2023 00:50

I've been on it and they didn't play any spooky soundtrack

I've been on it and they did play a spooky soundtrack. So at least some time during the lifetime of the attraction they have played a spooky soundtrack/screams/voices etc.

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 10:13

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 09:37

I do but the same month!

Well, my grandfather died on my birthday, and it was DS’s due date (though he was born early by CS), but I can’t say it’s ever struck me as more than pure coincidence. I have the same succession of date/month numbers in my NI number, but I only notice them out of the sequence because that combination says ‘birthday’ to me.

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 10:31

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/10/2023 07:15

I have posted about this before but think it’s worth mentioning here.

My late DP was interested, sceptical and conflicted about “woo” - me, I’ve had plenty of high strangeness in my life which I treat “lightly” as rubber rooms don’t appeal.

So my DP lived as a child on the IOW . He had a vivid memory of being around 7 or 8 and recalled walking up his local high street and being struck by an eccentric looking older teen on the opposite side of the road walking with a group of older friends - this was in the late 70s. The way this teen boy was dressed stuck with him - he was wearing several items of clothing that were quite distinctive.

Fast forward a decade or so, when this had been long forgotten. He is now in his late teens. He’s walking down the High Street with his friends. He’s wearing his alternative style, including two or three signature items he had adopted due to music he was into at the time. (He continued to wear this look until he died in various iterations).

He saw a small boy looking at him from the other side of the road…. and swears it was himself as a young child. Small boy had his bowl haircut, was dressed in an identical typical 70s outfit chosen by his Mum….. it brought back the memory of being his small self and he recalled that as a child, the older teen had looked at him weirdly and seemed slightly “freaked out” as they clocked each other.

As I say, while he was creative and imaginative he was also very conflicted about the paranormal so found this most disconcerting and for him to be so sure about this experience suggests to me it was real and significant to him.

When we got together I had some very vivid dreams, one of which I can remember still in great detail. The recurrent theme was us both being at parties or gatherings and being separated as you do, then me trying to find him.

In one particular dream the venue was a fabulous old world pub / guest house, wood panels and beams, and we were having a wonderful time. Then I was looking for him and someone said he’d gone upstairs.

Upstairs were guest bedrooms and I opened a door to one. He was there, looking asleep and being tucked into a big four poster bed by my late Nana, my late Aunt, and my Mum who was still alive at this point. They didn’t see me initially and were talking amongst themselves which was most peculiar as after my Nana died, the family fell apart (it’s complicated) so there had been no contact between my Mum and my Aunt for years and the resentment ran very deep. The one sentence I heard as they tucked him in was “And she must never know” which jolted me awake. It was utterly bizarre and left me unsettled.

In retrospect I think it was foreshadowing of his untimely and unexpected death because my Mum had died 18 months or so before he did, so by then all three women were “in spirit” if you like. So I like to think it was a sort of message that they were looking after him in the next dimension or whatever happens “next”.

When you consider we are only scratching the surface of how and why we exist and how we operate I think it’s naive to write off weird experiences and immediately ascribe them to mental illness. In fact I think it hinders progress in understanding because there are probably many people who will not relate potentially important experiences because they are afraid of being sectioned or labelled nuts.

As Dirk Gently would say, everything is connected….. 😘

I don't think either you or your partner were nuts or likely to be sectioned for reporting a feeling or a dream. But equally, I don't think you have presented very compelling evidence of anything extraordinary.

for him to be so sure about this experience suggests to me it was real and significant to him.

Yes. To him. He thought he was seeing himself as a child. And he was a highly creative person with a strong imagination. But there is no other reason to think this was anything more than deja vu.

And your dream was a dream. Not even a predictive dream.

I like to think it was a sort of message that they were looking after him in the next dimension or whatever happens “next”.

That would be a comforting thought, but there's no good reason to think it's true.

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 10:34

CaroleSinger · 15/10/2023 22:27

Ok, your door number just happened to be identical to a raffle ticket you were handed, then you go through a box of things you kept and find another single raffle ticket inside it with the exact same number on it, your door number. Not something that happens every day really, is it?

No, it's unusual. That's what makes it a coincidence.

  1. a remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without apparent causal connection.

Things that happen every day aren't conincidences.

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 10:40

justasking111 · 15/10/2023 22:40

Think about it. There would be no masts.

Think about it. Your phone doesn't need a signal to take and store a photo.