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AIBU to believe FIL time slip experience?

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elsiesbonnet · 15/10/2023 20:06

FIL was round yesterday evening for dinner with his wife. We were talking about the Uncanny podcast & recent TV episode then he told us of two experiences he'd had in the same place a number of years apart. After I went & did some research & asked a couple questions today, he's told us of another experience he had in the same place that was similar to one of the other experiences but that happened when he as a child.

I'm quite sceptical about paranormal type events I guess because I've never witnessed anything myself but am generally quite open minded. I don't believe FIL to be the type to make this sort of thing up & he was almost unwilling to tell us in case we thought he was crazy. He's never told anyone before.

AIBU to think what he experienced could've been real? In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up. Has anyone else experienced a time slip or some other paranormal event they couldn't explain? I'm intrigued!

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SkySecret · 16/10/2023 19:53

My dad has a similar kind of thing - he doesn’t tell a soul, didn’t even tell me til I was an adult. He’s not a “spirit world” type person, he was a firefighter back in the day.

he had several experiences while sleeping in a certain room at work. A noise like feet landing, then footsteps each night, followed by the blanket being physically pulled from him. Eventually he shouted at it to “f* off” and it never happened again.

he later discovered the room used to be a morgue, he believed it was someone jumping down from the slab and walking through the room.

booksniffer100 · 16/10/2023 19:53

I've never heard of time slips before but it does offer one explanation for something that happened to a very skeptical brother of mine when he was driving down a very old road and saw himself covered in blood. He even interacted with himself, the other version of himself having got into his car in the passenger seat. He then disappeared. My brother left terrified. This happened close by to a very old castle and observatory in a very remote location. I assumed he'd had an hallucination and that could still be a possibility. But so is the time slip theory. He has never had another hallucination-type experience before or since. This happened years ago.

My way of thinking is that no previous generation of humans have had all the answers so why would ours? To me it's logical that there's more that science can't explain than it can. I'm comfortable with that. I don't think we're meant to have all the answers. What I'm equally curious about is why some people get so frustrated by others believing in these possibilities 😆Who cares if others believe in something you don't? It's not hurting anyone. No need to belittle anyone or shut them down. Choosing not to believe in no way makes you superior.

newtoallthisshizzle · 16/10/2023 19:58

DrCoconut · 15/10/2023 20:23

Time slips are fascinating. I've been reading a series set on Bold Street. I have had a sort of weird experience near where I live but I can't say for sure what it was. Could have been a trick of the light or something.

Yes Bold street was the first thing that sprang to mind to me too!! Can’t explain it and am normally very skeptical but I’m willing to investigate some things further and suspend my rational mind.

Tiredmum100 · 16/10/2023 19:58

MsCactus · 15/10/2023 21:12

I've had loads of premonitions throughout my life. In fact when I'm stressed about something I kind of try to "feel" the future and usually get a flash of something.

I know people might think I'm crazy, but all my premonitions have come true so now I just keep it to myself. Never really mention it to anyone at all.

As a result I don't think time is linear - I think everything has already happened and the way we experience time passing (past, present, future) is a bit of an illusion.

There's lots of really interesting physics podcasts I've listened to on time. The reality is no one knows for sure how time works!

I know, I've had a few premonitions. Just one a few days ago. I have dreamt of big disasters days before they happened etc, as well as other mundane things.

MrsPetty · 16/10/2023 19:58

I am 100% team FIL on this. Purely because I’ve experienced so many supposedly ‘inexplicable’ occurrences. Thankfully my now exH was a physicist by choice - banker by trade and reduced it all down to the science that it is. So not so much paranormal as quantum physics. I quite like it now and I can actually feel it when it’s at play. I totally understand why your FIL doesn’t talk about it. If it hasn’t been experienced, others find some things hard to believe. My exH explained that it’s all vibrational and some of us will be more susceptible to this than others….

MsDastardley · 16/10/2023 20:00

PurpleChrayne · 15/10/2023 21:32

Every time I'm on Bold Street, I loiter about, trying to disappear into the time slip 🤫

Me and my DD too. We want to meet John Lennon and warn him not to live in New York!

My DD moved to Liverpool a few years ago and I love going over for a visit. It’s a lovely city.

Magien · 16/10/2023 20:00

Meant to quote a post... Edited. Interesting thread either way!

Grrrrdarling · 16/10/2023 20:01

elsiesbonnet · 15/10/2023 20:06

FIL was round yesterday evening for dinner with his wife. We were talking about the Uncanny podcast & recent TV episode then he told us of two experiences he'd had in the same place a number of years apart. After I went & did some research & asked a couple questions today, he's told us of another experience he had in the same place that was similar to one of the other experiences but that happened when he as a child.

I'm quite sceptical about paranormal type events I guess because I've never witnessed anything myself but am generally quite open minded. I don't believe FIL to be the type to make this sort of thing up & he was almost unwilling to tell us in case we thought he was crazy. He's never told anyone before.

AIBU to think what he experienced could've been real? In one of the instances he interacted with people in the past, his recall was quite genuine & he had some significant detail that you couldn't just make up. Has anyone else experienced a time slip or some other paranormal event they couldn't explain? I'm intrigued!

Not to worry you but here i go… i would consider a brain scan for the FIL sooner rather than later as these sort of premonitions/events can be linked to brain tumours.
I believe the current thinking is they are created by the brain creating new neural pathways to avoid the tumour😬
I’ve had brain scans since so I’m safe but better to get checked.

Does FIL have any other issues that could point to a brain issue?

I totally believe in dejavu & future echos as I have experienced both but never experienced past echos.

Next time this happens he needs to try & take a picture, assuming he has a smart phone, or video to record the event. It might work it might not but he can only try.

Tapasita · 16/10/2023 20:04

Weird things happen that push our boundaries of scientific understanding & I think it’s pure arrogance to assume we have the answers to everything. We just don’t. No way. The more scientific amongst us like to pin everything down to a “reasonable explanation,” but this only works within the confines of our limited knowledge. We’ve got a lot to learn.

Professor Brian Cox explores the idea of a “multi-verse” in one of his programmes and talked about endless versions of the universe co-existing simultaneously. Meaning of course, endless variations of the “self,” which may or may not at lobby’s, cross over, transpose and overlap so you catch a glimpse of a different “you,” in an alternate reality. This is a concept that some people take quite seriously alongside the more familiar concept of time being non-linear.

I think it may be possible for both these phenomena to co-exist alongside one another, resulting in the visions of the other you, or slips of time, and even “apparitions” which are lazily known as ghosts but are in fact time slips involving a different multi-verse coinciding.

JDEE72 · 16/10/2023 20:15

Made me smile! 😄💐@MasterBeth

Tapasita · 16/10/2023 20:27

@MistressoftheDarkSide

Your story of your DP seeing himself in alternate time frames is fascinating. What’s more interesting is how many people have had a similar experience AND the two different versions of the “self” have simultaneously clicked one another but without recognition.

I believe I saw myself. Or to be precise, a future version of myself. I was a child of about 10, and I was on the ferry with my parents going across the channel to France. I’d gone outside with my mum and it was really windy out there. I saw a woman, with dark hair carrying a red-haired toddler and holding the hand of a slender, dark haired boy of about 9. They were looking at the sea and she was waving at the receding shoreline of England. She was saying “bye bye,” and the toddler was waving also. She turned round and she looked at me briefly and smiled. There was something lovely about the three of them. Nothing remarkable, just a nice feeling.

Last summer I was on the ferry going over to France and had gone outside with my red-haired toddler & my dark-haired, 9 year old son. I waved at England and turned round. I remember seeing a little girl with blonde, almost white hair holding the hand of a dark-haired woman. The girl looked so oddly familiar but the woman didn’t. She was looking directly at me and the woman was talking to someone else. I think I must have smiled because my youngest was still yelling “bye bye” at everyone and everything.

I’ve not talked about that to anyone. They’d think I was crazy and it might just all be in my head. But I think I saw, and recognised myself in two different spaces of time - possibly two different multi-verses as the woman was not my mum

wintertimeisbest · 16/10/2023 20:30

I have loads of stories from seeing a real fairy to ghosts and (OBE) out of body
experience.
Only my sister nos and my my closest friend.
I never say anything cause people will think im mad

DavidSnow007 · 16/10/2023 20:34

wintertimeisbest · 16/10/2023 20:30

I have loads of stories from seeing a real fairy to ghosts and (OBE) out of body
experience.
Only my sister nos and my my closest friend.
I never say anything cause people will think im mad

Edited

Can you tell me your Fairy story and I'll tell you my demon story. Not sure why as I 52 year old bloke but I have a strange affinity with Fairies.

Roughasabadgersbum · 16/10/2023 20:38

When my mum rang me to tell me that my lovely dad had passed away , I knew what she was going to say . She hadn't rung at an unusual time and Dad wasn't ill and was in great health. It was unexpected and sudden but I just knew.

Also , I knew who my ex had been cheating on me with as soon as I had a phone call .. I'd had an anonymous caller saying he was having an affair and that's it. I knew who it was immediately.

I also knew I was going to have a miscarriage before it happened. I don't really tell people about it as I worry people think I'm odd or some kind of bad omen!

More recently I was driving home from work and passed a junction near home, literally ten seconds later I passed the same junction.. really glitch in the matrix!

Siwa · 16/10/2023 20:48

I saw the results of a boxing match a day or two before the fight. It was very unexpected. The next day I went around telling everyone and they disregarded it as it was impossible, but that guy ended up winning just as I saw it!

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 20:51

Tapasita · 16/10/2023 20:04

Weird things happen that push our boundaries of scientific understanding & I think it’s pure arrogance to assume we have the answers to everything. We just don’t. No way. The more scientific amongst us like to pin everything down to a “reasonable explanation,” but this only works within the confines of our limited knowledge. We’ve got a lot to learn.

Professor Brian Cox explores the idea of a “multi-verse” in one of his programmes and talked about endless versions of the universe co-existing simultaneously. Meaning of course, endless variations of the “self,” which may or may not at lobby’s, cross over, transpose and overlap so you catch a glimpse of a different “you,” in an alternate reality. This is a concept that some people take quite seriously alongside the more familiar concept of time being non-linear.

I think it may be possible for both these phenomena to co-exist alongside one another, resulting in the visions of the other you, or slips of time, and even “apparitions” which are lazily known as ghosts but are in fact time slips involving a different multi-verse coinciding.

Weird things happen that push our boundaries of scientific understanding & I think it’s pure arrogance to assume we have the answers to everything. We just don’t.

Can you point out anyone on this thread - or anywhere - who claims we have the answer to everything?

(I think it's much more arrogant to claim one person's perceived experience or even their dream has given us the answer to something. We all make mistakes, misjudgments or misattributions all the time.)

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 20:53

Siwa · 16/10/2023 20:48

I saw the results of a boxing match a day or two before the fight. It was very unexpected. The next day I went around telling everyone and they disregarded it as it was impossible, but that guy ended up winning just as I saw it!

Where did you see the result? Were you 100% sure you were right? Did you put a lot of money on the fight?

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 20:53

wintertimeisbest · 16/10/2023 20:30

I have loads of stories from seeing a real fairy to ghosts and (OBE) out of body
experience.
Only my sister nos and my my closest friend.
I never say anything cause people will think im mad

Edited

A friend of mine has described in detail the exact appearance of fairies and his out of body experiences, but he’s an extreme ultra-marathoner and was running 380 miles in the arctic at the time — he says the hallucinations are most memorable!

theduchessofspork · 16/10/2023 20:56

I mean, it’s very unlikely isn’t it.

Timeslips apart, if people travelled in time and interacted with people from the past I think that would have been recorded.

I’m guessing he was tired and fell in to half sleep state.

NineteenOhEight · 16/10/2023 20:58

MasterBeth · 16/10/2023 20:53

Where did you see the result? Were you 100% sure you were right? Did you put a lot of money on the fight?

And isn’t it only two people fighting? I mean, it’s less impressive to predict even a surprising result when it’s either X or Y than one of dozens.

MsCactus · 16/10/2023 21:01

GarlicGrace · 15/10/2023 23:40

This is a batshit riposte! The fantastic thing about knowledge is that, the more we know, the more idea we have about what we don't know. This guides scientists' efforts to discover new stuff, helping to make discoveries faster and thus expanding the horizons of human knowledge.

Here's my current favourite: We've been told that electrons have no position as such, only a probability of positions, and that the mere act of observing them causes them to change position. To be fair, 'real' scientists have never said this but have agreed it was a reasonable enough description. Meanwhile, they've been busy - for decades - working on attosecond photography, which uses super-fast strobes to capture shots of electrons where they actually are. Before long we'll have discernible movies of electrons zipping around, and pop science ideas about "quantum science says nothing is ever really anywhere" will get in the bin.

As Einstein predicted, time moves more slowly the further you get from a mass (like a planet) and the closer you get to the speed of light. This doesn't in any way suggest that part of Liverpool city centre flips between past & present for certain random visitors.

What millennia of scientific development have not signposted for continued investigation is the existence of ghosts, individual time-slips, precognition and all that. Indeed, further investigation led scientific establishments to abandon such lines of enquiry. There are still several unclaimed money prizes for any proof of the paranormal.

If it cheers anyone up, the possibility of 'inherited memory' is still under investigation 🙂 It's looking less & less likely - but is leading to fabulous new discoveries in the fields of epigenetics and microbiology.

Inherited memory is already a proven thing though.

Look at cats - they're born with the "memory" of how to hunt. Their mum's don't teach them. Cows/horses are born with the "memory" of how to walk.

We call it instincts but scientifically they're memories. We already know inherited memories exist.

Dedsec2023 · 16/10/2023 21:13

MsCactus · 16/10/2023 21:01

Inherited memory is already a proven thing though.

Look at cats - they're born with the "memory" of how to hunt. Their mum's don't teach them. Cows/horses are born with the "memory" of how to walk.

We call it instincts but scientifically they're memories. We already know inherited memories exist.

so the premise of assassins creed is real ?

Eschra · 16/10/2023 21:14

Well scientists are beginning to say the exact opposite. More recent work in the deeper science of astrophysics, etc. They are starting to question the symmetrical nature of time now its been proved to be affected by gravity, black holes etc and that time inconsistencies are now observed in the universe. despite the 2nd kawasaki of thermodynamics and tje expanding universe theory. scientists are beginning to observe "blips" in these theories in deep universe data.

Eschra · 16/10/2023 21:15

apologies keyboard autocorrect issue 2nd law of thermodynamics.

DavidSnow007 · 16/10/2023 21:16

Eschra · 16/10/2023 21:15

apologies keyboard autocorrect issue 2nd law of thermodynamics.

I did wonder ha ha

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