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A side of a passport or a birth certificate is there any other way of proving eligibility to work in the UK?

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Fuckingfuming1 · 18/09/2023 08:08

I’m obviously just posting here for traffic

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IWD23 · 18/09/2023 08:26

An expired British passport is fine for RTW checks, as long as she still looks like the picture.

Giveituphq · 18/09/2023 08:27

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WombatBombat · 18/09/2023 08:27

I confirm people’s right to work & think we would accept a birth certificate, other photo ID and a parent’s birth certificate to show that they were British.

Fuckingfuming1 · 18/09/2023 08:28

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Yes, the foreign embassy are only excepting photographs being brought down in person so that they can confirm it. Otherwise she would need the photographs countersigning by a citizen from that country which is further early problematic. It’s far easier for her to take those photos down in person, but there’s no appointments till mid October and she is 23 she needs to be working urgently. Not even for the money, particularly but for the experience.

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IWD23 · 18/09/2023 08:26

An expired British passport is fine for RTW checks, as long as she still looks like the picture.

Amazing, thank you so much.

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Littlewhitecat · 18/09/2023 08:29

OP my DD is also British by descent. Any employer should accept an expired British passport as proof. Never ever throw out her old passports.

All those people saying get a British birth certificate have no idea what they are talking about.

MargotBamborough · 18/09/2023 08:30

It sounds like the only proof she has of her British citizenship is her expired passport. Can she not just show the photo of it and explain it's in the process of being renewed?

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Fuckingfuming1 · 18/09/2023 08:31

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That’s not a particularly quick process but no absolutely not

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boromu222 · 18/09/2023 08:32

herewegoagainfriends · 18/09/2023 08:22

No, I’m talking about the foreign birth certificate. The long version should state that the child is British if registered with the British Embassy at the time.

This is nonsense. The child would be most likely registered as british after the issuance of their BC, and in any case any BC I've seen (and I've seen them from many many countries) would have nowhere to indicate that the child is a British citizen. Neither would they care!

Giveituphq · 18/09/2023 08:33

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Fuckingfuming1 · 18/09/2023 08:33

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Yes, and the photos of her on the foreign passport are as a child.

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herewegoagainfriends · 18/09/2023 08:34

boromu222 · 18/09/2023 08:32

This is nonsense. The child would be most likely registered as british after the issuance of their BC, and in any case any BC I've seen (and I've seen them from many many countries) would have nowhere to indicate that the child is a British citizen. Neither would they care!

Well, I’m not posting my own birth certificate online to prove to a bunch of random people that mine says I’m British from birth…

Doesn’t help the OP anyway. It sounds as if her daughter has citizenship of the country where she was born. I don’t.

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CampsieGlamper · 18/09/2023 08:37

Does she have the number of her passport? A lot of employers can put this into a database to verify identity and nationality. Not all, but the better run ones.

MargotBamborough · 18/09/2023 08:39

Fuckingfuming1 · 18/09/2023 08:33

Yes, and the photos of her on the foreign passport are as a child.

Oh for god's sake, so it's not even that her name isn't quite the same on both passports or something like that?

The Passport Office are so tedious about this. If dual citizenship is allowed, which it is, a person's other passports should be none of their business. I'm seriously considering not telling them I have become a citizen of another country when my passport is up for renewal.

BCCoach · 18/09/2023 08:39

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If you are a dual national you have are supposed to send your (fully up to date, correct address etc) foreign passport to the passport office when you renew your British passport. I never have - I don't think the HO even knows I'm a dual national and there's no way I'm entrusting the bloody passport office with both my passports.

BCCoach · 18/09/2023 08:41

MargotBamborough · 18/09/2023 08:39

Oh for god's sake, so it's not even that her name isn't quite the same on both passports or something like that?

The Passport Office are so tedious about this. If dual citizenship is allowed, which it is, a person's other passports should be none of their business. I'm seriously considering not telling them I have become a citizen of another country when my passport is up for renewal.

I've never told them, and certainly never sent my other passport when renewing my British passport. Never had a problem.

Okki · 18/09/2023 08:43

I'm British by descent - my parents are british. I have 2 birth certificates. The one issued in my country of birth and the one issued by the British Consulate when I was registered with them at 2 years old.

I know you can apply for a British birth certificate - you need to register the birth with the GRO. However, I don't know if there is an age limit.

I also had a lot more hoops to jump through at my last passport renewal, so guess they're cracking down.

hedgehoglurker · 18/09/2023 08:44

herewegoagainfriends · 18/09/2023 08:22

No, I’m talking about the foreign birth certificate. The long version should state that the child is British if registered with the British Embassy at the time.

Certainly not standard. In my case, the birth had to be registered locally in the country of birth FIRST, so the baby could not be registered at the embassy until afterwards. It does not state the baby's nationality as British, as it is not in that country's remit to state this on an official document.
Then, the local birth certificate was taken to the British Consulate by the British parent, and a British record of birth overseas was issued.
However, the Birth Certificate is the local one, not the overseas record (which has a similar format to a birth certificate).
As I understand it, these aren't issued anymore though.

Fuckingfuming1 · 18/09/2023 08:45

CampsieGlamper · 18/09/2023 08:37

Does she have the number of her passport? A lot of employers can put this into a database to verify identity and nationality. Not all, but the better run ones.

This was what I was wondering she’s after agency work she needs experience more than money, particularly I think the only thing to do is to get that British passport back off the passport office and then start again in October which means I’ll have to pay for it again, but so be it. I just wanted to check before I pulled the plug.

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ZadocPDederick · 18/09/2023 08:47

Fuckingfuming1 · 18/09/2023 08:11

Yes, she’s British by descendant. I’m British. She’s my daughter, but she wasn’t born in the UK, and she doesn’t physically have a British passport. It’s been with the passport office for 18 weeks now. And of course she can’t work.

Can she produce her birth certificate plus your passport or birth certificate?

ZadocPDederick · 18/09/2023 08:48

Fuckingfuming1 · 18/09/2023 08:21

She’s had a British passport before, they are insisting on the other passport being updated before they will issue a new passport. She can’t get an appointment with the embassy until October, and she can’t work in the meantime.

She is receiving universal credits, and they have no issue with her being British, but obviously she just can’t prove it to employers.

Has she got her previous passport? They would probably accept that till the new one is available.

ProfessorSlocombe · 18/09/2023 08:48

This may be one of the occasions that your MP could help you/DD out.