To think this, is how the Tories could win?

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Sunak is setting out his stall as pro-car:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/28/rishi-sunak-expected-to-limit-powers-of-councils-in-england-to-curb-car-use-20mph-speed-limit-traffic-camera-fines

This could actually swing it for him. People sink vast amounts of time and money into their cars, they're aspirational status symbols. The UK loves it's cars.

@DdraigGoch

@user1497207191who do you think has been responsible for public transport cuts? Who has either been Second or First Lord of the Treasury for most of the last 3.5 years?

Well in our village, the cuts happened under Blair/Brown with a local Labour council. Cuts have been happening in public transport for decades. It's insane and very naive to think it's only been happening for the last 3.5 years. Our village lost it's bus service (and library) around 2005 - remind me who was in power back then? It certainly wasn't Rishi!

@TrashedSofa it isn’t as bad as the predictions made out

@Lastchancechica cherry picking bits and pieces there aren’t you. Looks like a sneaky peak of the coming Tory manifesto. Do you work for them ?

The economy is in fact something we don’t speak about enough, but that is a staggering achievement from where we were.

It would be a shame to lose all of this with an incompetent labour government scoring points and returning favours to just stop oil activist donors on the backs of lots of working people simply driving to work.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-economy-grows-02-q2-2023-2023-09-29/

Doesn't say what you want it to say. Copium.

A stronger recovery than first thought tells us that there is something to recover from, which is the problem the Tories as incumbents have, and that official figures have been revised so it's not as bad as initially thought.

It is pie in the sky to imagine that a revision of some official estimates is going to be even noticed by most of the public, much less do anything to tackle the problems the Tories face due to our serious economic issues and cost of living crisis. There is a reason they really collapsed in the polls after Truss and Kwarteng's Budget.

Nope! 😂😂

I am at home ill with covid. Anything to say about the points I made?

No speed limits are not something that wins elections. Doing something about parking tickets might help a little - the tories have been sat on that too long and a lot of people are annoyed by the crooks. Fixing more potholes would help a little, the roads are in a terrible state.

But - however much people might hate it being discussed -a war on woke would get them further. Far too much money being wasted on "diversity and exclusion" training, on sexualising children, the NHS cant fund mastectomies for people with cancer but removes healthy breasts from teenage girls, it's easier for a man who wants to be a woman to get hormone replacement treatment than it is for women who need it.

Whichever government is elected there will be higher taxes for years to foot the bill for covid.

I didn't say anything about 'predictions'. Whose predictions and why do you think they're of relevance to the electorate?

Something to recover from…. Now let’s think - ah the pandemic and the war! Remember those things??

@EasternStandard depends who you read eh ? As with most things, your experience of Tory government depends on where you live and how wealthy you
are. Do you think the tories have done a job ? Re Brexit, education, criminal justice, NHS ?
If you think no one else can do better, god help us.

I agree with all of this

But people post similar lists for Labour without are you working for them jabs

And pp was actually asked so it’s a bit much to blame them when they take the time to answer

Thinking economic tanking and the public response to it is simply a matter of whether we happen to meet the definition of a recession at the moment sounds like a you problem. So no.

I would love to see a positive Labour list?

Anyone?

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@anyolddinosaur how many thousands of transwomen are trying to get mastectomies ? Do you actually think this has caused the main issues in the NHS ? Queues of trans folk trying to get GP appointments preventing hard working families from doing so ?

Presumably your point here is that these two things aren't the fault of the incumbent government. Which is true, and so what? Even leaving aside the Truss budget and the collapse in Tory polling at that time, do you think the electorate find that point persuasive?

😂😂 I don’t run the Bank of England, the treasury or the gov statistics!!!

They are independently produced for every country.

Sorry but we are not in recession and you cant use the tanked economy explanation in your posts accurately.

What does this mean?

I doubt this is the case given revised numbers just recently

You do need to be basing idea of a recession on something.

You are blaming the war and the pandemic on Rishi? 😂

It’s gibberish

Anybody who thinks they have some weird human right to drive a car at 30 or 40mph is just a twat.

Worry about some of the other slightly more pressing issues.

@EasternStandard she obviously has cut and pasted something from Conservative women. Just Clavinova under a different name. Funny that, not seen her for a while.

She just said she wasn’t. You even quoted her.

Whether we are in recession or not matters loads to me actually

I remember the last one! And subsequent decimation of my sector

This is a good start if you want to read up, from pp

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-economy-grows-02-q2-2023-2023-09-29/