AIBU to believe FIL time slip experience?

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FIL was round yesterday evening for dinner with his wife. We were talking about the Uncanny podcast & recent TV episode then he told us of two experiences he'd had in the same place a number of years apart. After I went & did some research & asked a couple questions today, he's told us of another experience he had in the same place that was similar to one of the other experiences but that happened when he as a child.

I'm quite sceptical about paranormal type events I guess because I've never witnessed anything myself but am generally quite open minded. I don't believe FIL to be the type to make this sort of thing up & he was almost unwilling to tell us in case we thought he was crazy. He's never told anyone before.

AIBU to think what he experienced could've been real? In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up. Has anyone else experienced a time slip or some other paranormal event they couldn't explain? I'm intrigued!

so stargate sg1, solar flares and time travel with the correct tech, seems possible ?

AND explains why Auntie Thelma believes she was Cleopatra in a past life. Or Joan of Arc if there’s an ‘r’ in the month.

I don’t believe in the paranormal. I’ve never had a premonition or anything.
One time decades ago I was at my friend’s house out in the country - it was old but not spooky and it was next door to an old sawmill called Ivory Pine (formerly owned by the (Merchant) Ivory family of film fame).
Long story short, we were laughing about a really lame tv movie that was on about this teenage witch and they said they had a resident ghost. This was all amidst much laughter. I had known this family my entire life.
I had to use their toilet - it was dark in that part of the house, and their WC was at the foot of their stairs, off the kitchen. After I finished, I stepped up on the landing in the dark and reached out for the kitchen doorknob - which wasn’t there, and footsteps started coming down the wooden stairs. I felt up & down the door - no doorknob, all the while the footsteps kept descending the staircase. Deliberate footsteps. I frantically felt up and down, searching for the doorknob.
I’m sure this lasted 30 seconds or so, but it freaked me out. It felt like 30 minutes.
Finally the doorknob appeared under my hands and I flew into the kitchen and the other room, where my friend and her family were still laughing and talking.
I am not one for hysteria or to be overwrought, but that one experience scared the absolute shit outta me.
Nothing like that has ever happened again.
That was 50 years ago and I can still remember the absolute panic I felt.

I've not rtft but there's been lots of threads on here about that kind of thing.

Auntie Matrix on Tik Tok reads out stories sent to her. Some are more paranormal than glitch in the matrix stuff but she's been sent similar stories to what your FIL says. Some are really fascinating.

My older son (who is now 18) was exactly the same. I got a very strange call from nursery one day when he had spent the whole morning telling staff in great detail the work he used to do on railway tracks with his Father. He has always been obsessed with trains but at that point had just turned 3, couldn’t read and had only ever seen Thomas the tank engine. The information he gave was so incredibly detailed, he described the trucks, helping to lay the wooden tracks and the burning sun. They lived in a kind of hut near the tracks they were laying. I got so far as to showing him photos/videos of stuff to try and figure out what sort of time he was remembering but then he suddenly stopped speaking about it so I left it. From what he said, I don’t think it was in this country. Whole thing was very bizarre.
Not the same thing at all but my MIL saw a medium after her Dad died 20 years ago. She told her something relating to me that only her, me and my DH knew. The whole thing is recorded on a CD and I was literally shaking as I listened to it. I was very sceptical before but there is no way that she could have known this information.

I've just watched episode 1 of Uncanny. The part where the child saw the old man in the corridor and he seemed as shocked and scared as her was very interesting. Like they were each others ghosts. I know someone who often sees ghosts. He is very matter of fact about it - never tries to convince people - it just is what it is. I asked him whether the people he sees ever also see him and he said they often do. Absolutely fascinating. And now I'm too scared to go out and lock the garage!!! 🤣

As a small child living in a Tudor age property I may have time slipped my mother certainly believes I did because I met and described people in the house in detail that I had interacted with, she said there was no other way that I could have known.

My grandparents came to stay and my grandfather experienced something he left immediately dragging my grandmother with him. All he would say was that there was evil there. Now he was a hard headed scotsman not given to flights of fancy who had dug out the living and dead in London during the blitz

It's never happened again anywhere else.

I meant that I’m so tired of that argument.
Apparently I was feeling very lazy when I posted that as I couldn’t muster up the energy for anything more than an emoji 😀

@mrsconradfisher, @Thehop, my youngest brother also had detailed 'memories' of his adult life, at age 3 or so. He said he was a farm hand, from his tales it would seem before the introduction of farm machinery. That could've been any time up to the 1950s, though. No idea where he got it all from - we lived in the industrial midlands, but I guess older people around us may have told stories from their more rural pasts. He doesn't recall this phase.

I have met my 'other self' and she made a huge difference to my life! She came in to my bar, ordered a drink and we both noticed we were nearly clones. So did everyone else there. We even had the same cackling laugh. We got talking, naturally, and turned out she worked in a field that really interested me. She gave me good advice on how to get started.

We even had the same - very unusual name 😮

I ended up in a career I absolutely loved, similar to hers. I never met her again but here's the glitch: lots of other people did meet her, thinking she was me. Naturally enough, they got miffed when I seemed to be totally blanking them and, if they called her by name, claiming not to know them. Many of these people were clients of mine; it was a problem. Worse still, it seems she had an alcohol issue (even more than I did) so I acquired a reputation for not being where I should have been - and actually was - getting loudly drunk with people who were not connected to my own job. It caused very real problems.

No fucker believed it wasn't me. I found her in a trade directory, but people will rather hang onto their first assumption than accept the unlikely reality. This went on for years. At times I even doubted myself, despite my printed evidence. I was ridiculously grateful when an old friend ran into 'other me' and said he was initially confused, but then realised her style of dress was out of character for me and he'd met my mystery doppelganger!

I did ring her direct line from the trade directory. Someone else picked up, offered to get her, then came back saying "She doesn't want to speak to you and asks you not to call again." Left my number just in case, but nothing. It's an uncanny story all right, but it ain't paranormal 👀

I mentioned this before, but would be interested if someone felt like tackling it…

The Earth is constantly moving through space, as is the Sun. If I, or anyone else, went forward or backward in time, but my physical location didn’t change, I’d just be in space and promptly die.

For these time travel events to make sense, you’d presumably have to be instantly transported hundreds of millions of miles (then back again) without even noticing. I don’t know how the human body could even survive that, or how the mysterious phenomena causing this would somehow know the exact spot to teleport you to?

’Multiverse’ explanations would seem to be a bit more credible, time travel just doesn’t really seem to make sense outside of fiction.

Don't ask awkward questions, @Overcooker 😏

When I was 8 or 9 I had a dream I walked through the cupboard in my grandfather’s room into a bright purple room that hurt my eyes. It was such a realistic dream and my mum dismissed it as too much Narnia.

Ten years later parents built a purple ensuite to that room and the door was exactly where the cupboard had been. It had white light and hurt my eyes.

When I was 15 I walked down a street, saw someone I knew,
and said ‘hi x’. They frowned and asked how they knew me. I was so confused and said of course you know me I’m x. Twenty years later this person is my closest friend but he has no memory of this initial meeting - in fact he was in the USA at the time it happpened

Just coincidence I think.
My NI number is the same as my parents' home phone number (for 30 years)

@GarlicGrace

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I’m a massive skeptic and do not believe in fantastical things that have no real evidence. Ghosts, fairies, psychic powers, etc, etc, etc. I just don’t buy any of it.

Still, I’d suggest that all of those things, along with other things that are fringe even in ‘woo’ circles, like the existence of vampires or werewolves, are far, far more likely than ‘time slips’.

Ghosts, psychic powers and alike merely have no good evidence, but I couldn’t and wouldn’t say they are impossible. Time travel, as being described in here, not only has no good evidence but seems to actually be impossible (unless caused and directed by some omnipotent deity, I guess).

You are not the least unreasonable to believe that he had that experience. You may find one day he's proven right, or that the mechanism for the experience is understood. Then again, you may not. Here's the problem...there is almost no serious study into paranormal experiences, because mainstream science laughs those who attempt to study it out of business. Lord knows, they laughed at those who insisted that diseases are caused by wee, tiny bugs that we can't even see...and for a LONG time.

Without being rude , Has he Dementia or Parkinson’s maybe ? Love the book the Time Travellers wife mmm imagine of time travel was possible though … I think it’s something to do with wormholes .. religion wise there’s a quite this life is a drop in the ocean and apparently your days on this earth will be like a couple of minutes …compared to eternal life in heaven where 100s of years can go past. Reminds me of that Manifest series loved it ! It could be possible OP who knows

De ja vu is a thing and as many said you can preempt something if you think about it during the day or something particular worrying you comes to a head in your dreams - could be your body’s way of processing stuff you have not quite worked through in your brain - no expert

So many things in the past were openly mocked and dismissed as impossible before SCIENCE proved it not only COULD be done, but also HAS been done.

I'll NEVER be one to dismiss the possibility of time slips I feel they may just be an extension of astral projection and psychic ability.

I personally have had precognitive/prophetic dreams and they used to scare me when I'd get them as a kid. Any that I've had since becoming an adult, I view as a gift because each shows me I'm where I'm supposed to be in life.

Why would time slips be impossible when seeing the future, and some say visiting the future, isn't impossible? It wouldn't make sense.

Lord knows, they laughed at those who insisted that diseases are caused by wee, tiny bugs that we can't even see...and for a LONG time

I listened to a couple of podcasts about hauntings - one in a Welsh farmhouse and one a South London house. I’m on the fence about my own beliefs around this topic. Some of the evidence for the hauntings was compelling and some against was compelling. However I felt the “expert “ skeptic (a Psychologist ) doggedly presented incredibly weak explanations for some of the phenomena. I would have had more respect if he’d said “ I can’t explain that”. It wouldn’t have mattered what evidence was presented he was not going to change his view. I don’t think it’s the job of science to defend the position that certain things are impossible I think it’s their job to explore with an open mind ( I appreciate psychology is not a classic science as such). Some of the skeptics on this thread have presented themselves in an abrasive, condescending manner which implies they’ve got a logical answer for everything when really there’s so much we don’t yet understand.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here. There’s open minded scientists (esp on the field of theoretical physics who are increasingly discovering things aren’t quite as we thought) and people who for whatever reason don’t want to or are incapable of contemplating that there is something more than the physical world currently described by classical physics.

Their restricted materialist view can only see the world through their philosophy, one that is very modern in the grand scheme of things. Science has only begun to scratch the surface of reality, most actual scientists know that.

it’s interesting re psychologists. This is a really new field, given the origins of psychology I find it very interesting the way it’s turned in an effort to be included with the scientific chaps down the hall. A notable example of this is Chris French. Most of his “experiments” that he thinks give conclusive evidence cabt be shot down with logic.

Tgeres just no understanding that the scientific method just isn’t fit to measure something not of the material world.

Not sure if it’s ’time slip’ but strange..
My DS from the age of about 3 used to talk about his ‘other mummy’ who he chatted about quite regularly telling me about her and how he fell from her arms one day and was caught by me. He was confused as to why I didn’t remember the event. This went on for years & he could still remember the feeling of having this previous life though couldn’t explain it. He’s now 20.
He is my natural son, I gave birth to him.

Lord knows, they laughed at those who insisted that diseases are caused by wee, tiny bugs that we can't even see...and for a LONG time

The discovery of wee tiny bugs we can't see is a triumph of the scientific method, not a rebuttal of it!

A phenomenon was observed (people get sick) and theories were tested, experiments were undertaken, possibilities were considered until the weight of evidence was such that the theory was accepted.

Science is built on the idea that ideas are questioned and a weight of good evidence will change understanding. But it's also built on rigorous questioning and testing of possibilities.

It's not enough to observe something you perceive as strange and declare it to be caused by supernatural. It's part of the scientific method to consider other possibilities. It's not closed-minded to do so

That's exactly what Danny Robins did. Found the woman who the original narrator of one of the more striking Bold Street stories claimed to have spoken to. She didn't froth. Just described exactly what she had seen, and confirmed that another man spoke to her at the time - and was clearly seeing what she was seeing. But given how aggressive many non-believers are, (why, I wonder? Is it fear of the unknown? I can understand scepticism but not the outrage) it's no wonder that anyone who has experienced anything similar tends to keep quiet about it.

I do it all the time. Dream faces I've never seen before, I mean. Lots of people, in vivid colour. I did it last night. Frankly, my dream life is often more exciting than my real life!

Yes, witness statements offer ample proof of this!! An incident with multiple bystanders all seeing completely different things, different descriptions of perpetrators/victims etc.

You can discount about 9/10 ths of the stuff on here solely on the grounds of hearsay, the person witnessing the phenomenon being half-asleep or newly-woken and disoriented, often in the dark, or because the person is remembering something from childhood.

Include the ones witnessed by nervy people in a new house or other unfamiliar environment, or involving pets behaving oddly, or people with a poor grasp of coincidence, and that’s pretty much the lot.