AIBU to believe FIL time slip experience?

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FIL was round yesterday evening for dinner with his wife. We were talking about the Uncanny podcast & recent TV episode then he told us of two experiences he'd had in the same place a number of years apart. After I went & did some research & asked a couple questions today, he's told us of another experience he had in the same place that was similar to one of the other experiences but that happened when he as a child.

I'm quite sceptical about paranormal type events I guess because I've never witnessed anything myself but am generally quite open minded. I don't believe FIL to be the type to make this sort of thing up & he was almost unwilling to tell us in case we thought he was crazy. He's never told anyone before.

AIBU to think what he experienced could've been real? In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up. Has anyone else experienced a time slip or some other paranormal event they couldn't explain? I'm intrigued!

I am a very logical-there-should-be-a-science-explanation person. I question everything, whether is paranormal or not BUT I have witnessed 3 things in my life that I really cannot explain at all so I don’t assume any more than my lack of experience on certain things means they don’t exist or other people are stupid.

There are so many things unfamiliar to us out there, we have not discovered everything yet.

My 15 year old keeps on experiencing things in our house. Never in our old house. He's very sensible. On Friday he heard and felt the biofold doors open and shut below his window. I was in bed with both my younger kids asleep in my room. I was awake but didnt feel or hear it ( mind you i wear earplugs). No one else here. He went to the stairs and said downstairs was in darkness. This is least of it. He definitely believes it's real. Never ever had anything like this with him before. All the kids have seen weird stuff there. Me to but it's out of the corner of my eye so could be my imagination.

I've had this happen. I don't discuss it as it sounds like I'm lying. Genuinely not though. It is very interesting.

This is a batshit riposte! The fantastic thing about knowledge is that, the more we know, the more idea we have about what we don't know. This guides scientists' efforts to discover new stuff, helping to make discoveries faster and thus expanding the horizons of human knowledge.

Here's my current favourite: We've been told that electrons have no position as such, only a probability of positions, and that the mere act of observing them causes them to change position. To be fair, 'real' scientists have never said this but have agreed it was a reasonable enough description. Meanwhile, they've been busy - for decades - working on attosecond photography, which uses super-fast strobes to capture shots of electrons where they actually are. Before long we'll have discernible movies of electrons zipping around, and pop science ideas about "quantum science says nothing is ever really anywhere" will get in the bin.

As Einstein predicted, time moves more slowly the further you get from a mass (like a planet) and the closer you get to the speed of light. This doesn't in any way suggest that part of Liverpool city centre flips between past & present for certain random visitors.

What millennia of scientific development have not signposted for continued investigation is the existence of ghosts, individual time-slips, precognition and all that. Indeed, further investigation led scientific establishments to abandon such lines of enquiry. There are still several unclaimed money prizes for any proof of the paranormal.

If it cheers anyone up, the possibility of 'inherited memory' is still under investigation 🙂 It's looking less & less likely - but is leading to fabulous new discoveries in the fields of epigenetics and microbiology.

I had an experience at work, also seen by a colleague. We were both sat alone in the office after hours, working at one computer. All of a sudden, I became aware of someone stood next to me, but a half step behind, so all I saw was their chest in my eyeline. We both said , did you see that? In the literal blink of an eye, it was gone. I’ve always put that down to a time slip. This was in, of all places, Basingstoke and Deane council offices, second floor. Hardly renowned for ancient ghostly sightings.

So many theoretical physicists on here tonight

he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up

So he had some detail about the past, that people in the current day don’t know, that nobody in the current day could imagine it invent, proves that it was definitely the past?

Or… he gave lots of detail, that there is no way of verifying? And because he has a serious demeanour you don’t think he’s likely to have made it up.

People hallucinate all sorts of shit.

I’ve had many predictive dreams. Some nice, others not so nice. My grandfather and my aunt had them too. I’ve also had situations where something in my head goes ‘I must ring x’ and then when I do, something has happened to them.

my maternal grandfather had the situation where he had the thought ‘I must visit Jim’ (my paternal grandfather. He described it as being a shouting in his head. They didn’t see each other often, but would drop in on each other every 4 months or so. My maternal grandfather drove down to find my paternal grandfather collapsed on the floor of his house, unable to move. He saved his life that day. All because something in his subconscious was persistent and rang alarm bells.

Isn't it relevant that it was time travelling to the past and not future? So his brain already knew what that place would have looked like in the past. It could've been a hallucination, dissociation, etc, anything neurological which is a pretty common phenomenon.

Whereas if you said someone travelled to the future and documented highly specific things (not just vague obvious predictions) which were eventually verified, then that would be convincing.

Not a time slip. But I'm constantly predicting things that happen before they happen. Random things, nothing life changing. They just pop into my head like 'the doorbell is going to ring and it will be the neighbour asking to borrow the ladders' which happened this week, even though they've never asked before and there was no reason to think they would. Sometimes it's pictures and sometimes it's words. Only my nearest and dearest know, because I say them out loud now. I would never tell anybody in real life, because they'd think I was a crack pot. It's not like I could 'read' somebody and tell them anything useful anyway.

I love the ‘well mobile phones don’t work in a time slip’ explanation - how this apparent phenomena causes two things: time travel and the prevention of evidence-gathering.

And wouldn’t most people experiencing time slips just end up in the empty void of space, what with the Earth constantly moving and all? Or is there teleportation involved too?

I've been on it and they didn't play any spooky soundtrack

To be more accurate, people TELL you all sorts of funny things.

In some cases, they actually believe them.

Somebody ate my porage yesterday morning.

I have a family member who regularly sees people dressed in Victorian clothes, going about their business. He has Charles Bonnet Syndrome.

I don’t find it hard to believe that some people genuinely have ‘time slip’ experiences…I just believe they are having hallucinations (something which is known to be common in humans, even otherwise healthy ones who’ve never had one previously) as opposed to momentarily travelling through space and time in a phenomena that is impossible to capture on camera…

Not only that - they are unverifiable.

BTW, the stuff about electrons and loads of other physics theories is really a kind of story told by intelligent homo sapiens which fits the observations (whatever an observation is)

That book list is comprehensive, but the authors of them do not all agree with each about many aspects of physics. And by the way, if you think you've understood Quantum Mechanics, then obviously, you haven't.

I have actually read A Brief History of Time, and it is quite a mathematical read if you really want to gain a proper insight into (some aspects of) modern physics.

For decades, I have been suggesting Mr Tompkins in Wonderland, by George Gamov for an introduction to some of the ideas of modern physics. It's very old, but the basic ideas are still the same. Each chapter is short, and they come in pairs. In the first of the pair, Gamov changes a variable, and shows what it would mean in real life (although actually this is an impossible fiction, it helps us poor ape folk get the idea).

For example, suppose the speed of light, c, which is a constant, is 10 mph? He uses this to explain Special Relativity. (I suggest you don't attempt to understand General Relativity (which is not in the book, I don't think). You Have Been Warned.) The second pair is the maths. I told those I recommended the book to not to bother with those.

Damn, edit time-out.
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For example, he considers what it would be like to ride a bicycle along a street if c was 10 mph. Nothing can exceed the speed of light...or so Einstein assumed.

And the first thing everyone^^ would say is FAKE! You can fake videos of absolutely anything these days. You'd be laughed off the internet

As I said - unverifiable

I have had a place slip rather than a time slip. I have had this happen a handful of times.
One evening sitting on the sofa I was suddenly transported elsewhere.

I couldn’t move (as though I was seeing things through the eyes of someone else) when all of a sudden something happened and I genuinely thought that although I had been sat at home on the sofa seconds before that my time was up and then I was back on the sofa. Told dh what I had seen and what I thought had just happened. He laughed and said I probably nodded off and was dreaming (I have never nodded off sat on the sofa before or since)

A little while later the tv programmes stopped to announce an incident that I had told dh all about a little while earlier. When the time of the incident was announced to the minute it was the same time I had “been there”

Should add that dh wasn’t laughing when they were announcing the incident.
He was quite spooked.

Was watching a documentary about what had happened and how they discovered what had gone wrong.

The programme hadn’t even started and I was telling dh about what had gone on. I think he was hoping I would be caught out when they documentary investigated the incident. Instead they showed their findings which were the same as mine.

Have you encouraged him to see his GP. This reminds me of something my friend was telling me before they got sectioned.

I find that as I get older my long term memory sharpens up. It is quite shocking. I will suddenly remember something that happened a long time ago that I had no recollection of before. I will suddenly remember all the quotes I learned for exams decades ago. Your FIl may years ago have read something or seen images of the past that lodged in his brain only to be released now.

@MasterBeth My prediction was correct that she had died, and it was nearly an hour working on her that they brought her back, I just hadn’t ‘felt’ her come back. In the hospital, minutes just before they came to tell us that they’d successfully resuscitated her, I mentioned to my mum that she was back.

I have a similar memory and I was also born in 1966.

But mine is watching the coronation being repeated, I think for the silver jubilee. I know my mum was keen to watch it as she couldn't in 1953 and there was only 1 TV in the house.

Love this story... creepy!