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To think any parent would do the same? Or am I bonkers

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Doritosandsourcream · 11/10/2023 08:02

On holiday in the buffet eating dinner all I could hear was my son crying walking from the bar with his juice in his hand. I thought oh maybe he fell over so DH went over to him. Turns out that this little girl that has been picking on him for the past 2 days her dad has grabbed DS and twisted arm so tight he broke his skin and dug his nails into him. (German family)

DS has been coming to me about her saying she keeps pushing him and sticking her fingers up since they arrived. DS finally got annoyed and pushed her back earlier on in the day and she told her dad. So dad got his own back on DS.

I ran over to DH as he was shouting at the dad and the dad was just smirking and something just came over me and I punched him in the face.

Never in my life have I punched anyone and I didn’t think about the consequences at the time I just kept looking at my son he was in flood of tears.

It was the weirdest feeling I have never felt adrenaline like it.

aibu? How would you have handled it? The hotel did absolutely nothing.

OP posts:
Malarandras · 11/10/2023 16:36

People have lost children to murder and managed never to punch anyone. If this is your reaction it says everything anyone else might need to know about you.

Pressthespacebar · 11/10/2023 16:37

Velen · 11/10/2023 16:34

Good! Thank god for that. People have got too comfortable behaving as though they won't get a punch in the mouth. Some people only understand when you meet them at their level.

If somebody assaults your child and you don't retaliate then you are a complete wet lettuce and weak.

If certain incidents didn't call for retaliation then self defence wouldn't be a defence. Who is more deserving of defence than a small child.

He assaulted a 6 year old. Her child. Fuck around and find out I say.

Totally agree with you! 👏

cardibach · 11/10/2023 16:37

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:35

Perhaps us thickos just feel the urge to protect and stand up for our DC against bullies. Hopefully your DC feel just as protected as ours do.

For what feels like the 6 millionth time -
She. Did. Not. Protect. Her. Child.
Her actions prior to the incident led to an escalation and then she punched someone out of revenge and because she didn’t like the look on his face.

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:38

Velen · 11/10/2023 16:34

Good! Thank god for that. People have got too comfortable behaving as though they won't get a punch in the mouth. Some people only understand when you meet them at their level.

If somebody assaults your child and you don't retaliate then you are a complete wet lettuce and weak.

If certain incidents didn't call for retaliation then self defence wouldn't be a defence. Who is more deserving of defence than a small child.

He assaulted a 6 year old. Her child. Fuck around and find out I say.

Well said. Too many people get away with terrible behaviour because too many of us are scared to stand up to them.

cardibach · 11/10/2023 16:38

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:38

Well said. Too many people get away with terrible behaviour because too many of us are scared to stand up to them.

There are ways to stand up to someone that don’t involve a punch in the gob.

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:39

cardibach · 11/10/2023 16:37

For what feels like the 6 millionth time -
She. Did. Not. Protect. Her. Child.
Her actions prior to the incident led to an escalation and then she punched someone out of revenge and because she didn’t like the look on his face.

She protected her child from feeling that a grown man could hurt them and get away with it. She probably also protected other people or children that that man may now think twice about touching.

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:41

cardibach · 11/10/2023 16:38

There are ways to stand up to someone that don’t involve a punch in the gob.

Unfortunately a certain type of person does not respond to words and needs a smack in the face to wake up a bit. Sad but true. The vast majority of people can be reasoned with. A man who has assaulted a young child can not.

Gypsum5 · 11/10/2023 16:41

🎵 For she’s a jolly good fella🎵 😆

Warum · 11/10/2023 16:43

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:41

Unfortunately a certain type of person does not respond to words and needs a smack in the face to wake up a bit. Sad but true. The vast majority of people can be reasoned with. A man who has assaulted a young child can not.

A man who has the OP assumes has assaulted a young child can not, and she has yet to confirm she actually witnessed any of what happened.

lettingtheforumdown · 11/10/2023 16:44

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:35

Perhaps us thickos just feel the urge to protect and stand up for our DC against bullies. Hopefully your DC feel just as protected as ours do.

Leaving aside the situation put forward in the OP, children don't feel protected by witnessing violence. They find violence frightening, especially if they perceive the adults who care for them as being out of control. We are supposed to represent safety. How will a small child know that Mummy isn't going to punch him in the face if he does something she doesn't like?

Presumably all these cheerleaders are so used to seeing people thump one another that they just don't care (or think in an Eastenders kind of way "yeah, she's smacking him becoz she luvs me"), which makes me wonder what shitty adult behaviour some people posting on this thread witnessed when they were growing up.

cardibach · 11/10/2023 16:45

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:39

She protected her child from feeling that a grown man could hurt them and get away with it. She probably also protected other people or children that that man may now think twice about touching.

No. She didn’t. He’d already done it (if he had - there’s no way to know that). She made things scarier by risking violence against herself. He saw her out of control. That’s not reassuring in any way. If she’d spoken to the man, the hotel, the police she’d still have protected him from feeling someone who hurt him could just ‘get away with it’.

Warum · 11/10/2023 16:46

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:39

She protected her child from feeling that a grown man could hurt them and get away with it. She probably also protected other people or children that that man may now think twice about touching.

If she really had wanted to protect her child she would have intervened earlier and taken proper care of him! She punched someone she didn't like the look of and who she assumed had injured her child.

user1483387154 · 11/10/2023 16:49

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Thank you for your question, becuase I was there at the soft play but could not literally see every area. So i could not say who started it, who elongated it, but I COULD help to find a solution and a way to make the next few days better. As adults we need to show our children the way to understand what happened and move forward.

PrepTakesAges · 11/10/2023 16:50

samupnorth · 11/10/2023 16:35

Perhaps us thickos just feel the urge to protect and stand up for our DC against bullies. Hopefully your DC feel just as protected as ours do.

They do. They are adults now and have told me they know they can always turn to me because I have their back. But I use my brain and words and don’t turn into a thug.

PrepTakesAges · 11/10/2023 16:52

Velen · 11/10/2023 16:34

Good! Thank god for that. People have got too comfortable behaving as though they won't get a punch in the mouth. Some people only understand when you meet them at their level.

If somebody assaults your child and you don't retaliate then you are a complete wet lettuce and weak.

If certain incidents didn't call for retaliation then self defence wouldn't be a defence. Who is more deserving of defence than a small child.

He assaulted a 6 year old. Her child. Fuck around and find out I say.

Can you describe the act of ‘self-defence’ here?

Gnomegnomegnome · 11/10/2023 16:52

This thread is eye opening.

TeeBee · 11/10/2023 16:54

Yep, I'd have done that too.

TerfTalking · 11/10/2023 17:07

For the love of god. And this dear reader is why we go self catering in villas away from other people.

PierceMorgansChin · 11/10/2023 17:09

Kitcaterpillar · 11/10/2023 08:48

Love when Mumsnet turns into fight club. Course you'd have all knocked him out, of course you would.

But to the boxers in the group, does it not occur to you that watching your mum lose control and punch a man in the face is likely to be every bit as traumatic as the initial German dad incident. I know in your heads you'd be wreathed in righteous flames and everyone would gaze in awe. But in reality, you'd be a sunburnt woman at a breakfast buffet in a subpar resort swinging a feeble arm at a man carrying a plate of varied breakfast meats...

Girl, you've just made my day 😂

Diamondcurtains · 11/10/2023 17:09

lettingtheforumdown · 11/10/2023 15:13

So you'd cause actual bodily harm to a stranger, but you can't bring yourself to write the word "prick" on an anonymous online forum?

Hmm

Yes I would if a grown man physically assaulted my child. I struggle to understand anyone that wouldn’t if I’m honest.

I didn’t write the word prick as I wasn’t sure if I could. What one has to do with the other though I’ve no idea.

Diamondcurtains · 11/10/2023 17:10

PierceMorgansChin · 11/10/2023 17:09

Girl, you've just made my day 😂

Who gives a shit? It would masker me feel better 🤷

Rosscameasdoody · 11/10/2023 17:23

Malarandras · 11/10/2023 16:36

People have lost children to murder and managed never to punch anyone. If this is your reaction it says everything anyone else might need to know about you.

Yes, that she was angry that her six year old son had been assaulted and hurt by a grown man. And that in the heat of the moment she did something that had she had time to think things through, she probably wouldn’t have. Mothering instinct took over. Hopefully this big bully might think twice before he acts like this again.

AsWrittenBy · 11/10/2023 17:26

Doritosandsourcream · 11/10/2023 08:31

I have told DS that he can’t punch people or put his hands on anyone and it’s unacceptable.

But it was ok for you to??

Rosscameasdoody · 11/10/2023 17:27

Warum · 11/10/2023 16:46

If she really had wanted to protect her child she would have intervened earlier and taken proper care of him! She punched someone she didn't like the look of and who she assumed had injured her child.

She punched someone she didn't like the look of and who she assumed had injured her child.

Where on earth do you get this ?

ALongHardWinter · 11/10/2023 17:29

It was the wrong thing to do,but I totally understand why you did it OP! To be honest,if I had the strength,I think I would have probably done the same under the circumstances.