Page 10 | AIBU to believe FIL time slip experience?

elsiesbonnet · 2023-10-15T19:06:44+00:00

FIL was round yesterday evening for dinner with his wife. We were talking about the Uncanny podcast & recent TV episode then he told us of two experiences he'd had in the same place a number of years apart. After I went & did some research & asked a couple questions today, he's told us of another experience he had in the same place that was similar to one of the other experiences but that happened when he as a child. I'm quite sceptical about paranormal type events I guess because I've never witnessed anything myself but am generally quite open minded. I don't believe FIL to be the type to make this sort of thing up & he was almost unwilling to tell us in case we thought he was crazy. He's never told anyone before. AIBU to think what he experienced could've been real? In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up. Has anyone else experienced a time slip or some other paranormal event they couldn't explain? I'm intrigued!

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 10:46

Hurryupwearedreaming · 16/10/2023 09:56

This thread is a fascinating read, whatever your thoughts on the subject.
I recommend the novel by Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse Five. The main character Billy Pilgrim experiences time slips as part of the story. Time is described as like looking at a mountain range, it’s there all at

once. Billy, like the author, is coming to terms with his Second World War experience.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five

I agree it’s a great novel, but Billy Pilgrim has PTSD from his war experiences and also believes aliens shaped like sink plungers keep him in a zoo with a porn starlet on a planet called Tralfamadore! I wouldn’t have said it was any kind of compelling argument for time travel…

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/10/2023 10:51

@MasterBeth

Thank you for your rational perspective.

I’m sure you’re absolutely correct.

And I’m sure my other tales if weirdness can all be explained by yourself equally rationally.

No my dream wasn’t specifically a premonition but in hindsight it’s highly resonant and yes, comforting.

It is possible to experience weirdness and it’s often “personal”, without being ruled by it.

Your response just underscores my point that most people probably don’t tell others because they will be undermined and ridiculed.

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 10:53

sashh · 16/10/2023 04:25

I have a similar memory and I was also born in 1966.

But mine is watching the coronation being repeated, I think for the silver jubilee. I know my mum was keen to watch it as she couldn't in 1953 and there was only 1 TV in the house.

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Yes, the whole of the Queen's Coronation - seven hours of it - was indeed repeated in 1977:

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/841c6d489d7f465ba1ae7f85f88bca7d

BBC Programme Index

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/841c6d489d7f465ba1ae7f85f88bca7d

CurlewKate · 16/10/2023 10:56

@MistressoftheDarkSide "Your response just underscores my point that most people probably don’t tell others because they will be undermined and ridiculed."

I don't understand why seeking explanations is "undermining and ridiculing."

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 10:57

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/10/2023 10:51

@MasterBeth

Thank you for your rational perspective.

I’m sure you’re absolutely correct.

And I’m sure my other tales if weirdness can all be explained by yourself equally rationally.

No my dream wasn’t specifically a premonition but in hindsight it’s highly resonant and yes, comforting.

It is possible to experience weirdness and it’s often “personal”, without being ruled by it.

Your response just underscores my point that most people probably don’t tell others because they will be undermined and ridiculed.

I don't think anyone should be undermined or ridiculed for saying "I had a funny or strange experience." We all have funny and strange expeirences. They're really interesting.

I think people shouldn't leap to supernatural explanations for things that have much more likely rational explanations if they stop and think about it for a bit.

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 11:02

@MasterBeth, you’re ruining cherished ‘woo’ here! It’s reminding me of the time someone got very shirty with me on here when she said she’d seen a troop of misty phantom horses moving along Oxford St at dawn, and I pointed out that the household cavalry regiments often passed that way very early when returning to barracks after early exercise. 😀

Some people don’t want an obvious rational explanation.

Hurryupwearedreaming · 16/10/2023 11:03

Yes, Billy has ptsd from his trauma. It is a weird and wonderful novel. The author isn’t afraid of using an ‘out there’ story line to explore the human mind.

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 11:35

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 10:06

If you survey a random group of just 23 people there is actually about a 50–50 chance that two of them will have the same birthday. It's just maths.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bring-science-home-probability-birthday-paradox/

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I was just referencing birthdays, the probability of your Mum dying on your birthday is not going to be the same. However, that is not really my point, I am am artist, I don't believe that everything can be explained and rationalised, in fact IMO to do so violates essential imperatives of human nature. Realist perspectives are not the wholly Grail to me, it lacks the grandeur of what 'living' is about.

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 11:43

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 11:02

@MasterBeth, you’re ruining cherished ‘woo’ here! It’s reminding me of the time someone got very shirty with me on here when she said she’d seen a troop of misty phantom horses moving along Oxford St at dawn, and I pointed out that the household cavalry regiments often passed that way very early when returning to barracks after early exercise. 😀

Some people don’t want an obvious rational explanation.

Or maybe it's that some people think existence is not just made up of scientific facts, that it is more extraordinary than that!

Thehop · 16/10/2023 11:43

My little boy at about 2 used to know who he was before he was him. He knew a lot of detail about his life and couldn't possibly have been learned.

hes 14 now and had no recollection at all, but o believed him absolutely.

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 11:57

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 11:43

Or maybe it's that some people think existence is not just made up of scientific facts, that it is more extraordinary than that!

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In this specific instance, is it more likely to eve a ‘scientific fact’ that this poster actually encountered some of the household cavalry on one of their regular post-exercise trips back to barracks through central London, or was in fact visited by supernatural horses and riders from the past?

msssm · 16/10/2023 12:03

PurpleChrayne · 15/10/2023 21:32

Every time I'm on Bold Street, I loiter about, trying to disappear into the time slip 🤫

🤣🤣🤣

NortieTortie · 16/10/2023 12:27

Why do we never hear about it the other way around? Slipping years into the future or a group of people seeing someone with extremely advanced technology.

Same as ghosts. It's always a tragically young Victorian wench and never a caveman.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 16/10/2023 12:40

NortieTortie · 16/10/2023 12:27

Why do we never hear about it the other way around? Slipping years into the future or a group of people seeing someone with extremely advanced technology.

Same as ghosts. It's always a tragically young Victorian wench and never a caveman.

And reincarnation regression experiences. Everyone was an Egyptian prince or Anne Boleyn. Nobody was ever a chartered accountant who died in 1975.

Passepartoute · 16/10/2023 12:43

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 11:35

I was just referencing birthdays, the probability of your Mum dying on your birthday is not going to be the same. However, that is not really my point, I am am artist, I don't believe that everything can be explained and rationalised, in fact IMO to do so violates essential imperatives of human nature. Realist perspectives are not the wholly Grail to me, it lacks the grandeur of what 'living' is about.

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Loving the wholly grail. What is the partial grail, I wonder?

Daisybuttercup12345 · 16/10/2023 12:46

Namechangedagain20 · 15/10/2023 20:45

Pretty much everyone carries a phone with a camera and video these days. If time slips did happen the first thing most people would do is get their phone out.

The phone probably wouldn't work though.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 16/10/2023 12:50

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 11:02

@MasterBeth, you’re ruining cherished ‘woo’ here! It’s reminding me of the time someone got very shirty with me on here when she said she’d seen a troop of misty phantom horses moving along Oxford St at dawn, and I pointed out that the household cavalry regiments often passed that way very early when returning to barracks after early exercise. 😀

Some people don’t want an obvious rational explanation.

I pissed someone off here when she posted about her haunted rocking chair in a cold room of her house. To summarise: about half of the people who were told to expect a chilly feeling while sitting in it claimed to have done so. Once, a scarf fell off a peg while it happened.

I suggested she stick it in a busy shopping centre in midsummer and present it as a nice comfy place to sit down for a few minutes and see if anyone had a supernatural experience that way. Offence taken.

I do agree there are a lot of things we can't explain. (That's always been the case and so far, as knowledge advances, none of the discovered, proven explanations have involved the supernatural.) However, when you do have a clear and obvious explanation, the closed minded, regressive thing is to insist that can't be it.

Passepartoute · 16/10/2023 13:00

Daisybuttercup12345 · 16/10/2023 12:46

The phone probably wouldn't work though.

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Why not? It wouldn't need a signal to take a photo.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 16/10/2023 13:18

CesareBorgia · 16/10/2023 07:43

If you saw someone from the future in a time slip, you wouldn't necessarily know they were from the future. For the last 60 years or so, fashion has been cycling around the same things.

A person in the 1980s seeing someone in flared trousers would probably think they were dated, rather from the future of the 1990s when they came back in again. A person in the year 2000, if they saw someone from 2020 wearing a Covid mask, would probably think the person was ill or over-scrupulous about their health, rather than being a visitor from a future pandemic. You might think someone's clothes were unfashionable or even odd, but you'd assume they were retro or boho or any other of the dozens of niche styles, rather than futuristic.

Unless you subscribe to a 1960s sort of vision where we will all at some point be walking round in space-suits, I really doubt a future visitor would be immediately obvious.

There are some interesting old films which have been discussed online. One (?1920s or earlier) was a lady walking & apparently using a mobile phone. The theory is that it was actually some sort of hearing aid or the control for one, I think.

Found it: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/time-traveler-caught-in-1_n_775194

Another showed a crowd of people & one man seems to be wearing an absolutely modern outfit. But it was, as you say, a case of fashion being cyclical & he'd coincidentally put together items of clothing which were normal for his time, in such a way that it mimicked a fashion of our time.

Found it - it's just a photo https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/mystery-time-travelling-hipster-wearing-30140042

For a bit of fun: https://www.pocket-lint.com/photographic-proof-of-time-traveller/

btw, to all users of this thread, phenomenon is singular & phenomena is plural

'Time Traveler' Caught In 1928 Charlie Chaplin Film? (VIDEO)

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/time-traveler-caught-in-1_n_775194

Esgaroth · 16/10/2023 13:33

Brains are extremely fallible. They are not perfect machines that record information accurately. It's completely possible and extremely common to perceive things that are not real or fail to perceive things that are real.

It's crazy to me that people think that because they experienced something, that means it's definitely the truth. Things get mixed up. Our memories and perceptions can never be 100% reliable.

JohnThorntonsOverbearingMother · 16/10/2023 13:41

I do love a good time slip story. I like the one about the teenage boys in the 1950s who timeslipped back to medieval England

Spooky stories on MN are often accompanied with a ‘she’s very no-nonsense and not at all woo but…’

Whereas I am a bit woo and have never heard so much a clip clop from a headless horseman, or the rustle of a Victorian frock.

Kersey in 1957. Although Jack Merriott's watercolor presents an idealized image of the village – it was commissioned for use in a railway advertising campaign – it does give an idea of just how 'old' Kersey must have looked to strangers in the year it...

When Three British Boys Traveled to Medieval England (Or Did They?)

A 1957 "time traveler" recalls "a feeling of unfriendliness and unseen watchers which sent shivers up one’s back"

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/when-three-british-boys-traveled-to-medieval-england-or-did-they-35698485/

Springcleaninginsummer · 16/10/2023 13:42

And reincarnation regression experiences. Everyone was an Egyptian prince or Anne Boleyn. Nobody was ever a chartered accountant who died in 1975.

Actually, a lot of people report being someone very average in their past lives. I loved this series Tina's recollection of being Miranda is charming.

Have I Been Here Before? - Tina Baker (1/3)

Check out: http://www.andreafoulkes.co.uk/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qHZZ0G9EAo

PizzazzRoxyStorma · 16/10/2023 13:46

Dogwoes84 · 15/10/2023 22:20

I posted about this on the Uncanny thread in Telly Addicts earlier but here seems a better place for it...

In my early twenties I worked in central London and used to change tube stations as part of my commute home. What I'm describing was a very familiar journey that I'd been doing regularly for over a year at the time of my experience. That evening on my way home I got off the first tube and walked along the platform with the rest of the rush hour commuters (it would have been not long after 6pm and the station was packed). As usual, I turned down the passage towards the escalator, but suddenly realised that I was alone in the passage. When I got onto the escalator itself a few moments later it was very odd: I had the impression that the escalator was made of wood and the posters were very old and hanging in strips as though the escalator was undergoing refurbishment. I felt disoriented, like I was having a lucid dream or something. It was just an ordinary weeknight and I hadn't been drinking!

When I got to the top of the escalator I was in the crowded tickethall but facing the escalator I'd usually come up. I started moving towards it, very confused, then turned to see where I'd come from (assuming I'd accidentally turned onto a service passage or something) and couldn't find a door let alone an escalator. I even looked for another way off the platform on my way home from work the next day and couldn't work out where I'd managed to go and how I'd become separated from the flow of commuters / misjudged my usual root.

To be honest I don't know if what I experienced was a timeslip - maybe there really was a service passage or an old escalator and a door had been accidentally left open and I'd turned into it while lost in my own world, but that doesn't seem likely given my familiarity with the route, so it remains one of those experiences that vaguely unsettles me every time I remember it. In fact, I've tended to avoid that station ever since on the rare occasions I now pass through that part of London.

...Piccadilly Circus, by any chance @Dogwoes84 ?

Tatslookawful · 16/10/2023 13:51

If we’re in a simulation, this might also explain some of it or multi-dimensioned world.

Goldenbear · 16/10/2023 13:57

Passepartoute · 16/10/2023 12:43

Loving the wholly grail. What is the partial grail, I wonder?

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Oops, 😂