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AIBU to believe FIL time slip experience?

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elsiesbonnet · 15/10/2023 20:06

FIL was round yesterday evening for dinner with his wife. We were talking about the Uncanny podcast & recent TV episode then he told us of two experiences he'd had in the same place a number of years apart. After I went & did some research & asked a couple questions today, he's told us of another experience he had in the same place that was similar to one of the other experiences but that happened when he as a child.

I'm quite sceptical about paranormal type events I guess because I've never witnessed anything myself but am generally quite open minded. I don't believe FIL to be the type to make this sort of thing up & he was almost unwilling to tell us in case we thought he was crazy. He's never told anyone before.

AIBU to think what he experienced could've been real? In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up. Has anyone else experienced a time slip or some other paranormal event they couldn't explain? I'm intrigued!

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MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 21:59

ChristmasKraken · 15/10/2023 21:55

Out of curiosity, are there stories of these time slips happening in reverse? So people from earlier times mentioning people with futuristic clothes or gadgets walking in to their toy shop? Or do we have instances of people now having someone who looks like they're from the future appearing? And if not, why not?

Aliens built the pyramids, amirite??!

Devilsmommy · 15/10/2023 22:00

@JethroTullandhishorse not stupid enough to believe it but definitely stupid enough re "unstupid" 🤣🤣🤣

elsiesbonnet · 15/10/2023 22:00

@ThomasinaLivesHere see my reply to @Marynotsocontrary

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MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:00

Bigbadmama · 15/10/2023 21:34

@Namechangedagain20 anecdotal evidence is that mobile phones don't work if you are in a time slip.

That's handy.

PaperEater · 15/10/2023 22:02

Devilsmommy · 15/10/2023 22:00

@JethroTullandhishorse not stupid enough to believe it but definitely stupid enough re "unstupid" 🤣🤣🤣

Simpsons Thats The Joke GIF

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Todayiscool · 15/10/2023 22:03

I had an interesting experience with time and dreams once (a bit like @BananaPyjamaLlama ) - as a child I had recurring dreams about the same house - sometimes good dreams, sometimes bad ones, but it was often the 'set' for the dream irrespective of what the 'storyline' was.

Then, when I was about 25y/o I visited a friend's aunts house (friend was housesitting for her aunt) and it was the house I'd dreamed of. The moment I walked in, I knew every inch of the house, including the furniture (things like the normal-depth, then shorter-depth step down between the hall and kitchen, and the too big Art Dec dresser in the guest bedroom).

And if I had forgotten those childhood dreams it'd be easy to say it was some sort of deja vu, but I remembered the house from my dreams with pinpoint accuracy for many years between stopping having the dreams, and being in the actual house.

I am not 'woo' (I wish I were woo-er, but I just don't have the ability to suspend disbelief for long enough).

MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:04

YoghurtCoatedMeerkats · 15/10/2023 21:53

When I was a child I read a book entitled The Amazing Mr Blunden. I can remember now how I felt 50 years ago reading it as it was the first book that really made me stop and think. One thing that particularly struck me was an explanation by the title character of how time isn't linear, it's circular. It was described (if I remember correctly) as like a bicycle wheel with spokes, and people could in certain circumstances cross the wheel and overlap with another place in time. I do believe there are many things we haven't yet learned about the universe, and our understanding of time is included in that, so I wouldn't necessarily disregard your FIL's experiences.

When I was child I read a book entitled The Cat In The Hat. That was also a kid's story book which had nothing useful to tell us about the theory of time.

LeefsPrings · 15/10/2023 22:05

Passepartoute · 15/10/2023 21:05

What would be the scientific mechanism that would make this possible?

Well, since time is relative and not absolute, and even quantum physicists don't know how many dimensions there are, then it is entirely possible that there's a way this could happen.

Tatslookawful · 15/10/2023 22:05

@YoghurtCoatedMeerkats & ‘when the will is strong enough & the need great enough’. :)

For me, there’s a place I know, privately owned. I have visited many times over the years. It’s as if it shifts, it’s highly charged, differing scenes & times & if you can tune in to right frequency…

ifIwerenotanandroid · 15/10/2023 22:06

Wintersgirl · 15/10/2023 21:42

Phones wouldn't have worked though. I believe one man tried that.

If you could take pictures no one would believe you anyway..

Could you use an ordinary camera, not a phone camera?

Applesaarenttheonlyfruit · 15/10/2023 22:07

In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up

Have you read any Hilary Mantel? People have amazing imaginations.
Have you watched The Crown? Again it’s all fiction, but fuck, it’s easy to believe.

SureWhyNotThen · 15/10/2023 22:08

I like the theory of parallel universes, where there's infinite universes that are different. When one ends the previous slips into another and nobody realizes, things aren't quite the same but not necessarily so different that you would notice.

There was a teenager in America who studied that stuff on YouTube showing his work on it, how people remember things differently to what they are now. Apparently, 'magic mirror on the wall' like people remember it being and I'm pretty sure I remember it that way, is actually 'mirror mirror on the wall'. There's other examples but a lot of people remember it that way while others remember it as it is now. Something along the lines of those who remember it as it is are from this timeline and those who don't have slipped.

Could be nothing but interesting.

I've not experienced any slips but I've had some freaky dreams that stood out as odd. One being an old period house in a dark room with a woman sobbing in front of a mirror lit by candle light. She had what looked like funeral wear on, black up neck and hair in a bun. She stopped and turned and just stared really sad like she could see me.

Needless to say I woke up and shit myself (not literally) and couldn't go back to sleep.

UndertheCedartree · 15/10/2023 22:08

Bellyblueboy · 15/10/2023 21:19

My friend is a police officer.

A man used to come to station about events that he saw in the news - he claimed he had dreamed about them years before, forgotten about them and then remembered when he watched the news. He though his sixth sense could be useful to the police.

she kindly explained to this poor man that if he only remembered the dream after the actual event took place it wasn’t much help. He couldn’t grasp her point!

That sounds like my ex-DH when seriously mentally unwell.

MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:09

LeefsPrings · 15/10/2023 22:05

Well, since time is relative and not absolute, and even quantum physicists don't know how many dimensions there are, then it is entirely possible that there's a way this could happen.

There is a long, long way between "this may in theory not be impossible because there is a lot of theoretical physics we haven't yet explored and don't understand" and "Fountains Abbey disappeared for a bit." A long way.

nebulae · 15/10/2023 22:10

The posters talking about time travel are misunderstanding what a time slip is theorised to be. Its not a person actively, purposely traveling backwards or forwards in time, more like two "times' overlapping. I'm not clever enough to wrap my head around the physics but it helps if you think about time as not being linear. Just because we experience it as linear doesn't mean it necessarily is.

Boundoverbyacat · 15/10/2023 22:10

How do you know it's not? I'm not saying I think it is, but people experience things that can't always be explained. So how do you explain it?

because if time slips happened they’d happen also to credible people. How do you explain it? A lot of ways, lying, psychosis, dreaming. All of these are a million times more plausible than your fil experienced a bloody time slip

Boundoverbyacat · 15/10/2023 22:12

I've not experienced any slips but I've had some freaky dreams that stood out as odd. One being an old period house in a dark room with a woman sobbing in front of a mirror lit by candle light. She had what looked like funeral wear on, black up neck and hair in a bun. She stopped and turned and just stared really sad like she could see me

see what I mean? A random dream held up as evidence of time slips. Literally a random dream

MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:15

nebulae · 15/10/2023 22:10

The posters talking about time travel are misunderstanding what a time slip is theorised to be. Its not a person actively, purposely traveling backwards or forwards in time, more like two "times' overlapping. I'm not clever enough to wrap my head around the physics but it helps if you think about time as not being linear. Just because we experience it as linear doesn't mean it necessarily is.

There is a long, long way between "this may in theory not be impossible because there is a lot of theoretical physics we haven't yet explored and don't understand" and "the OP's father in law experienced the olden days." A long way.

sammyjoanne · 15/10/2023 22:16

Something similar happened on a ghost hunt at the galleries of justice. We was in court, and it was just a handful of us in the room and we all heard heckling and jeers, like a replay of the past was being played.

Twilight7777 · 15/10/2023 22:16

I believe time slips exist, I think time is a lot more complicated than we have knowledge of (we as in humans I mean). I knew my friend had died on a Friday evening in a car crash (I couldn’t feel her is what I said) and told my mum and we drove to the end of the road where police were waiting and confirmed that there was an incident. Another friend received a phone call 5 minutes later confirming my friend was on way to hospital and that it wasn’t looking good. She had to be resuscitated at the scene but survived.

CaroleSinger · 15/10/2023 22:20

I know I've posted it before but here's one I've never been able to explain. When the pandemic started and I went for my vaccination I was given a raffle ticket on the door with a number they would call when it was my turn. I was stunned to see the ticket was number 283. My door number is 283. I thought what are the odds? Even the nurse joked I was obviously meant to be there that day.

A few weeks later I was going through a memory box of things we kept when my mum died. What's the first thing I pull out of her purse? A raffle ticket with the number 283 on it that she bought in 1980 and for some bizarre reason kept. Did she predict where I was going to live after she died? Is it a sign I am meant to be where I am?

It doesn't matter how I try to rationalize this, I just can't see it as a conicidence.

AIBU to believe FIL time slip experience?
Dogwoes84 · 15/10/2023 22:20

I posted about this on the Uncanny thread in Telly Addicts earlier but here seems a better place for it...

In my early twenties I worked in central London and used to change tube stations as part of my commute home. What I'm describing was a very familiar journey that I'd been doing regularly for over a year at the time of my experience. That evening on my way home I got off the first tube and walked along the platform with the rest of the rush hour commuters (it would have been not long after 6pm and the station was packed). As usual, I turned down the passage towards the escalator, but suddenly realised that I was alone in the passage. When I got onto the escalator itself a few moments later it was very odd: I had the impression that the escalator was made of wood and the posters were very old and hanging in strips as though the escalator was undergoing refurbishment. I felt disoriented, like I was having a lucid dream or something. It was just an ordinary weeknight and I hadn't been drinking!

When I got to the top of the escalator I was in the crowded tickethall but facing the escalator I'd usually come up. I started moving towards it, very confused, then turned to see where I'd come from (assuming I'd accidentally turned onto a service passage or something) and couldn't find a door let alone an escalator. I even looked for another way off the platform on my way home from work the next day and couldn't work out where I'd managed to go and how I'd become separated from the flow of commuters / misjudged my usual root.

To be honest I don't know if what I experienced was a timeslip - maybe there really was a service passage or an old escalator and a door had been accidentally left open and I'd turned into it while lost in my own world, but that doesn't seem likely given my familiarity with the route, so it remains one of those experiences that vaguely unsettles me every time I remember it. In fact, I've tended to avoid that station ever since on the rare occasions I now pass through that part of London.

MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:21

sammyjoanne · 15/10/2023 22:16

Something similar happened on a ghost hunt at the galleries of justice. We was in court, and it was just a handful of us in the room and we all heard heckling and jeers, like a replay of the past was being played.

I hope you're joking.

(For those who don't know, the Galleries of Justice is a Nottingham tourist attraction where they literally play in spooky soundtrack recordings of things as part of the experience.)

You know, like a replay of the past is being played.

WelshNerd · 15/10/2023 22:23

Yabu but I'm the fool who read this.

MasterBeth · 15/10/2023 22:24

CaroleSinger · 15/10/2023 22:20

I know I've posted it before but here's one I've never been able to explain. When the pandemic started and I went for my vaccination I was given a raffle ticket on the door with a number they would call when it was my turn. I was stunned to see the ticket was number 283. My door number is 283. I thought what are the odds? Even the nurse joked I was obviously meant to be there that day.

A few weeks later I was going through a memory box of things we kept when my mum died. What's the first thing I pull out of her purse? A raffle ticket with the number 283 on it that she bought in 1980 and for some bizarre reason kept. Did she predict where I was going to live after she died? Is it a sign I am meant to be where I am?

It doesn't matter how I try to rationalize this, I just can't see it as a conicidence.

Why can't you see it as a coincidence? That's literally what a coincidence is!