Russell Brand - everyone knew

[Mooshamoo]

I was watching the comedian Katherine Ryan say to Louis theroux that a British comedian is a sexual perpetrator. It is now believed that she was talking about Russell brand. She said on the video "when it eventually comes out about these type of people, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, this unmentionable British personality, it turns out that everyone knew. Everyone knew. ".

I was wondering did anyone on here on mumsnet know anything about Russell brand? A lot of us lived in London when her was living there. And many women on here would have been a similar age to Russell brand . I lived in London for a year and I saw Russell brand out on a night out once. That was the extent of it. I was wondering did anyone on here have any experience with him, or know about a friend/acquaintance that had any experiences with him.

Don't you think this whole situation is rather too serious to play semantics with?

I said this on another thread so apologies for repeating myself. I know of 2 women he's slept with when working with him (as far as I know with consent).

Just to make it clear this is in no way defending him. I stand very much on the side of the women accusing him. I used to work in TV in the 90s and looking back on it now some of the very normalised behaviour towards women is shocking. I'm amazed there hasn't been a #metoo moment before this.

So legally they are above the age of consent on 12.01am on their 16th birthday.

But as has been discussed, a child above the age of consent can be abused and that is child abuse.

But that's the whole point, its what he gets off on. Getting a reaction from people. He is utterly sick and depraved.

Apparently Katy Perry gave an interview about her split with RB. She said initially she thought she was to blame for their marriage not working. But she's since realised the truth and it (the truth) was being put in a safe place for another time.

Yeah it wasn’t news to me, I’ve seen rumours for ages

It was YOU who said RB’s fans are responsible for his actions because they supported him.

Children who partook in Jim’ll Fix It supported Saville’s career. Are they responsible for his actions?

Its not semantics - you are very clearly laying the blame on what happened to these women at the door of other women.

Alice made her allegations in 2020 and RB's lawyers disputed them. What has happened in the 3 years, between 2020 and 2023 to change things in her legal case?

I did read there are now 4 victims.

He is a really really nasty piece of work and all those of you have supported and encouraged him over the years of his fame are responsible for his actions.

The only person responsible for Brand’s actions is Brand himself. There were clearly people protecting him and facilitating his behaviour, and they are responsible for that but whatever he may or may not have done he’s wholly responsible for.

Her ‘legal case’?

What do you mean? She isn’t suing him

Forget the law for a minute, would anyone be happy to have their young daughter riding him? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Massive risk of disease for one. And the fact that he views women as blow up dolls. Why is anyone defending him?

You are being ridiculous and I'm sure I don't have to spell out what I am saying for the vast number of intelligent posters on this thread. I repeat my claim that anyone who has been a fan or put money in his pocket through purchasing books or tickets shares the blame for allowing this depraved individual to apparently operate with impunity.

Whether he's repugnant or not is not the issue. The issue is can it be proved legally? Is a conviction viable. I fear not.

It seemed to have been well known in some circles, but not the one I was in, or the offending happened later.

I watched the documentary with an open mind (having already seen the video RB put out). I found it upsetting and unfortunately convincing.

It appears he targeted quite vulnerable girls and women.

While investigative journalism is about exposing the truth, from her tweet below, the News Editor of The Sunday Times seems to be very focused on the money. If any case ever gets to court, this would assist with a defence argument that the story is a money-spinning exercise.

Becky Barrow
@beckymbarrow

Sad to see how many people say they resent the paywall to read our Russell Brand investigation. It took 4 years. It took a team of top journalists, editors, lawyers and many more. Investigations are not cheap. But they are v important - and we should all support them.
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I bumped into him at a Katherine Jenkins concert in Audley end and he grabbed my behind when I asked for a photo, I was about 17 at the time. This was at least 10 years ago now and he's weirded me out ever since. So yes I have known for a long time.

Sleazy misogynistic behaviour is unacceptable in anyone but to my mind Brand is far worse than Weinstein. Many women were damaged by HW and have found it hard to get their lives back together after the experience. However, in almost every case, when I listened to the evidence I found myself asking why you had gone into the bathroom with a naked bloke for an interview. No, they didn't ask to be assaulted or humiliated but as far as I recall all of them were well out of their teens and clearly assumed that allowing Weinstein some licence would further their careers. Clearly it got out of hand and we know the result but in these cases I do think women bear some responsibility.
Brand is far worse which makes it even more inexplicable why women went along with it. But he was targeting a much younger age group and I suppose the not wanting to seem uncool factor probably came into it. Brand is a master in the Saville ilk, Weinstein still a student.

Then how is it different for Saville? You seem to be perplexed that I’m suggesting by YOIR logic SavilleMs fans - many of whom were children - have gone the same?

Explain the difference.

Yeah he was working for a US radio company at the time - that little stunt got him sacked

Such a cruel thing to do

What do you mean?

I suspect after Alice was aggressively warned off by that lawyer, she approached Channel 4 and was put in touch with Dispatches and the production company they work with.

The timings fit, as Dispatches started their investigation 3 years ago.

Thank you for this post and very well said. I find the apologists for this man utterly sickening.

@teddyandgypsy Thats why I’m surprised that women fell over themselves to be with him. Maybe my antennae are over developed but I would have warned anyone off! And marrying him? Just going to end in tears!!

Search me. I sit here in wonder at the amount of people taking the view that unless it was rape, it was really all just a bit of laddish behaviour. And you wonder why I think people enabled him.

@MartinChuzzlewit

I don't even know if a case was even opened back then in 2020. Is it ongoing? But it says: Alice "she received a letter from Brand’s lawyer". Back in 2020. So he did have a lawyer.

@teddyandgypsy Tizer was wondering what attracted women to him back then, because as another poster said, he wasn’t THAT famous at the time, he couldn’t make or break people like the foul Weinstein.

Not my personal type, but he was good-looking and he did have charisma in interviews at least. Some people fancied him. 🤷