To want to take my 12kg dog in the plane cabin

[BettyBoomer]

I’m going to Europe this summer and I’d like to take my dog but I dont want to put the dog in the hold. There are a number of airlines that allow dogs in the cabin if they are under 10kg (KLM, AirFrance, ITA air).

does anyone know of an airline from UK to Europe that would take a 12kg dog?

thanks!

Completely agree.

I don't understand the need to pretend that dogs are human and treat them as such so they can go everywhere

No but this user is correct. If there is a person with an allergy on board the cabin crew will do their upmost to seat the 2 as far away as possible, this is why there is normally a limit of 2 dogs per flight, but as airlines never ever claim to be allergen free (as dander etc can be on others clothing before getting on a plane) then the dog and owner do not have to get off the plane

Neither is the person with the allergy.

Also what if two or more people declare they have allergies to the dog?

This is actually more likely to happen as while some people have an immediate life threatening allergy to things not everyone does.

Do you mean assistance dog? If so that includes a wide range of disabilities, and you would be correct.

The CAA allows assistance dogs on flights and it is illegal for them to be refused.

I would be very happy to be sat next to a dog on a flight. No unpleasant conversations!

All allergies are unpredictable. My child lives with a lot of them, unfortunately and it restricts her life in many ways and causes us a great deal of anxiety and stress. But truly, all allergies are unpredictable and any allergy can become severe with no warning. You have to live your life as best you can.

I would never expect my child to take precedence over a disabled person's guide dog. The OP seems to be talking about taking a regular dog away just because she wants to. I think if dogs were routinely allowed on planes this would be bad not just for allergic and phobic passengers but potentially pretty risky in the event of reactive or badly trained dogs in a plane cabin and how dangerous that could be. A trained assistance dog for a disabled person is very different.

You're right, they're not doing anything wrong either but the fact remains that an airline is not going to forcibly remove a passenger who isn't doing anything wrong.

If the presence of a dog means other passengers feel they can't take that flight then that is for them to deal with.

One passenger cannot insist another is removed for their comfort.

I do this because its cheaper although not 12kg but actually it is not recommended, they are much safer in the special area of the hold which is climate controlled for live cargo and much less stressful. I don't know wher else people do this outside of the US and Middle East although S Korea seems to be an MN Hell in that pets go absolutely everywhere! It isn't a funnexoerience travelling with pets by air, they don't enjoy it and sometimes it takes a whole for them to get their wag back, especially if it's a noisy flight

You can’t do it from the U.K. . If driving is a option then eurotunnel is the easiest way to cross with a dog , we have done it a few times

Re allergy to dogs, I think that's a UK thing, I have never met anyone allergic to dogs in the rest of the world. I assumed it just meant don't like them.

I work for an airline and this is correct.

The disabled person will take priority if they are covered by the 2010 Equality Act. Someone whose dog allergy was so significant for them to be covered by the Act would mean we probably couldn't take them safely anyway as there will already have been dogs on board, pet hair and dander on passengers and crew and luggage.

So it's a situation where if your allergy is that bad you aren't safe to travel anyway. If it isn't that bad, the other disabled person takes precedence over you.

I love it when we have a dog on board!!

Do you realise people have assistance dogs for other things ? My young nephew has a supprt dog that detects epilepsy and asks help , my friend has a dog as she is dead and the dog is trained to aid her .there are dogs to help with autism and keep the owners from danger too .
Your ableism is disgusting !

I cannot think of anything worse than being stuck next to a dog for a whole flight.

Also, poor dog.

So you've no time for deaf people or diabetics either?

Nice.

Great look.

It is absolutely a real thing and on the rise. If you'd seen my kid have a reaction after touching a dog you would have no doubt! Facial swelling, wheezing, streaming eyes and hives - it's really upsetting and very real.

Deaf I meant not dead 😜

Wind them up and watch them go...

Really interesting points about allergies and being able to guarantee any given environment is free from pet hair. I don’t and wouldn’t take my dog on a flight but I suspect I have been in many a public space with a great deal of cat and dog hair on my clothing. It’s not a look I deliberately cultivate and I do try to keep my home clean but there is usually a fair bit of animal hair attached to my clothing at any given time.

Deaf I meant not dead 😜

I did wonder!

I worked for sight loss charities and flew with plenty of guide dogs. Much nicer experience than flying with babies and kids.

Calm down, it's so normal in other places, there no drama. It's not XL Bullies on leads, its 2 or 3 kg dogs in soft sided travel cases stored on the floor in the footwell unless its a military dog in which case it gets a seat. Nobody even knows they are there most of the time, there's absolutely no drama at all and mainly in business anyway, you don't really want to squish your dog up on the floor then have nowhere to put your feet.

Arf at 'my friend has a dog as she is dead'

That's one hell of an assistance dog

I don't want to wind anyone up, I genuinely didn't think it was a thing. I know people can be allergic to cats but people take them on flights too. I'm allergic to peanuts, people take those on flights.