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To not want my dd using these words?

91 replies

tiredmum9 · 08/10/2023 12:13

One of my dds (8 years old) has started describing people as dinlos or divs. She's picked this up from her nan, and as someone who tries hard not to pass on swearing to her kids it really irks me, i know it's not as severe as real swearing but its still name calling. Do your kids use these kind of words and do you allow it?

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Mix56 · 08/10/2023 12:15

Just had to look them up.
Not really swearing,

3dogsandarabbit · 08/10/2023 12:18

I hate those words. I would just say to her that they are not very nice words to use and not to use them at home.

fattytum · 08/10/2023 12:19

div is nasty and refers to being a resident of Divo mental hospital, as far a I know.

Never heard of Dinlo

tiredmum9 · 08/10/2023 12:19

I know it's not swearing, but I don't like it because it's insulting people and calling them "dumb" or "slow". It's not a big thing but makes me Hmm

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tiredmum9 · 08/10/2023 12:26

fattytum · 08/10/2023 12:19

div is nasty and refers to being a resident of Divo mental hospital, as far a I know.

Never heard of Dinlo

I've googled and apparently it's prison slang for the lowest inmate. But if it does originate from mental hospitals that's vile

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FirstLaburnum · 08/10/2023 12:31

My mum always made me look up the definitions. Some of the funniest sounding words have the most horrible meanings.

Whysolon · 08/10/2023 12:31

Dinlo is a Romany word. It is often used as reference to someone deemed as stupid or an idiot.
Div basically means the same thing.

Neither of them are very nice words and you are right to discourage your child from using them. They aren’t swearing though although agree both are unpleasant.

Canisaysomething · 08/10/2023 12:35

No I wouldn’t be happy because it isn’t respectful or kind, it’s just petty name calling.

Give0fecks · 08/10/2023 12:38

Pretty sure ‘div’ would raise a few eyebrows - for me it’s in the same bracket as ‘sp*z’. (Both unacceptable)

NuffSaidSam · 08/10/2023 12:40

No, I wouldn't like it. They're not nice words. I'd prefer swearing tbh!

Alwayswildatheart · 08/10/2023 12:47

Yes, 'thick bastard' is much better and often used on MN.

Seriously though, why is an 8 year old passing judgement in such a way on her peers?

I'd go NC with any grandparent teaching youngsters words like this and probably become a SAHM to ensure these dreadful outside influences are avoided.

Fireisland · 08/10/2023 12:49

There's a lot of disagreement about the origin of div

Some say it's from the Deva hospital in Chester
Or from prison inmates who put dividers in cardboard boxes
Or as a shortening of individual

Hard to say how offensive it is without knowing its real origin, but as far as insults go it's quite mild

tttigress · 08/10/2023 12:50

I had never heard of the word dinlo. Keep up the Romany tradition!

Just be happy every other word isn't f*

TeenLifeMum · 08/10/2023 12:51

We have words I don’t like so we don’t use and dc follow that. We don’t say “hate” about a person (allowed if talking about marmite etc) and we don’t say “idiot”. Neither are swear words but that doesn’t mean I can’t have rules.

KnickerlessParsons · 08/10/2023 12:53

Div (or divvy) is hardly a major insult. There are far worse words she could be using and div wouldn't bother me - I've probably used it myself.
No idea about dinlo - never heard that before.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 08/10/2023 12:53

The whole point is not to call anyone names. Have a word with your DM

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 08/10/2023 12:55

Jeez I thought div was just a shortening of divot, as in a clump of earth. Polite way of saying sod 🤷🏼‍♀️

What do you call people who are behaving in a manner which fall below your standards or expectations or who do something that could considered unwise, unsafe, or inappropriate?

thecatinthetwat · 08/10/2023 12:55

Oh god no, don’t let your mum/mil use those words around your child.

margotrose · 08/10/2023 12:55

I mean, they're not nice but they're not the worst words in the world either.

I remember "div" and "divvy" being very common "insults" when I was in primary school 25 years ago. They weren't necessarily meant nastily then, though.

Maray1967 · 08/10/2023 12:57

It can be awkward when GPs use words that you don’t - and that you don’t want your DC using. In my case it was ‘shut up’. DS talked straight back and said we don’t use those words …

I’s not heard of one of those terms, but ‘divvy’ is part of Scouse and so par for the course here.

Have a discussion and explain the issue but DC using words they’ve picked up elsewhere is very common. You have to hope they don’t say worse.

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 08/10/2023 12:58

Is Muppet ok?

Myfabby · 08/10/2023 12:58

KnickerlessParsons · 08/10/2023 12:53

Div (or divvy) is hardly a major insult. There are far worse words she could be using and div wouldn't bother me - I've probably used it myself.
No idea about dinlo - never heard that before.

Wow. You are super classy obviously.
@tiredmum9 Please discourage your 8 year old from calling anyone names. It's just wrong and can be very hurtful.

Doteycat · 08/10/2023 12:59

Oh ffs what a load of rubbish.
Where do ye think the word Bedlam came from.
Have some cop on.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 08/10/2023 13:05

My mum always made me look up the definitions. Some of the funniest sounding words have the most horrible meanings.

Yes, words like 'moron' or 'cretin' sound amusing, but they do have actual meanings meaning that you're effectively making fun of severe learning difficulties. Even the glorious 'nincompoop' is similar, being an adaptation of 'non compos mentis'.

I don't see an issue with 'muppet', though - or 'numpty' or 'buffoon'!

I remember when I was a child some people used a contraction of the word thalidomide as a catch-all insult - oddly used to suggest that somebody was stupid, even though the devastating effects of thalidomide were physical, not mental/learning-based (which sort of doubles it back on those using the word). Utterly nasty, regardless.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 08/10/2023 13:05

Myfabby · 08/10/2023 12:58

Wow. You are super classy obviously.
@tiredmum9 Please discourage your 8 year old from calling anyone names. It's just wrong and can be very hurtful.

So what do YOU say to someone who has behaved in a way that is detrimental to you?

"Do excuse me, but I consider your actions to be below acceptable standards and I would politely request that you desist from such behaviour in the future"

Bollocks do you 😂