anyone else a bit suspicious about this nursery whistleblower doc?

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she doesn't half seem to be good at getting jobs
unless the buttons and mark warner jobs were 2 out of many she applied for

My DHs ex is/was Head of Department for childcare for Mark Warner in an Egyptian resort, shame I can't ask her about it!

i'm happy with DS' nursery, but, as i said, i've no doubt that awful places exist
i don't think anything that was presented is untrue, but the doc seemed biased and manipulated

can't believe that mark warner and childcare could be used in the same sentence.

this is the company that bans children from the restaurants in their resorts after 7 pm ... .

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Talky, I'm not saying YOU have suggested it is libellous, I am saying that BBC editorial guidelines are rigorous and as there are many potential legal issues with broadcasting such a programme, they will have made sure their investigation is watertight.

pph, totally agree

we need to know how many she applied for to get a better picture

yes it is chequers. don't you think they might be extra super careful, therefore?

that was not in-house, it was RDF, as I recall.

but, yes, obv the BBC take responsibility

again, what PPH says too

well if you read the bbc's article about it here she says she applied for jobs and her references were NEVER checked and the only people who CRBd her were Ofsted

i think, though, it did well to highlight the stupidly low wages in this profession....it's just criminal

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what a disgrace. not surprised though.

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I have said on here before that a Mark Warner holiday is my idea of hell. I wonder how many people will cancel their holidays after tonights programme. I would love to see Mark Warner go down the pan they have been fleecing people for too long. I am sure that most people convince themselves that they had a good holiday because if you had paid £8k for a holiday you would be embrassed to admit that the actual reality is crap!

i said from the off...."unless she applied for loads and these few were the only ones she got"

Over 15 years ago aged 21 I applied for a job at an agency providing emergency cover for nurseries and nannies. I had no experience at all which I was completely honest about. I started work the next day despite the fact my police check would take another 6 weeks. I was dropped into all sorts of situations in nurseries which thinking back now were astonishing including being left in a room with no other staff, 12 kids and parents coming in to take their kids home - where of course I had no idea if they were actually the parents at all. I would turn up on the doorstep of frazzled mums late for work having been let down by the nanny, who would thrust their house keys into my hand, say things like ' his name is Sebastian, he doesn?t eat egg' and leave for 10 hours. Eventually I got longer term cover in a nice nursery and then a 10 month stint as a nanny. At no point did training or qualifications come up. I am sure that things are far far better now and that the majority of nurseries are lovely places but it has given me a bit of a shock watching the programme because I genuinely thought my experience was the sort of thing that would never happen now. I felt vaguely nauseous watching the bit where she was taking kids on a speedboat, no idea how they get away with that sort of thing- I'm now a teacher and if we had to have a ridiculously qualified lifeguard with us to even let the kids paddle.

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chequers the whole tenor of the programme was that she applied to buttons, mark warner and just somethingorother nursery, and got jobs with no ref checks and no crb checks at all of them. she also got registered by ofsted as a childminder despite being a 21 year old with no childcare experience, sitting in a friends house which was completely unsuitable for childminding. there was no suggestion that she had applied for any other jobs. in fact she got a friend to apply for mark warner too (no experience etc) and she was employed as well no questions asked.

I don't doubt it is true. There are some awful nurseries out there, but there are some lovely ones too, but obviously not of interest to the bbc.......

I don't think any nursery teachers in our nurseryn are under 21 unless they look very old for their age. I would say they are between 25-55.

cathpot...would these mums have been told you were qualified and experienced?

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I've done enough work with teh BBC to know that if she'd applied to X Y and Z agencies and been rumbled they would have said so, in the interests of fairness.
Just like they did on that programme on nanny agencies a few years ago - the ones who rumbled their fake nannies (and there were only a few) were applauded in the programme (and have been using it in their advertising literature ever since lol)

yes it would be an important fact

obviously though in this case she was pointed to bad nurseries by the ofsted whistleblower, which are the ones she applied to. she wouldn't have needed to apply to 300 to find the bad ones, she was led to them

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