AIBU to believe FIL time slip experience?

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FIL was round yesterday evening for dinner with his wife. We were talking about the Uncanny podcast & recent TV episode then he told us of two experiences he'd had in the same place a number of years apart. After I went & did some research & asked a couple questions today, he's told us of another experience he had in the same place that was similar to one of the other experiences but that happened when he as a child.

I'm quite sceptical about paranormal type events I guess because I've never witnessed anything myself but am generally quite open minded. I don't believe FIL to be the type to make this sort of thing up & he was almost unwilling to tell us in case we thought he was crazy. He's never told anyone before.

AIBU to think what he experienced could've been real? In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up. Has anyone else experienced a time slip or some other paranormal event they couldn't explain? I'm intrigued!

I think this was the part of your post that pp was referring to -
"In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up."
So what was the significant detail that you couldn't just make up? I'm also interested.

Phones wouldn't have worked though. I believe one man tried that.

If you find him to be a reliable person I would believe his experience, although whether it’s a time slip or some stress response or something else I don’t know. My mother used to have predictive dreams about people known to us. She would tell me about them before what they predicted came to pass, usually a few days later. It was never anything good, always illness or accidents or death. I’m glad I don’t have them. I don’t know what the explanation is.

I will throw this in the hat and I am not asking for believers or logic.
My husband and I drove down to visit Kirkham Priory in North Yorkshire.
We have passed many times but we had just joined English heritage and thought we would quickly visit.
We drove down the road and over the railway track. It wasn't there.
We drove up to the pub on the other side turned round and looked again.
It really wasn't there.
We did this a few times and drove off. I said it must have been demolished! No idea why.
We went home and googled it nothing anywhere about it being demolished.
Anyway we have passed it many times since and I'm pleased to say it is back.
And every time we pass the end of the road on the A64 we say I wonder if it's there today! And I don't feel embarrassed saying it out loud.

What do you want? A Harvard referenced bibliography?

@Timetravlerswife thats a very typical Bold Street Timeslip story. the slips often only last a few seconds.
Bold Street, Liverpool, UK - Time Slip Central. Caused by circular underground railway system? : r/Glitchinthe_Matrix (reddit.com)

I had one once.
I was walking down the high street when it morphed into this retro Thatcherite-80s dystopian hell hole.

And then I realised I was in Weston-super-Mare.
Still unstupid enough to not believe in this shit.

No, my power of flight happened once as a child and once more recently. I can't summon it at will, I'm afraid, but it definitely happened.

Phones wouldn't have worked though. I believe one man tried that.

If you could take pictures no one would believe you anyway..

Only one weird experience that makes me believe in...I don't know...paranormal, sixth sense, whatever. But there's no logical explanation for it.

I was 14 and my youngest sibling 2. My mum was good friends with the woman next door who was watching my sister for a bit as my mum was getting ready to go out...dsis was next door with neighbour.

Me and mum were in the dining room. I was sitting at the table eating and she was opposite me but with the chair turned away and her back to me, putting make up on.

She visibly flinched then said 'pack it in!'. I hadn't moved an inch so said 'what?!' indignantly and she sighed and said she just wasn't in the mood today (I was baffled).

Twenty seconds later she span around at speed and said that was enough, she'd nearly poked her eye out with the mascara that time. I was totally confused and said I hadn't done anything to which she replied 'you've pulled my hair twice now, now knock it off' or similar.

Then she just stared at me and a look came over her face I'll remember forever. She looked sick, panicked, just wrong. She jumped up and shouted at me to go get my sister. I seriously thought she'd lost the plot. She pushed me to and out the door and said go get her NOW (she was in her dressing gown). But I argued, as teens do. Thought she was having a mental breakdown.

She flew past me out the door and went and banged next doors door - no answer. So she opened it and went in. I went back inside, rolling my eyes and went back to eating.

Ten minutes later she came back in with dsis white as a sheet. The neighbour had been sleeping on the couch and there was no sign of dsis anywhere. After a frantic search of the house, mum had ran outside and back down the street where she found dsis about a minute away, sitting on the edge of the riverbank on her own - we assume she'd walked there.

Mum said after feeling two sharp pulls on her hair she just had the strongest feeling something was wrong and almost like there was a voice saying go get the baby.

I used to be a theoretical physicist, and I can tell you that we've only scratched the surface of how time and space work. Time slips etc could definitely be real phenomena - we don't know enough to say that they can't exist.

Of course, we also don't know enough about the human brain to rule out the possibility that they're some kind of hallucination or something.

@Marynotsocontrary ok technically you could have researched the area to know what was there before, specific clothing worn, technical information, how the buildings were laid out etc. But he's never spoken about anything like this before so must've studied it on the off chance that this conversation would come up one day maybe? I don't know. I've known him 10 years, my other half had never heard these stories nor had his wife. He'd kept it to himself as he was worried about perception.

I think it's more likely that you went the wrong way and didn't realise.

Do you really think it is more likely that everything science knows is wrong or that you went the wrong way and didn't realise?

We’re all going through a time slip at the moment following Brexit, economic decline back to the 1950s

What a peculiar question. If we knew this then it would be proven. Or are you suggesting that we know everything there is to know about the universe?

Theres plenty of discussion around the theoretical physics in relation to time travel in scientific journals. You can just do a search.

When I was 14/15 I was walking home from school, about to cross a road, when I heard a horrible crash sound, so loud and terrifying, I jumped and stumbled back.

There was nothing. Nothing whosoever to explain the noise. I looked around, stood on the spot, completely confused, for a few seconds.

I was about to start walking again when a car coming out of a junction collided with a car turning into the junction, just 10 meters away (I was safe on the pavement). It was the exact same sound.

The only explanation I have is that the shock of it was a bit traumatic and I'm remembering wrong, because it's impossible I heard the crash before it happened.

I think our brains can make us think/feel/remember/hallucinate so we truly believe we had an experience, but we didn't.

You said: “he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up” in your original post. That’s what I was asking about.

I had a time slip, didn’t know about them till years later but this event troubled me for a long time when I was little. I was 4/5 at the time, had gone out with my dad and brother in the van to run an errand (early 80s). We ended up at a farm which at the time, stuck me as very very odd as we were meant to be going shopping, there were lots of workers in the yard tending to machinery and a lady in the kitchen of the house - she was wearing 1950s clothes and she had a funny smell, my dad told me not to be frightened but I was very upset by this lady’s presence. She was kind to me but there was something “not quite right”. I remember being worried for my little brother. She kept asking me to take food and to eat it but I didn’t like the look of it.

It felt like we were there for about 5 minutes and I couldn’t wait to get away. The other thing was that it was really warm and sunny there but when I got back to real life it was cold and cloudy. It was so lifelike and real I can still picture it all.
I remember being very fidgety in the way home and my dad being annoyed with me, I told him I didn’t want to go back there and he told me not to mention the lady again. I’ve never told anyone this story.

Me too. Once I ended up miles away in Keith's wine bar and I had to change my user name.😎

When I was a child I read a book entitled The Amazing Mr Blunden. I can remember now how I felt 50 years ago reading it as it was the first book that really made me stop and think. One thing that particularly struck me was an explanation by the title character of how time isn't linear, it's circular. It was described (if I remember correctly) as like a bicycle wheel with spokes, and people could in certain circumstances cross the wheel and overlap with another place in time. I do believe there are many things we haven't yet learned about the universe, and our understanding of time is included in that, so I wouldn't necessarily disregard your FIL's experiences.

Could you point out anyone on this thread who is so arrogant as to believe that we know everything about the universe?

(I can point out several people on this thread who are so arrogant as to believe that their personal perception is so infallible that it's more possible that everything we know about science is wrong than they are mistaken, misremembering or misinterpreting what they see or hear.)

Out of curiosity, are there stories of these time slips happening in reverse? So people from earlier times mentioning people with futuristic clothes or gadgets walking in to their toy shop? Or do we have instances of people now having someone who looks like they're from the future appearing? And if not, why not?

Did your dad and brother see all this? What did they make of it?

Why do you think it's more possible that everything we know about science is wrong than you are mistaken, misremembering or misinterpreting what your 4 year old self thought she had seen or heard?

I know @MasterBeth that is the likely explanation. And I would say the same and expect 99.999% of people to think that.
I know for certain we didn't go the wrong way.
I will never know why we couldn't see it.
If I had been alone in the car I wouldn't have bothered but neither of us could see it. Everything else that is there was.

I’m not saying it’s impossible for time to slip but it’s something for which there is no hard evidence.

I once had an experience where time slowed down to almost a complete stop and then I saw the near future laid out like a comic book strip frame by frame and was able to see what everything that was about to happen and then time kind of went back to normal only all of the things I saw started to play out. I was on a lot of recreational drugs at the time so obviously I know it was not real, but it certainly felt like it was! If I hadn’t been on drugs and experienced such a hallucination I would have thought I had been in some kind of time warp.

We know that people can hallucinate and otherwise mix up reality with delusions. Obviously often this is as a result of a chronic condition or drug taking, but that’s not to say somebody couldn’t have a vivid hallucination as a one off. That seems a lot more likely to me than a time slip and obviously if that was the case the person would believe it had happened themselves because hallucinations are often imperceptible from reality to those experiencing them.

When something weird happens it is usually the most likely answer that is the true one and I would say a strange hallucination is a lot more likely, based on evidence we have about human experiences, than a time slip.