To think this, is how the Tories could win?

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Sunak is setting out his stall as pro-car:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/28/rishi-sunak-expected-to-limit-powers-of-councils-in-england-to-curb-car-use-20mph-speed-limit-traffic-camera-fines

This could actually swing it for him. People sink vast amounts of time and money into their cars, they're aspirational status symbols. The UK loves it's cars.

I think what they shall really play with is immigration and the threat of rejoining the EU

i don’t think they will win but Labour need to be in power for two terms to make any real difference

the Tories will be already looking that far head

the Tories will be already looking that far head

They’re not looking as far ahead as next week.

So this is rubbish?
Starm might say HIS commitment to NATO is unshakeable but what about the rest of the party?

Most of whom still support hard left anti war rhetoric:

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/24/labour-mps-drop-backing-for-statement-criticising-nato-after-starmer-warning

I certainly don’t have unshakeable belief that Starmer stands a chance of containing the hard left if he gets into power.

Linking the same article twice doesn't help your argument

What about the Russian support you heard about?

I think it’s evidence enough that current Labour MPS signed petitions to undermine NATO and Ukraine.

What further evidence do we need?

Siding with monstrous Putin is not a cool look when Ukraine are fighting for their lives, being murdered en masse and the Russians committing genocide up and down the land, and you have the sheer audacity to contemplate that these very same people should be running our country???????

It is insanity.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/24/labour-mps-drop-backing-for-statement-criticising-nato-after-starmer-warning

AdamRyan
Did you miss all the furore about BoJo going to a party with a Russian ex-KGB agent, no security cover and against the advice of security issues?

Why did Andy Burnham (who was Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport at the time) support the Russian ex-KGB agent buying the Evening Standard in 2009? Does Andy Burnham still harbour leadership ambitions?

I seem to remember something about George Osborne having something to do with the LES, but I cannot quite remember what.

Ah, I think he was Editor. Also I recall the LES was very supportive around the 'Truss economics' phenomena.

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/politics/conservative-friends-of-russia-group-disbands-with-immediate-effect/

That’s fine. I have no issue with this.

I have issues with current Labour MPs undermining our national security.

Did Andy Burnham attend the party at Alexander Lebedev's vila in 2018?

You have normally been good at posting objective information in the past @Clavinova but this isn't is it?

These messages and attendance are perfectly normal. It is called diplomacy. We try win friends and influence people. That is what Starmer and Khan were probably trying to do.

sally037
Some research has shown that the austerity policies have left the economy much smaller than it could have been

I see that the same think-tank in your link (the NEF) published similar research on the EU here:

Austerity policies in the European Union (EU) since 2009 have contributed to making citizens €3000 a year worse-off, according to research from the New Economics Foundation (NEF) and Finance Watch...

After the 2008 financial crisis, the EU introduced stricter fiscal rules that define limits to government borrowing and spending, in an attempt to reduce the levels of government debt. This included a reinforcement of the rules to bring government deficits under 3% of GDP and debt-to-GDP levels under 60%. EU member states attempted to follow these rules through cuts to public spending and cancelling planned public investment.

https://neweconomics.org/2022/11/austerity-policies-have-made-european-citizens-3000-a-year-worse-off

So austerity is bad for the economy. We know that. How is telling us it failed in the rest of Europe too a defense for it in this country?

BIossomtoes
So austerity is bad for the economy. We know that. How is telling us it failed in the rest of Europe too a defense for it in this country?

You claimed that austerity was not influenced by the EU.

StowOnTheWold
These messages and attendance are perfectly normal. It is called diplomacy. We try win friends and influence people

Is that why Corbyn attended the state banquet for Xi Jinping but not Donald Trump - because he wanted to alienate the US?

@Clavinova Do you actually think the Conservatives deserve another 5 years in power ? Let’s have your own opinions rather than mindless cut and paste. What do you really think seeing as you’re always on these threads and are clearly very invested in supporting the Tories…

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rishi-sunak-tory-conference-iceland-b2421461.html

How on earth will they cope without Iceland?! 😂

Walker has always been a decent guy. The biggest surprise here for me is that he was ever a Conservative supporter in the first place. It’s certainly indicative of the way business sees them now.

I didn’t. I said it was ideological. Which it was.

Err he isn't even an MP ... & the KGB hasn't even been an organisation for many years prior to that... keep up Clavinova!

I don't know. I am still digesting the admission that having realised laws don't work, the government is scrapping the lot.

However, with typical Tory pedantry, they are doing it alphabetically. Which does mean murder will be legal before Taking WithOut Consent. But thems the way the letters break.

Clavinova is still obsessed with Labours total failure during the Suez crisis.

Yes - of course I think the Conservatives deserve another 5 years in power - I expect millions of other voters do as well. Rishi Sunak says 100% of women do not have a penis for a start.

I thought you said only yesterday that you hadn't seen me for a while. Are you always on these threads?

There is a lot of grasping back among Tories.

But TBF, many Labour supporters are still obsessed with Thatcher and Tebbit.