To think this, is how the Tories could win?

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Sunak is setting out his stall as pro-car:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/28/rishi-sunak-expected-to-limit-powers-of-councils-in-england-to-curb-car-use-20mph-speed-limit-traffic-camera-fines

This could actually swing it for him. People sink vast amounts of time and money into their cars, they're aspirational status symbols. The UK loves it's cars.

They’re here.

If you want to avoid economic car crashes you would not consider the Conservatives competent drivers - at least some of them.

Last Autumn our new PM and Chancellor failed their theory test.

The public have very little confidence in Labour.
They don’t trust Labour with our economy, with women’s rights, to support workers ability to drive and earn a living, with brexit. I could go on.

There is a major deficit in trust.

Particularly in Starmer whom is a very weak leader.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/which-political-party-would-be-the-best-at-handling-the-economy

Blossom you spend your whole life on here posting links and graphs no one reads, and no one cares about.

@Lastchancechica to support workers ability to drive and earn a living

What do you mean by that?

Labour crashed the economy last time they were in government. People have just forgotten. They will soon be reminded.

Labour saved the economy by bailing the banks out. You can try and rewrite historical all you like but it doesn’t wash. You’re not the only one who was there.

ULEZ being rolled out under Labour countrywide and ‘charging by the mile’ which is another way they will tax working people.

😂😂😂😂 who paid for that??? Not Labour! Seriously.

You hate facts, don’t you? You’re here all the time posting lies.

If Labour handled the financial meltdown so well why were they voted out???

Answer the question blossom. If Labour managed the disastrous financial meltdown so well why were they kicked out?

They weren’t kicked out. There was no overall majority, remember? Clegg made a disastrous choice in 2010 and backed the wrong side.

The thing to do, which would be difficult to attack by any side, would be to replace IHT on death with CGT. That would be easy to achieve, as one existing Act would merely need a couple of sections added.

CGT is not double-taxation and there would be no real claims that the wealthiest 4% have been removed from tax on capital wealth.

Combine that change with a CGT death exemption based on an index-linked £325,000 exemption and voters would accept it.

I think the only one whitewashing reality is you.

Overspending? Debt to GDP ratio was completely sustainable and barely a third of what it is now, what was it - 37-42% roughly under Blair and Brown - pretty normal for a western economy. Besides, any 'overspending' was necessary after decades of underfunding in public services, do you not remember the state of hospitals, schools and transport in the 80s and 90s? It was more grim then it is now.

Can't believe you think Osbourne steadied the ship, his policies literally took us into recession and made life pretty hard for a lot of people, I was unemployed for 15 months due to austerity. Osbourne was so dim that he based his economic policy on a theory that was put together in Microsoft Excel. Main problem with that is that the academics behind that theory didn't do their formulas properly.

Bizarre you think Starmer is the same person as Blair. They are literally different human beings with different personalities and backgrounds.

Labour didn’t win.
They were kicked out due to financial incompetence.

Are you trying to say they won?????

I notice with interest 33 Tory MPs have claimed they will not support any tax rises in the Autumn Statement although I bet they do.

However, on the off chance they don't and the vote is lost would that class a s a budget failing to pass and trigger a general election ?

Or have we got past the rather childish notion of having to win votes in parliament ? After all as we can see from this thread everyone knows the Tories are right. It's rather insulting our intelligence to ask them to prove it.

Is that a Labour policy or something you 'feel'?

You are very creepy.

It's very bizarre. I find it happens all the time with people that support the Tories in the same way they would support a football team.

Facts, graphs and statictics should be ignored and not cared about? What should we base our vote on then? Just emotion and personalities?

I think if there were a Venn diagram, the cross over between the “send the foreigners back” small boat voters and the “Climate change is is conspiracy” car is king voters would be so big that this won’t bring him many extra votes anyway. That demographic will vote for him anyway. Like they did for brexit and boris.

So blossom are you answering the question or not?

You are saying Labour were not kicked out after the financial crash?

The facts don't support your lies claims, no surprise you don't read rhem

So in blossoms word Labour didn’t lose the last however many elections?!