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AIBU to believe FIL time slip experience?

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elsiesbonnet · 15/10/2023 20:06

FIL was round yesterday evening for dinner with his wife. We were talking about the Uncanny podcast & recent TV episode then he told us of two experiences he'd had in the same place a number of years apart. After I went & did some research & asked a couple questions today, he's told us of another experience he had in the same place that was similar to one of the other experiences but that happened when he as a child.

I'm quite sceptical about paranormal type events I guess because I've never witnessed anything myself but am generally quite open minded. I don't believe FIL to be the type to make this sort of thing up & he was almost unwilling to tell us in case we thought he was crazy. He's never told anyone before.

AIBU to think what he experienced could've been real? In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up. Has anyone else experienced a time slip or some other paranormal event they couldn't explain? I'm intrigued!

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maddening · 15/10/2023 22:24

I think dreams and memories being triggered as a day dream

MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:25

Twilight7777 · 15/10/2023 22:16

I believe time slips exist, I think time is a lot more complicated than we have knowledge of (we as in humans I mean). I knew my friend had died on a Friday evening in a car crash (I couldn’t feel her is what I said) and told my mum and we drove to the end of the road where police were waiting and confirmed that there was an incident. Another friend received a phone call 5 minutes later confirming my friend was on way to hospital and that it wasn’t looking good. She had to be resuscitated at the scene but survived.

So your prediction was incorrect?

TheFireflies · 15/10/2023 22:25

ChristmasKraken · 15/10/2023 21:55

Out of curiosity, are there stories of these time slips happening in reverse? So people from earlier times mentioning people with futuristic clothes or gadgets walking in to their toy shop? Or do we have instances of people now having someone who looks like they're from the future appearing? And if not, why not?

This is the thing, right? If a whole group of people met a person with futuristic tools that they’d never seen before, it’s fair to say that at least one of them would have made a record of it somewhere, or passed tales down about what they’d seen. How come nobody ever has?

Brocollimatilda · 15/10/2023 22:25

NotTHEBupcake · 15/10/2023 21:44

I used to be a theoretical physicist, and I can tell you that we've only scratched the surface of how time and space work. Time slips etc could definitely be real phenomena - we don't know enough to say that they can't exist.

Of course, we also don't know enough about the human brain to rule out the possibility that they're some kind of hallucination or something.

Can you recommend any books? I have tried to read some quantum physics before and found my brain fried very quickly. Would love to understand a tiny bit of it.

SequentialAnalyst · 15/10/2023 22:26

I have experienced delusional hypomania, brains do funny things.

On a previous, similar, thread, someone said they saw a troop of horsemen from the Old Days, somewhere in London. Another poster piped up that the Royal Horse Artillery tend to practise in the early dawn, when the streets are clearer...

Dedsec2023 · 15/10/2023 22:26

Brocollimatilda · 15/10/2023 22:25

Can you recommend any books? I have tried to read some quantum physics before and found my brain fried very quickly. Would love to understand a tiny bit of it.

These books cover a range of topics related to physics, space-time, and speculative concepts that can expand your understanding of these subjects:

"A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking

This classic book delves into the fundamental concepts of space, time, and the universe. It's a great starting point for exploring complex ideas in theoretical physics.

"Black Holes and Time Warps: Einstein's Outrageous Legacy" by Kip S. Thorne

Nobel laureate Kip Thorne provides an accessible yet in-depth exploration of black holes, wormholes, and the concept of time warps.

"The Fabric of the Cosmos" by Brian Greene

Brian Greene offers a captivating journey through space and time, discussing the nature of reality and the mysteries of the universe.

"The Order of Time" by Carlo Rovelli

Carlo Rovelli examines the nature of time, its relativity, and how our understanding of it is evolving through the lens of modern physics.

"Warp: The Relentless Pursuit" by Michio Kaku

This book explores the concept of warp drive and the potential for faster-than-light travel, which is a popular topic in science fiction and theoretical physics.

"Time Travel: A History" by James Gleick

James Gleick explores the history and cultural aspects of time travel, providing a unique perspective on the concept.

"How to Build a Time Machine" by Paul Davies

Physicist Paul Davies discusses the science and philosophy of time travel, including the feasibility of building a time machine.

"Time Travel in Einstein's Universe: The Physical Possibilities of Travel Through Time" by J. Richard Gott

This book explores the theoretical possibilities of time travel based on Einstein's theories of relativity.

"Parallel Worlds" by Michio Kaku

Michio Kaku discusses the concept of parallel universes and their implications for our understanding of space, time, and reality.

"The End of Time: The Next Revolution in Physics" by Julian Barbour

Julian Barbour challenges our conventional understanding of time and explores a timeless universe.

These books offer a blend of scientific exploration and speculative ideas related to time and space, making them suitable for someone with a background in theoretical physics who wants to dive deeper into these fascinating topics.

nebulae · 15/10/2023 22:26

MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:24

Why can't you see it as a coincidence? That's literally what a coincidence is!

Precisely. It's nothing to do with a time slip. Just a coincidence. I've had more remarkable coincidences than that happen to me but I see them for what they are.

SureWhyNotThen · 15/10/2023 22:27

Boundoverbyacat · 15/10/2023 22:12

I've not experienced any slips but I've had some freaky dreams that stood out as odd. One being an old period house in a dark room with a woman sobbing in front of a mirror lit by candle light. She had what looked like funeral wear on, black up neck and hair in a bun. She stopped and turned and just stared really sad like she could see me

see what I mean? A random dream held up as evidence of time slips. Literally a random dream

In what possible way did I say that was a timeslip, I said it was an odd dream.

CaroleSinger · 15/10/2023 22:27

MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:24

Why can't you see it as a coincidence? That's literally what a coincidence is!

Ok, your door number just happened to be identical to a raffle ticket you were handed, then you go through a box of things you kept and find another single raffle ticket inside it with the exact same number on it, your door number. Not something that happens every day really, is it?

Cheerfulcharlie · 15/10/2023 22:27

@boredfuckinsenseless there is a fascinating theory called inherited memory where it may be possible for people to inherit the memory of events etc from your parents. Was the memory something that your mum or dad remember experiencing?

ifIwerenotanandroid · 15/10/2023 22:27

Todayiscool · 15/10/2023 22:03

I had an interesting experience with time and dreams once (a bit like @BananaPyjamaLlama ) - as a child I had recurring dreams about the same house - sometimes good dreams, sometimes bad ones, but it was often the 'set' for the dream irrespective of what the 'storyline' was.

Then, when I was about 25y/o I visited a friend's aunts house (friend was housesitting for her aunt) and it was the house I'd dreamed of. The moment I walked in, I knew every inch of the house, including the furniture (things like the normal-depth, then shorter-depth step down between the hall and kitchen, and the too big Art Dec dresser in the guest bedroom).

And if I had forgotten those childhood dreams it'd be easy to say it was some sort of deja vu, but I remembered the house from my dreams with pinpoint accuracy for many years between stopping having the dreams, and being in the actual house.

I am not 'woo' (I wish I were woo-er, but I just don't have the ability to suspend disbelief for long enough).

Is it possible that you actually visited this house as a child but forgot that you had done so?

I find it interesting that the same house reappeared many times as a setting, no matter what was going on. I've had this for years: in my dreams there's a garden centre, a road system & a pub which don't exist in reality (as far as I know) but which reappear in my dreams from time to time. Over the years it's got more elaborate: at first I just drove to the garden centre & back on this big, busy road with a traffic light controlled crossroads, & the garden centre never had anything I wanted. Then the pub appeared, then I went inside it, then I would arrive at the pub from different directions, & now things link up via more roads. But the core things remain the same & I've no idea why.

I have another similar scenario which recurs & when I'm in it now I guess I'm lucid dreaming, because I think, 'Oh yeah, it's this one, I know what happens now."

margotrose · 15/10/2023 22:29

sammyjoanne · 15/10/2023 22:16

Something similar happened on a ghost hunt at the galleries of justice. We was in court, and it was just a handful of us in the room and we all heard heckling and jeers, like a replay of the past was being played.

That's part of the experience 🤦🏻‍♀️

Bellyblueboy · 15/10/2023 22:31

elsiesbonnet · 15/10/2023 20:48

I haven't said it couldn't be made up. I just said it'd be unlike him as he's not that type of person. Generally quite cautious, serious and straight forward.

He should go to his doctor. This sounds like a mental health issue. People dismiss these early symptoms.

Hallucinations occur frequently in psychiatric conditions such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, post-traumatic disorder and borderline personality disorder, as well as in other disorders such as dementia and Parkinson's.

It is highly unlikely he experienced a time slip. But if he goes to his GP qnd
explains he honestly believes this he will get checked out. You aren’t doing him any favours by believing him.

Luddite26 · 15/10/2023 22:31

I know @MasterBeth you may scream at me in a minute, but my experience was at Kirkham Priory not Fountains Abbey, which would have been a totally different experience road wise.

justasking111 · 15/10/2023 22:32

Started watching a series on Amazon Prime tonight that covers time slips really gave me the woo. It's called Outer Range.

woofwoofandwoof · 15/10/2023 22:35

@ChristmasKraken
Out of curiosity, are there stories of these time slips happening in reverse? So people from earlier times mentioning people with futuristic clothes or gadgets walking in to their toy shop? Or do we have instances of people now having someone who looks like they're from the future appearing? And if not, why not?

I read something interesting on another thread (sorry can't remember who by think it was one of the spooky stories threads running) about how recordings of the past exist in the form of film and photographs which are man made inventions.

So we know "a live" recording of something that happened in the past can exist in the form of a film or video.

Who's to say that outside the existing sphere of human knowledge that the "universe" can't itself have that kind of thing - a sort of past recording as it were.

and it could appear to you that you are having a live interaction when you aren't.

so if you walk into a shop and see an oldie worldie shopkeeper who says "how can a help you" it maybe what he was saying to anothr person historically.

Not saying I'm a believer but I was really interested in this idea of the fact of a recording of past times existing.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 15/10/2023 22:37

Luddite26 · 15/10/2023 21:59

I know @MasterBeth that is the likely explanation. And I would say the same and expect 99.999% of people to think that.
I know for certain we didn't go the wrong way.
I will never know why we couldn't see it.
If I had been alone in the car I wouldn't have bothered but neither of us could see it. Everything else that is there was.

You hadn't been speaking to Derren Brown just before that, had you? 😂I once saw him on TV somehow convince someone that the London Eye had disappeared & they really couldn't see it, but there it was.

MrsElsa · 15/10/2023 22:38

Todayiscool · 15/10/2023 22:03

I had an interesting experience with time and dreams once (a bit like @BananaPyjamaLlama ) - as a child I had recurring dreams about the same house - sometimes good dreams, sometimes bad ones, but it was often the 'set' for the dream irrespective of what the 'storyline' was.

Then, when I was about 25y/o I visited a friend's aunts house (friend was housesitting for her aunt) and it was the house I'd dreamed of. The moment I walked in, I knew every inch of the house, including the furniture (things like the normal-depth, then shorter-depth step down between the hall and kitchen, and the too big Art Dec dresser in the guest bedroom).

And if I had forgotten those childhood dreams it'd be easy to say it was some sort of deja vu, but I remembered the house from my dreams with pinpoint accuracy for many years between stopping having the dreams, and being in the actual house.

I am not 'woo' (I wish I were woo-er, but I just don't have the ability to suspend disbelief for long enough).

I had a similar thing happen. I had a dream about going upstairs to hide from a party and hiding in a room. Some time later maybe a few months later I went to visit someone's house for the first time, never been there before, none of the rest of the house was familiar at all. But they opened the door to their parent's bedroom and I nearly collapsed in shock, it was the room in the dream. Every detail.

There were parties there later and I did want to hide. But I never did hide and definitely never went in that room again. I was only 14 and pretty freaked out.

I have had a few dreams with very detailed buildings. Sometimes wondered if any of them exist too. But it doesn't bear thinking about does it! Life goes on as normal and that's all we can say.

Brocollimatilda · 15/10/2023 22:40

Dedsec2023 · 15/10/2023 22:26

These books cover a range of topics related to physics, space-time, and speculative concepts that can expand your understanding of these subjects:

"A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking

This classic book delves into the fundamental concepts of space, time, and the universe. It's a great starting point for exploring complex ideas in theoretical physics.

"Black Holes and Time Warps: Einstein's Outrageous Legacy" by Kip S. Thorne

Nobel laureate Kip Thorne provides an accessible yet in-depth exploration of black holes, wormholes, and the concept of time warps.

"The Fabric of the Cosmos" by Brian Greene

Brian Greene offers a captivating journey through space and time, discussing the nature of reality and the mysteries of the universe.

"The Order of Time" by Carlo Rovelli

Carlo Rovelli examines the nature of time, its relativity, and how our understanding of it is evolving through the lens of modern physics.

"Warp: The Relentless Pursuit" by Michio Kaku

This book explores the concept of warp drive and the potential for faster-than-light travel, which is a popular topic in science fiction and theoretical physics.

"Time Travel: A History" by James Gleick

James Gleick explores the history and cultural aspects of time travel, providing a unique perspective on the concept.

"How to Build a Time Machine" by Paul Davies

Physicist Paul Davies discusses the science and philosophy of time travel, including the feasibility of building a time machine.

"Time Travel in Einstein's Universe: The Physical Possibilities of Travel Through Time" by J. Richard Gott

This book explores the theoretical possibilities of time travel based on Einstein's theories of relativity.

"Parallel Worlds" by Michio Kaku

Michio Kaku discusses the concept of parallel universes and their implications for our understanding of space, time, and reality.

"The End of Time: The Next Revolution in Physics" by Julian Barbour

Julian Barbour challenges our conventional understanding of time and explores a timeless universe.

These books offer a blend of scientific exploration and speculative ideas related to time and space, making them suitable for someone with a background in theoretical physics who wants to dive deeper into these fascinating topics.

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Thank you so much - that’s brilliant

justasking111 · 15/10/2023 22:40

MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:00

That's handy.

Think about it. There would be no masts.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 15/10/2023 22:41

CaroleSinger · 15/10/2023 22:27

Ok, your door number just happened to be identical to a raffle ticket you were handed, then you go through a box of things you kept and find another single raffle ticket inside it with the exact same number on it, your door number. Not something that happens every day really, is it?

No, but that's why it's a coincidence. I would expect it to happen somewhere. It would be odder if it never did.

Elvis1956 · 15/10/2023 22:41

If time travel was real, don't you think we would all know someone from the future, or Hitler would have been executed by a Jewish person, or we would have been warned about covid/Spanish flu/chernobyl/etc

FlemishHorse · 15/10/2023 22:42

You’ve been watching too much woo woo Pre-Halloween crap TV.

Wouldyoube · 15/10/2023 22:43

MillieVonPinkle · 15/10/2023 21:43

Only one weird experience that makes me believe in...I don't know...paranormal, sixth sense, whatever. But there's no logical explanation for it.

I was 14 and my youngest sibling 2. My mum was good friends with the woman next door who was watching my sister for a bit as my mum was getting ready to go out...dsis was next door with neighbour.

Me and mum were in the dining room. I was sitting at the table eating and she was opposite me but with the chair turned away and her back to me, putting make up on.

She visibly flinched then said 'pack it in!'. I hadn't moved an inch so said 'what?!' indignantly and she sighed and said she just wasn't in the mood today (I was baffled).

Twenty seconds later she span around at speed and said that was enough, she'd nearly poked her eye out with the mascara that time. I was totally confused and said I hadn't done anything to which she replied 'you've pulled my hair twice now, now knock it off' or similar.

Then she just stared at me and a look came over her face I'll remember forever. She looked sick, panicked, just wrong. She jumped up and shouted at me to go get my sister. I seriously thought she'd lost the plot. She pushed me to and out the door and said go get her NOW (she was in her dressing gown). But I argued, as teens do. Thought she was having a mental breakdown.

She flew past me out the door and went and banged next doors door - no answer. So she opened it and went in. I went back inside, rolling my eyes and went back to eating.

Ten minutes later she came back in with dsis white as a sheet. The neighbour had been sleeping on the couch and there was no sign of dsis anywhere. After a frantic search of the house, mum had ran outside and back down the street where she found dsis about a minute away, sitting on the edge of the riverbank on her own - we assume she'd walked there.

Mum said after feeling two sharp pulls on her hair she just had the strongest feeling something was wrong and almost like there was a voice saying go get the baby.

I had something not completely unlike this happen today on a smaller scale.

I was on the sofa this eve writing a shopping list and toddler DS was toddling in and out of the living room. Not unusual, the flat is quite well baby-proofed, and he's free to go between the living room and his bedroom.

Out of nowhere I was overcome with an all encompassing and terrifying urge to run like fuck and find him even though I'd only seen him a few seconds prior. I've never had a feeling like that before and it was completely out of the blue

I shot up like a bolt of lightning and found him in the bathroom, stood on his toddler steps leaning over the (full) bath that I had run ready to get into once DH returned from the shop.

After running the bath I had most definitely closed the door and clicked it shut. DS cannot reach the handle. I had no reason to worry or suspect he'd be able to get into that bathroom. But he did.

In hindsight my older DC must have opened it but the thought wouldn't have even crossed my mind, yet alarm bells went off in my head and, like your mums story, it was almost as if a voice was shouting "get DS NOW!"

So I'm not sure about paranormal involvement but mother's intuition is definitely a thing.

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