Free bacon butties for the dads - wtf!!

[PlumPudd]

Someone posted this to a community WhatsApp group near me. What the hell?!? I thought it was a joke but apparently it’s a national initiative and happens in playgroups and churches all over the country!!

Free bacon butties for dads to incentivise aka bribe them into spending some of the weekend playing with their own kids!

Firstly, why should they be rewarded / bribed with bacon butties. It’s basic 101 parenting - looking after your own child who you helped to create at the weekend - nobody is giving mums anything to get them to spend the rest of the weekend with the kids.

Secondly, bacon butties for blokes?!?!? What sexist nonsense is this, is bacon too manly for women to handle? Is it the Yorkie bar of sandwich fillings. I bet if they were going to bribe / incentivise mums they wouldn’t give them bacon, they’d give them fondant fancies or face masks or something.

Lighthearted rant over… I know it’s good to encourage equal parenting etc but talk about setting a low bar

But people moan that men (including me) are on MN and invade ‘female only spaces’

can’t have it both ways 😚

I don't see anything wrong with it. Everything seems to be tailored to mums and it's not fair on the dad's. I take my daughter to 2 playgroups called mums and tots, a swimming group and a rhythm and rhyme group which are just for the mums. I think men feel pushed out with toddler and kids groups. I know my partner would feel weird being the only man there.

I just hope they've catered for vegetarians and people who don't eat pork.

that's what the ide tofu is for.

I think you just won the thread.

Haven't RTFT but this winds me up too. Spent the majority of my maternity leave with 3yo in lockdown. Pubs were open, playgroups were banned. Our local children's centre now opens on Saturday morning for dad's playgroup "bring the children, let mum have a rest". Most mums I know work full time some mums I know barely got chance to attend a playgroup during 2020 and would love a weekend activity like this. It's 2023, most families have 2 working parents, so ny all means have a dads playgroup, great idea, but have a mums weekend playgroup too, it's the misogyny of assuming women are at home all week so don't need one, and they are default parent weekend so dads popping out with the kids is a favour to mum

The reasons have been explained numerous times in this thread try reading it.

I’m sure this somehow breaks the equality law 😂😂 Like another poster said, it’s 2023 - rock up, identify as a dad and enjoy your bacon sarnie!

A pub near me which is across the road from a supermarket used to have a board outside saying: "pop in for a pint whilst the wife shops" 🙄

It's a Christian church recruitment drive by a multi-million pound catholic charity. Not just a play group for dads.

That's the only issue I have with it.

So all those groups that are women only should also be banned?

@gotomomo We have "boys night out" I gatecrash to make a point

What point are you proving other than you’re a dick?

I’m sure you would find it just as funny when it’s a man gatecrashing a women’s support group.

i think you are being ridiculous. lots of dads only have kids at weekends because of coparenting. If it's getting dads involved with their kids and giving mom a break even isn't that a good thing? as for the bacon sandwich- it's breakfast i assume don't think any gender specific issues here

Dad's playgroups have been around for years. Surestart centres had them when my teenager was a toddler.

So all those groups that are women only should also be banned? No, but playgroups that aren’t just for dad’s at the same place should also offer bacon sandwiches. It’s not the fact that it’s a dad’s group, but that the same thing isn’t offered at groups predominantly attended by mums.

But that doesn't break the law ...

If mum's want bacon sandwiches then ASK

It's good for dads to get together and talk as a group. It helps us know our place in the world.

Having said that, I am vegan so this wouldn't appeal on the bacon sarnies front.

The irony of posting this on 'mumsnet' 😂

Yet we women benefitted from positive discrimination for decades.
Not so good when the boot’s on the other foot is it? Hypocrite

Nothing wrong in offering single sex meetings/groups. I like that I can go to woman only events.

In principle yes. Then you remember that men have used organisations like the Masons to promote exclusively male self-interest and it becomes a bit a more problematic. The old boys' network is still very real. Suppose the question is, when does a 'group' become a network that excludes others in ways that might be disadvantageous to them?

This is a dad's playgroup, offering (controversial) bacon sandwiches - in between setting up, cooking, clearing up and stopping kids squabbling over scooters, what do you imagine they get up to?

Haha @ForegoneConfusion I know it's just a dads' church group in this thread, but I was responding to the people who support the right of men/women to form their own exclusively male/female organisations etc. Seems to me that there's no female equivalent to things like the masons, the loyal orders in N Ireland, etc. I'd hardly put the Women's Institute or the Mothers Union on a par with them. Men seem to create and consolidate quite powerful networks in a way women don't.

@AInightingale Seems to me that there's no female equivalent to things like the masons, the loyal orders in N Ireland, etc. I'd hardly put the Women's Institute or the Mothers Union on a par with them.

You think the main problem with the loyal order is that it is only open to men??

But no female equivalents exist, is my point. Why don't women go in for these kind of things? They're about power but it's organised male power, as in their underbelly, the criminal paramilitary gangs. Men form these networks. Just seems to be something in the male psyche.