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To not want my dd using these words?

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tiredmum9 · 08/10/2023 12:13

One of my dds (8 years old) has started describing people as dinlos or divs. She's picked this up from her nan, and as someone who tries hard not to pass on swearing to her kids it really irks me, i know it's not as severe as real swearing but its still name calling. Do your kids use these kind of words and do you allow it?

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Womanofcustard · 08/10/2023 14:01

Dinlo is a Romany word, it was used a lot in Dorset in the 1960s (lots of travellers there). But it is an insult!

TeenLifeMum · 08/10/2023 14:05

@Memberofstaff 2 out of the 3 followed that instruction. One has rebelled so I have it in the cupboard but refuse to touch it (she’s 15 and can make a sandwich) 😂

GreyDress · 08/10/2023 14:06

I'd go NC with any grandparent teaching youngsters words like this

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Valerianandfoxglovesoup · 08/10/2023 14:09

Alwayswildatheart · 08/10/2023 12:47

Yes, 'thick bastard' is much better and often used on MN.

Seriously though, why is an 8 year old passing judgement in such a way on her peers?

I'd go NC with any grandparent teaching youngsters words like this and probably become a SAHM to ensure these dreadful outside influences are avoided.

I'm not trying to be rude but genuinely am curious if this is a jokey or serious response?

zurala · 08/10/2023 14:09

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 08/10/2023 13:46

I say, I find your behaviour offensive. I think you're being obtuse/patronising/silly etc

So your response to (eg) someone knocking your phone out of your hand into (eg) your drink would be "That was silly."

Mhmm. And I can guarantee that those people will look at you and think "fucking div" 😁

Why would you need to call them anything? Sounds like you live in not the nicest area if people go around name calling all the time.

MyNumber1Rule · 08/10/2023 14:11

tiredmum9 · 08/10/2023 13:31

No, from bradford

I would have guessed you were from Portsmouth also, I lived there for a while and thought than dinlo was a local word, I have seen various YouTube/tik tok videos where people have taken the piss out of Portsmouth specific dialect and that is always one of the words.

Depends who she's saying it too, peers fine, kids will always say idiot to each other at times, adults definitely not.

Fionaville · 08/10/2023 14:12

My DD10 is very anti swearing. She really doesn't like to hear it and we don't swear around her (or much at all really)
We do however say Divvy and Div. In my area its said with a laugh, not insulting at all. My mum and even my nan, who never swore, would even say it. It's the equivalent of 'silly billy' in my family/area.

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 08/10/2023 14:12

tiredmum9 · 08/10/2023 13:41

What am I meant to do? March to her friends house and snatch the remote away?

Yeah because that's exactly what other parents do 🙄

You seriously can't think of one tiny way to stop your DD watching TV that you find inappropriate?

Jeez, wait till they're on the internet.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 08/10/2023 14:13

Myfabby · 08/10/2023 13:55

I don't know where/who you hang out with, but I guarantee you, if someone accidentally knocked my phone into my tea and apologized, and there was no serious damage, that would be the end. And no one would think div.And if they were they crass to think it, they certainly wouldn't blurt it out.

Good manners cost nothing.

Edited

Tbh I was thinking more if you were in a cafe and it was a stranger 🤷🏼‍♀️

I'm not actually in the habit of insulting people (unless they're really pissing me off), but I do think the "holier than thou" attitude of never raising your voice, always being polite, never having a knee jerk reaction to something a little tiresome.

I do have a friend who called her DS a son-of-a-bitch. It took him a moment to work it out 😂 (He's an adult, chill)

mummabubs · 08/10/2023 14:13

I'm from Portsmouth and believe dinlo is a local phrase. It's not used aggressively here, more playful like silly rather than stupid if that makes sense.

Myfabby · 08/10/2023 14:15

Incognito2023 · 08/10/2023 13:53

Be careful @Startre28 - I found out this morning on another thread that poo is now considered racist…! (as opposed to ‘just’ an insult)

Don't be obtuse. That thread explored why Saying you look like poo to a brown child is racist and a few shared their experiences. The school excluded the child for 2 days, so clearly it was deemed offensive.

Why should name calling be encouraged? I read all sorts on that thread, 6 year olds calling themselves willy, wanker etc and no one is horrified?

Gifgirl · 08/10/2023 14:17

Fionaville · 08/10/2023 14:12

My DD10 is very anti swearing. She really doesn't like to hear it and we don't swear around her (or much at all really)
We do however say Divvy and Div. In my area its said with a laugh, not insulting at all. My mum and even my nan, who never swore, would even say it. It's the equivalent of 'silly billy' in my family/area.

Do you live in Portsmouth?

Tumbler2121 · 08/10/2023 14:28

Soon as I saw dinlo I thought Pompey! In fact, I was at Southsea Castle today and among their really rather good souvenirs was a card saying Happy Birthday to my favourite Dinlo!

Cherrysoup · 08/10/2023 14:29

Div is not acceptable imo. I’d tell off a student using it, as much as calling others thick, stupid etc.

Whysolon · 08/10/2023 14:34

Womanofcustard · 08/10/2023 14:01

Dinlo is a Romany word, it was used a lot in Dorset in the 1960s (lots of travellers there). But it is an insult!

It’s a Romany gypsy word. Used all over , not just in Dorset!

Droppit · 08/10/2023 14:35

I always thought div came from divergent. I don't have any more of a problem with it than sod which also doesn't have great roots but the word itself exists now in its own right and sod off or div aren't hugely offensive IMO.

Never heard of dinlo.

Fionaville · 08/10/2023 14:49

Gifgirl · 08/10/2023 14:17

Do you live in Portsmouth?

No, Merseyside

jays · 08/10/2023 14:50

tiredmum9 · 08/10/2023 12:19

I know it's not swearing, but I don't like it because it's insulting people and calling them "dumb" or "slow". It's not a big thing but makes me Hmm

I totally agree. If it was me I’d explain why I didn’t like those words and I wouldn’t allow them to be used and by the time I’d explained why, I’d like to think my child wouldn’t want to use them anyway.

DelurkingAJ · 08/10/2023 14:54

I wouldn’t like it, no.

DS1 and DS2 (10 and 7) will use ‘silly billy’ or ‘wally’ at home. Yes, I’m sure they hear other words at school but that’s about the level of insult I’d accept from a primary school child so that’s where they stop.

MoiraRosesBaybay · 08/10/2023 14:56

I know dinlo as a Romany word mainly.

MankyMinge · 08/10/2023 19:12

Droppit · 08/10/2023 14:35

I always thought div came from divergent. I don't have any more of a problem with it than sod which also doesn't have great roots but the word itself exists now in its own right and sod off or div aren't hugely offensive IMO.

Never heard of dinlo.

Divergent is a descriptive word, not offensive in any way.

MyNumber1Rule · 08/10/2023 19:18

Tumbler2121 · 08/10/2023 14:28

Soon as I saw dinlo I thought Pompey! In fact, I was at Southsea Castle today and among their really rather good souvenirs was a card saying Happy Birthday to my favourite Dinlo!

yeah there are various stores that sell tshirts and prints with dinlo and squinny on lol.

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 08/10/2023 19:36

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 08/10/2023 13:05

My mum always made me look up the definitions. Some of the funniest sounding words have the most horrible meanings.

Yes, words like 'moron' or 'cretin' sound amusing, but they do have actual meanings meaning that you're effectively making fun of severe learning difficulties. Even the glorious 'nincompoop' is similar, being an adaptation of 'non compos mentis'.

I don't see an issue with 'muppet', though - or 'numpty' or 'buffoon'!

I remember when I was a child some people used a contraction of the word thalidomide as a catch-all insult - oddly used to suggest that somebody was stupid, even though the devastating effects of thalidomide were physical, not mental/learning-based (which sort of doubles it back on those using the word). Utterly nasty, regardless.

I know the exact word you mean, and much to my utter shame I did use it when I was younger. I had absolutely no idea it stemmed from thalidomide, to me it was just a word that meant 'idiot' with no other connotations at all. Luckily for me, a friend pulled me up on it about ten years ago, and I was horrified to think of all the times I must have said it & caused offence. I've never used it since, and remain so grateful to my friend for explaining why it was offensive. Same with a documentary Jo Brand did about 20yrs ago explaining the origins of cretin & other slurs people use without knowing the origin.

I can forgive people using words in innocence, but once they're told why it's not unacceptable, there's no excuse.

Timmytap18 · 08/10/2023 19:37

Give0fecks · 08/10/2023 12:38

Pretty sure ‘div’ would raise a few eyebrows - for me it’s in the same bracket as ‘sp*z’. (Both unacceptable)

Where I'm from divvy is pretty commonly used but I wouldn't want my kid name calling anyway.

Bonbon21 · 08/10/2023 19:42

Forgive me if I have misunderstood... YOU are the parent... she is the child.. you TELL her not to use words you do not want her to use... regardless of who else is using them!!
Really really does not matter what they mean... she does not use them because you say so!

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