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To have spent 12 years of child benefit?

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FullMoomin · 08/10/2023 05:10

Having a panic attack.
I've just calculated that over the past 12 years of spending child benefit every month I've spent over £20,000!!!!!
I should have saved this money for DC!
If I had saved it, I could give it to them.
Turns out all my friends have been quietly saving theirs and now have a nice big monet pot to give their DC when they turn 18!
Now I feel horrifically guilty that my DC wo t get that, when all their friends will.
Oh help, really panicking.
I will never, ever be in the financial situation to pay £16,000 back to them.
The money goes in to my account each month and first it got spent on nappies, food, supplementing my reduced income, then when they went to school it got used for school uniform, new shoes, clubs, food, etc.
Suddenly 12 years has crept up on me and I haven't saved a penny of it.
Only 4 years of CHB to go now and then it stops!! I feel like I've seriously failed my DC.

OP posts:
Couldyounot · 08/10/2023 09:17

You need less judgemental friends, OP.

Sehenswürdigkeiten · 08/10/2023 09:18

Janieforever · 08/10/2023 09:16

quite clearly due to the cut off point child benefit is not just for very low income families in need. If it was the cut of would be the same as free school meals ie 16k a year or whatever it is.

it is not a benefit for those only in desperate need who cannot afford to clothe or feed their kids otherwise. That’s not its purpose. Obviously.

Perhaps it should be. Why are we awarding benefits to people who don't need them?

Badbadbunny · 08/10/2023 09:19

shiso · 08/10/2023 09:13

How lucky you are that you don't think £60k is that much. It's less than my household income and we both work full time in the NHS. Catch your privilege.

Are there any doctor/nurse bandings in the NHS under £30k per year for full time.

I thought that kind of wage was for new recruits or support staff?

Hufflepods · 08/10/2023 09:19

@Badbadbunny No government has ever "encouraged" parents to save the child benefit.

The government encourage saving while on universal credit hence there is a very generous saving scheme open only to those receiving universal credit, the threshold being a lot lower than that for child benefit.

Hurryupbuttercup · 08/10/2023 09:19

As someone who wouldn't be eligible for child benefit (we'd just have to pay it all back in tax), it's slightly disconcerting to know that people are using it to fund trust funds, instead of buying essentials for children. It suggests they don't need benefits anymore than higher earners.

If on a higher salary then they obviously don't need it. But if someone doesn't earn a high salary but is still able to save , then there's nothing wrong with saving it. There are people who get disability payments, like nearly £500 a week , and some less than that , who save some/most of their disability money. Do you recommend they don't get those payments either?

TrashedSofa · 08/10/2023 09:19

BarbaraofSeville · 08/10/2023 09:14

Define cutting corners. The family could have an income up to £100k and be able to easily afford their day to day expenses and a good amount of discretionary spending.

The 'corner cutting' could be something like:

The adults in the family colouring their hair at home instead of in a salon
The family cars being 5 YO Fords instead of 2 YO Audis
The summer holiday being 4 star instead of 5 star AI.

Etc etc. Excluding the families on very low incomes who need the CB to cover the basics, and those wealthy enough to not receive it at all, there will be millions of families in the middle whose ability to save their CB is mainly dependent on their general lifestyle spending and prioritisation of money.

Edited

Yeah, this is it exactly.

Even if we were to look only at basic living costs, two families might have exactly the same income and size but one of them choose a house with a spare room and the other one not, for example. This is why all the stuff about who needs what is primarily hot air.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 08/10/2023 09:19

Your friends are idiots. And I wonder if some of them come from a household where joint income is way over £50k, rather than a single higher earner who earns over 50k and a SAHP or low earner, whose household would not be entitled to ANY child benefit, or greatly reduced by the tax charge

it’s nuts to me that 2 people on 49k, so household income of 98k, are entitled to full child benefit while another couple with 50k household income are not.

No wonder in some families they can afford to save the child benefit.

NetZeroZealot · 08/10/2023 09:19

There is nothing wrong with encouraging people to save for their children's future. The government also tried this before with the child trust fund.

Tinkerbyebye · 08/10/2023 09:19

Child benefit is to help you with the cost of having a child. You used it correctly and needed it that. If your friends could save it because they actually didn’t need it then bully for them. Everyone’s circumstances are different

maybe based on what your friends have managed to do it’s time CB was means tested. Then it goes to those who need it

TrashedSofa · 08/10/2023 09:20

Tinkerbyebye · 08/10/2023 09:19

Child benefit is to help you with the cost of having a child. You used it correctly and needed it that. If your friends could save it because they actually didn’t need it then bully for them. Everyone’s circumstances are different

maybe based on what your friends have managed to do it’s time CB was means tested. Then it goes to those who need it

It's been means tested since 2013, albeit stupidly.

BIossomtoes · 08/10/2023 09:20

Tinkerbyebye · 08/10/2023 09:19

Child benefit is to help you with the cost of having a child. You used it correctly and needed it that. If your friends could save it because they actually didn’t need it then bully for them. Everyone’s circumstances are different

maybe based on what your friends have managed to do it’s time CB was means tested. Then it goes to those who need it

It is means tested.

Hurryupbuttercup · 08/10/2023 09:21

No government has ever "encouraged" parents to save the child benefit.

They do, or they certainly did when I applied for it. I got a leaflet with my CB letter recommending saving it for the childs future. This was in 2017.

Sehenswürdigkeiten · 08/10/2023 09:21

Hufflepods · 08/10/2023 09:19

@Badbadbunny No government has ever "encouraged" parents to save the child benefit.

The government encourage saving while on universal credit hence there is a very generous saving scheme open only to those receiving universal credit, the threshold being a lot lower than that for child benefit.

This has already been answered.

Hufflepods · 08/10/2023 09:23

This has already been answered.

No idea what you’re talking about, I’m replying to a post directly to me. If you want
to contribute feel free but nothing about my comment is incorrect.

Sehenswürdigkeiten · 08/10/2023 09:23

Hurryupbuttercup · 08/10/2023 09:21

No government has ever "encouraged" parents to save the child benefit.

They do, or they certainly did when I applied for it. I got a leaflet with my CB letter recommending saving it for the childs future. This was in 2017.

Saving something isn't the same as routinely saving it all.

Scotlandwidowed · 08/10/2023 09:23

If you were in a position to save it ? Then you shouldn’t have been claiming .
it !

catbla2957 · 08/10/2023 09:25

I knew several eighteen year olds who got lump sums. They all blew it, cars, nights out holidays. It really didn't help them in the long run. I have saved for my children but they won't be getting it at 18, or 21 or 25! They will get it when they need it and will use it for a something worthwhile.

lunepremiere79 · 08/10/2023 09:25

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 08/10/2023 08:36

@Howmanyroses indeed.

But why would peoples realise this? Where is this taught?

I thought this was just common knowledge? If not, then all this should surely be required curriculum in schools? I am not originally from the UK, so not familiar with the schooling system here

Hufflepods · 08/10/2023 09:25

@Sehenswürdigkeiten Saving something isn't the same as routinely saving it all.

If it is okay to save some then it’s okay to save it all. What’s your cut off in terms of what is acceptable then?

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 08/10/2023 09:26

@lunepremiere79 definitely not common knowledge at all.

Janieforever · 08/10/2023 09:26

Sehenswürdigkeiten · 08/10/2023 09:18

Perhaps it should be. Why are we awarding benefits to people who don't need them?

That’s the case for other things, ie state pension. Child benefit is for everyone under a certain earnings threshold and is to benefit the child, be it then or in the future. There is no guidance and if a parent can save for a child, it’s encouraged.

the only people doing something wrong with it are those whose kids go without and they spend it on themselves.

child benefit is not a benefit only for those in poverty who can’t afford to feed or clothe their kids, it’s a benefit for most families and can be spent to benefit the kids either now or in the future as the parent decides.

if you don’t like it, as you clearly don’t, then email your mp or start a petition saying you think it should be under the free school meal criteria.

Guessguess · 08/10/2023 09:26

My best friend got a lump sum at 18, think his was around 12k. He had the lot of it spent within 2 years and he's regretted it ever since. Mostly on drugs and alcohol, holidays, festivals, used to buy everyone's drinks every night out. His family were absolutely devastated.

I also think it's a benefit and if you don't need it and can afford to be saving it up then you shouldn't have it at all.

shiso · 08/10/2023 09:27

@Badbadbunny who said anything Aboyne being a doctor/nurse? There are thousands of clinical and non clinical jobs within the NHS that isn't 'doctor' or 'nurse'.

Sehenswürdigkeiten · 08/10/2023 09:28

Hufflepods · 08/10/2023 09:25

@Sehenswürdigkeiten Saving something isn't the same as routinely saving it all.

If it is okay to save some then it’s okay to save it all. What’s your cut off in terms of what is acceptable then?

This has been answered several times up thread.

TrashedSofa · 08/10/2023 09:28

I'm interested in what people define as affording to save. Obviously people who have saved it can at least arguably afford it, notwithstanding the concerns some posters have raised about kids going without. What about those who could afford to save it but spend it on the DC anyway?

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