How bothered are you about Small Boats?

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I think the idea that people think Small Boats with illegal immigrants on them is a really pressing issue is made up by politicians to have something to campaign on. Am I right? Is this a pressing issue as far as you're concerned?

I'm not really talking about immigration/ asylum seekers in general, just the small boats everyone keeps mentioning. If you're worried about people dying in the channel I get that, but do you think people finding their way here illegally is a major issue for our country at the moment?

I think it's clear I don't but I will accept I'm wrong about this being a made up issue if the majority disagree with me.

If you want to vote YABU= this is one of my top ten concerns. YANBU = I don't think it's a top ten issue for the country.

I've always had to show my passport to go to France and to come back as well. I've even had to show a letter for my son from his Dad saying he gave permission for him to leave the country with me as my new married name is different to my son's surname.

Sigh...Let's stop this argument now. All those in favour of allowing boat people into the UK, put your hand up. Good. Now shift your bedrooms around so you can show your compassion by offering one of them a place to stay for a year. We'll done. Form an orderly queue.....🙄

Generally landlords to do leave their properties empty for years at at time, it does not make much business sense.

Where are you actually going to PUT the tens of millions that will arrive with your open borders?

How will you afford the pensions?
The social care, assuming you won’t break the law by discriminating with age/disability? The GP places? School places? The infrastructure needed to deal with the largest influx in history thanks to your open borders?

Answer these questions.

Because unless you are going to offer tents with no pensions, health care and education mathematically it is totally and utterly impossible.

You would create a subset underclass overnight.

How many on here are hosting a refugee or will do I
wonder

Especially from Syria

@jgw1 ?

@EasternStandard To quote @LuwakCoffee "No wonder the Italians have a far right government!"
I was referring to that post.

No one has been able to demonstrate a way of obtaining a visa for a doctor without a SELT. But I am quite happy to learn that it is possible if someone is able to show what alternative English qualifications would be acceptable and obtainable by someone in Afganistan or Syria.

I have not made up that one can travel internationally to and from the UK without showing a visa - the most obvious example being the common travel area on the island of Ireland.

@Lastchancechica The entire UK is not the exact same as where you live. Where I am, there's no issue getting a GP, dentist or school place. We moved areas a few months ago and within weeks had all of the above sorted. No difficulties.

As I assumed, you did take it to mean a free for all, even after I also specifically stated I didn't mean that. So to answer that part - there would be no imaginary massive influx.

Its not made up, its from a careful analysis of the available data.

https://www.actiononemptyhomes.org/news/national-empty-homes-week-2023-sees-call-for-action-on-one-million-homes-nobody-lives-in#:~:text='There%20are%20over%20one%20million,a%20good%20place%20to%20start.

Idk but I definitely think it’s selfish to travel in a boat of all things when people out there need boats

And then talk about second homes

Kind of funny really

The small boats issue affects me not a jot. I don't fear or worry about the people coming across on small boats because I will never meet them and I am wealthy enough to afford everything I need in life. I suspect that's the case for most of the posters on here.

Absolutely. And to evade customs and immigration restrictions as she seems to be admitting. Bet she has a great big house but doesn’t offer any of it to the homeless.

The amount of times that second homes post has been made and then sailing around in a boat 😬

There’s nothing in that article you posted about people owning 12 unoccupied homes. And that article just claims there are unoccupied houses- we don’t know why they are unoccupied.

Best some asylum seekers could live in that boat. But of a cheek to suggest confiscating people’s houses.

She’s not ‘evading customs and immigration’. What she’s doing is completely legal. You are only required to present a passport to a border force officer if required. If you arrive at a port with no border force presence then you don’t need to show a passport because there is no one to show it to. This is hardly news, it’s always been like this. You report your arrival after the fact, either by post or on the sPCR website.

There are hundreds of ports in the U.K., the vast majority have no border force presence at all.

Very first response

And yet no taker by the very concerned boat owners on this thread

Every time I see that second home thing it’ll give me a laugh

Isn't there just one poster who has said she owns a boat? Who else is talking about their boat? Genuinely missed all the other posts from boat owners.

Look on the criteria for a skilled worker visa. There are a whole host of other qualifications that are acceptable. The selt thing is just something you made up.

you claimed you travelled from the uk to Canada (among others) without a passport. Stop making stuff up, honestly, it does you no good.

Yes only one. The one who wants people to give up property

But not theirs

Has someone been stringing everyone along

Yes I believe it’s @jgw1 she apparently uses it to evade immigration and customs laws herself though. Perhaps we should be careful- she may be El Chapo.

The one thing that Sir needs to answer is with his open border policy where exactly is he going to put everyone? He never ever answers the questions on practicalities. Nor does anyone on here.

@Lastchancechica have you got a link to Labours open border policy or a statement ?
It feels a bit like the Conservatives have rather pipped them to the post on that policy given their record breaking immigration figures

The small boats is just a deliberate distraction technique, to distract everyone from the hundreds of thousands of unskilled, uneducated economic migrants that are entering the country by conventional means.